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Subject: [The NetLetter] NetLetter nr 684 Apr 23/02 - The NetLetter
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 684,  Apr 23rd,  2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2300+


Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. Need to know.
We had the following queries, and Industry Travel & Recognition advise us -
(a) With the new charges for security, the regs show that a
stopover of  more than 4 hours domestic will result in additional emplanement
charge of  $12.
I will be travelling YULYYZ cnx to YYZYYJ. Now in order to be sure
of being  in time for the YYJ flight, I plan on getting YULYYZ about 5 hours
before departure in case of problems. Does this really mean that I
will pay $12  twice on that trip as well as the original $12 outgoing? a total

of $36.  plus tax?

YES, THIS IS CORRECT

(b) The other thing that is very difficult to operate is the employee
registration. It is allright for a straightforward journey but  when you
want to make say YULYYZ and YYZYYJ with flights that the computer
does not  show as connections, how do you do it?

THE SYSTEM RETURNS THE LOGICAL CONNECTIONS WHICH ARE BUILT BY RESIII. IF YOU
WANT TO CUSTOMIZE YOU WOULD NEED TO DO YOUR FLIGHT QUERIES A LEG AT A TIME (IE
LIST FOR YULYYZ THEN YYZYYJ ...)

(c) if you have a file and identifier and then you want to
make a  change at any time, it seems the only way to do it is to cancel
the whole  file and start again.

YES, THIS IS HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

(c) On standby during the changing of flights, what happens if the
standbyis unable to board the connecting, and more than four hours
now elapses (at no fault of the standby)

THIS REMAINS TO BE SEEN. IN THE PAST THERE HAS BEEN SOME FLEXIBILITY
IN THIS SITUATION, HOWEVER, IF AC HAS TO PAY THE TAX THEN IT WOULD BE
EXPECTED THAT THE CHARGE WILL BE PASSED TO THE RETIREE/EMPLOYEE.

Employee Travel and Recognition wants you to know that:

The changes were not designed to punish
employees. In fact, active and  retired employees who abuse travel privileges
are handled on an individual  basis. Last year, over 600 incidents of misuse
were recorded and investigated. Resolving them is costly, time-consuming and
impacts
negatively on all of us.
By providing friends and family with partner
passes, employees and retirees contribute to the congestion at airports and add
pressure on our frontline
colleagues and the operation.
The liberal 2001 unaccompanied Partner Program
actually resulted in revenue  loss for the Company. If only one out of ten
partners bought an excursion fare, the revenue would exceed that generated by
the Partner Program.
Air Canada is investing several millions of dollars
to automate employee travel processes. This automation will allow the Company
to consider the reintroduction of limited unaccompanied partner travel such as
non-dependent children and designated partners.

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. News for the Pionair districts -
Subject: Saville Hambleton
To whom it may concern
For nomination purposes the address and tel. number of Saville Hambleton
is
1657 BARRET DRIVE
SIDNEY, BC V8L 4Z1
TEL: (250) 656-3757
FRASER O'SHAUGHNESSY

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. By the way -
Sent in by Tom Martin -
If readers didn't see a recent article out of Southam Newspapers date lined
Ottawa I thought part of it might be worth sharing. A third report by Debra
Ward federally appointed Independent Transport Observer of Airline
Restructuring said "Air Canada is still on its feet but is deeply wounded...it
casts a huge shadow both because of its current dominance, but also because it
isn't just any airline: its Air Canada and it once belonged to all of us. I
doesn't any longer of course, but some Canadians think it still does, and
others think it should again. The reality is that it is a business, like any
other, not a tool of social or economic policy" I hope our critics and
especially the Federal Government pay attention to the last part of her
comments. Tom Martin

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. In NetLetter nr 683, we added a short bio for Jim Morgan.
The bio came from a 3rd party, and Jim has sent this more accurate one -
Nice to receive your recent netletter and to get the plug for our new Niagara
Peninsula Coffee Group. However I have to correct a couple of inaccuracies in
my personal profile. I joined T.C.A. in 1963 and initially worked in telephone
sales at 130 Bloor St. Toronto. Later I was appointed Charter Sales Assistant.
In 1970 I transferred to Windsor as a Passenger Sales Rep initially covering
the Windsor/ Essex county area and later the Michigan area. In 1977 I returned
to Toronto as a Commercial Sales Rep following one of our famous re-orgs. In
1980 I accepted the position of Manager Niagara Peninsula and Western New York
based in St. Catharines with responsibilities for a new two person Ticket
Office as well as some 350 Travel Agents in the Peninsula and Upstate New York.
For the record I was never in Cargo Sales but I did get some additional
experience during a couple of strikes first as a baggage handler in the bowels
of Terminal Two and later as an In- Charge on a D.C. 9 during a Flight
Attendants strike.  Best regards . Jim

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. Lois Cadman sends this information -
The Pilot Crew Scheduling Department of Air Canada is offering an aerial
sight-seeing tour of the Island of Montreal aboard CF-TCC, Air Canada's
vintage Lockheed L10A aircraft. The flights will depart Montreal from the
Air Canada Maintenance Base, Cote Vertu Road West, on Friday, May 31st and
Saturday June 1st. There are four flights per day and the aircraft seats
nine people. The cost per seat is $100.00 for a 45 minute flight over the
Island.
The proceeds from these flights will go to the Starlight Children's
Foundation Canada, a non-profit organization whose mandate is to grant wishes
to critically, chronically and terminally ill children. If you would like to
book a seat aboard this vintage aircraft, please contact Lois Cadman at
514-694-0276, or Glenn Day at 514-422-6201. Income tax receipts will be
provided.

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. Found by our chief pilot - Vesta -
CANADA 3000 HOLIDAY CUSTOMERS GET THEIR REFUNDS
Many passengers who paid for flights and vacations with Canada 3000
Holidays will be receiving refunds soon.
CANJET TO FLY AGAIN
A former competitor in Canada's air wars is gearing up to return to the
skies. But the exact details won't be known for a month.
BOOK CALLS BILLY BISHOP RECORD A FLIGHT OF FANTASY
Billy Bishop may have gone to war, but a new book says he faked most of
his wartime exploits.

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. Remember when!
From the November 1946 issue of Between Ourselves, which had been saved all
these years by Reg Watkins, and sent  to us by Jim Pearce,
September 1946 traffic - Passengers 32,798.  Mail  93,850 ton miles.
Both passenger and mail traffic declined
slightly  in
September, due largely to the shorter
month.
The North Star tries distance - by Captain R.J.Baker. (editted!)
On September 14th, the North Star left home for the first time on an
experimental long  range flight to California. Actually, it was the first time
the North Star had been away from its home airport of Cartierville, outside of
landing once at Dorval to check some of our new service stands, its wheels had
never touched any other runways.
This first cross-country flight was planned to give the North Star its first
long range test flight with the object of obtaining performance data and to
show the DC-4M to Canada at large and the Douglas Aircraft Corporation at Santa
Monica.
We planned to fly from Montreal to Vancouver in the one day with stops at
Toronto, Fort William, Winnipeg and Lethbridge, so our departure was set for
7:30 am on Saturday, September 14th. A total of 13 passengers and crew were on
board when the engines were started. A great deal depended on this flight and
the aviation industry throughout the world was looking on with interest,
particularly our own Trans-Canada Air Lines personnel - for this proto-type was
the forerunner of our airplane, conceived by TCA and to be serviced and flown
by TCA.
(Crew consisted of Captain R.J.Baker, W.L.Harris and Jack Hood, flight
engineers and Bev Foggo, Steward. the registration was CF-TEN-X - eds)

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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -
Air China may become a member of the Star Alliance according to reports from
Germany. The chief executives of the Star Alliance's 15 airlines will be
meeting in Shanghai next month for their annual meeting. China is expected to
be the world's biggest travel market by the end of the decade.

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. Air Canada news -
Arrangements were made to store up to eight B767-200, 14 B737-200 and 17
DC9
aircraft at Avtel Services, in the Mojave Desert in California.
Prior to storage, the aircraft logo and lettering are covered, emergency
equipment
and coffee makers are removed, and water and waste are drained.
How long they remain stored will depend on the economic climate and the
possible
sale of some aircraft, such as the DC9s.
By the end of December, the mainline fleet count had dropped from 245
just prior
to Sept. 11 to 230. This included taking delivery of aircraft under
previous
agreements.

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. Terry's travel tips.
A Great Caribbean Special - see below:
Seven Night Cruise on:
Carnival's Sensation from Tampa on Sundays:
INTERLINE RATES:
April 21: $160 (better inside)
April 28: $190 (outside)
May 5: $260 (better inside)
May 12: $260 (better inside)
May 19: $260 (better inside)
May 26: $310 (outside)
June 2: $360 (outside)
RATES FOR FRIENDS ON THEIR OWN:
April 21: $160
April 28: $190
May 5: $260
May 12: $290
May 19: $290
May 26: $435
June 2: $465
visit: Grand Cayman, Playa del Carmen/Cozumel, New Orleans
(plus port charges & taxes of $168.28 pp)
Alaska on Carnival Cruises new Spirit:
May 22 - 7 nights from Vancouver to Anchorage
May 29 - 7 nights Anchorage to Vancouver
(these dates only)
$255 for 'run of ship' (open to friends on own)
$380 for a balcony ($630 for friends on own)
OR: take it both ways - that is what I would do.
port & taxes $249.24/$247.49
THIS IS NOT A MISPRINT - BUT YOU MUST BOOK NOW
Usual terms & conditions apply, including all rates are per person
based upon double occupancy in USA funds, port charges & taxes are
extra, unless stated otherwise.
Prices are NOT guaranteed to last, and can and do change (upward)
fast and without notice. Your price is guaranteed once you book.
JAMES F. C. ROSE - YOUR Cruise Expert
information: (204) 889-3885
fax: (204) 889-3885
reservations: (204) 889-3885 & (800) 414-8091

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Smilies.
Gordon Dalziel sends this -
It was mealtime on a small airline and the flight attendant
asked the passenger if he would like dinner.
"What are my choices?" he asked.
She replied, "Yes or No."

"Airplanes Versus Women"
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Airplanes can kill you quickly; a woman takes her time.
Airplanes can be turned on by a flick of a switch.
Airplanes don't get mad if you touch and go.
Airplanes don't object to a preflight inspection.
Airplanes come with manuals to explain their operation.
Airplanes have strict weight and balance limits.
Airplanes can be flown any time of the month.
Airplanes don't come with in-laws.
Airplanes don't care about how many other airplanes
you have flown before.
Airplanes and pilots both arrive at the same time.
Airplanes don't mind if you like to look at other airplanes.
Airplanes don't mind if you buy airplane magazines.
Airplanes expect to be tied down.
Airplanes don't comment on your piloting skills.
Airplanes don't whine unless something is really wrong.
However, when airplanes go quiet, just like women, it's a bad thing

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