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Subject: [The NetLetter] NetLetter nr 725spcl Oct 8/02 - The NetLetter
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 725spcl - Oct 8th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
The following information was sent to those Pionairs on their email list -
The following are some concerns that have been brought to the Pionairs
attention with answers from Industry Travel that might be on interest to some
of you. If you have any questions regarding pass travel we ask you to contact
your Pionair District Director for clarification rather then going directly to
The Pionairs are receiving excellent support from Industry Travel, clarifying
rules, procedures, etc. and the Pionairs plan to use the mail list to keep our
I phoned the Air Canada line l 800 413 1113 and was inquiring about a
flight YZ to Rome for the Italy trip in September. As on the website
yahoo.ca Air Canada is listed as flying to Rome then but not on the
employee website. The person told me that Alitalia code shares
with Air Canada and that widows/widowers are allowed to book on the seats
allocated to Air Canada on the Alitalia aircraft - as our priority C2/Y10.
Question What airlines does this apply to? Sounds like good news for
Widows. Have not heard anything about this prior to this date.
Date Mon, 08 Jul 2002 132543 -0400
Subject Re Industry Travel Queries
My name is Agnes Wielogorska and I am Bob Petryk's assistant. I will do my best
in responding on Bob's behalf.
To answer your first question, this code share agreement that was made
previously with Canadian Airlines and Alitalia is a very special one and does
not apply with any other airline. The reason why this was permitted was because
Air Canada has purchased a block of seats on Alitalia and are considered AC
seats - therefore OK for widows. Let's say the seats are full, people would
need to purchase a Zed fare and widows/widowers cannot purchase Zed fare as
they are not entitled to Zed fares.
There is no other agreement that is similar to this and this will probably
My young brother died suddenly this AM,( an aneurysm, otherwise
healthy at 71) .
Is there any movement afoot to enable retirees to obtain
"Compassionate passes" in such circumstances? The last time I
brought the subject up, I was informed that it was for "actives only"
because they are under the time restraints of having to get back to work."
I think we should be eligible, as well, because we retirees are under
the same "time restraints" when it comes to a family crisis. Getting
back home could be an ordinary priority, but getting to a family's city
is certainly time restricted to the same extent for active and retiree
Regretfully, our Policy has not changed at this point - only active
employees are entitled to A1/J10.
As you are probably aware Jazz stopped operating to & from Comox &
Campbell River return to Yvr, and the traffic is now handled by Pacific
Coastal Airways & carrying the Air Canada passengers to yvr & onward
connx. Retirees & Employees using this route now have to apply for a Z
Fare which costs $13.00 US each way plus $12.00 Cdn. each way for Security
charges & if planning an onward trip out of Yvr a further Security charge
of $12.00 each way is charged. This additional security charge can be
refunded by sending copies of all travel docs to Winnipeg for an eventual
refund. Apart from costing quite a bit more than before its pretty
inconvenient. Travel from Nanaimo to Yvr is still available via Jazz but
that is a minimum trip of 125/130 kms each way for anyone living in the
north part of Van Island . I wonder if you could ask Bob Petryk if the Company
would consider approaching Pacific Coastal to allow us to use our passes on the
usual standby basis , it certainly would be appreciated.
Date Fri, 19 Jul 2002 093526 -0400
Subject Re Pass travel YQQ/YVR, etc.
Unfortunately Pacific Coastal will remain as a ZED fare arrangement - our route
network around the world is subject to change with new cities being added while
other routes are removed.
We can expect other cities and destinations to change in the future.
I read Netletter 711 dated Aug 10 with interest and in particular the
information from Employee Travel on the above charge. This would indicate to
me that on a domestic routing YVR-YYZ (stopover i.e. more than 4
hours)-YYZYHZ-YHZYVR that one would be assessed charges as follows YVRYYZ -
$12.00 YYZYHZ - $12.00 YHZYVR - $12.00 Total $36.00.
It was my understanding that AC were only collecting $24.00 on a domestic
round trip routing regardless of the number of stopovers/connections at an
Date Mon, 12 Aug 2002 090345 -0400
Subject Re Air Travel Security Charge - Stopover/Connection
The security tax will assessed on a one way trip basis and not by the number of
stops - i.e. YVR - YYZ - YHZ would result in a $12.00 security tax - the return
journey YHZ - YVR would be another $12.00
If you stop in a connecting city and stay overnight you may be charged for any
I've been asked what the official passholder checked baggage policy is
Apparently some passholders have been told their checked baggage is only
boarded on the aircraft if the passholder gets on. Others are told it is
checked through to their domestic destination whether or not they get on
the flight. Yet others are told that it will be checked to the next airport
the flight stops at and will have to be checked in again for the next leg.
Could you tell me what the correct procedure for checking passholders
baggage is at the present time within Canada? I know it is only boarded if
the passholder is boarded on out of country flights.
Date Fri, 23 Aug 2002 173245 -0400
Subject Re Domestic Baggage Policy
There is general confusion on this issue - as it depends on where and who is
travelling. It is also important to note that current regulations can change
and have changed at least once since Sept 11 without notice.
Active Employees may have their bags checked through - this does not apply to
retirees and or partner / guests of employees / parents - their bags are placed
on standby pending assignment of a seat.
Many agents put everyone's bag's on standby - and I'm sure you will find some
cases where retiree bags are sent through.
Bottom line - employees and retirees should be prepared to have your bags on
standby and checked only to the next station - alternatively many employees and
retirees are resorting to using cabin luggage only.
We will ask airports to put a clarification note out to our check in agents.
Once again the former Canadian Airline "60-70 Retirees" are left out in the
cold without access to speech recognition, the employee website or a single
mention in your extensive 2003 overhaul of the travel system. Why?
Date Thu, 26 Sep 2002 165824 -0400
Subject Re [Pionair News] New 2003 Employee Travel Information
The factors 60/70 are not 'left' out at all. They will, indeed have
access to the system. They will be issued a PIN number to use and will have
a people soft profile created. The communication did advise about all
non-self ticketing employees, retirees and former employees.
Although non-dependent children can now travel unaccompanied using Partner
Passes, their spouses and children still can not. For those with married
children living far way, this means having to take two round trips to fetch and
return their children’s families if they are to visit us. If we don’t do this,
we will never see our grandchildren, and they will never see us, in our homes.
Worse, those retirees who are too old or infirm to travel are unlikely to see
their grandchildren at all.
Initially a decision was made that no partner pass holders could travel
unaccompanied without the employee.
After much lobbying Air Canada made a concession, on a one year trial basis, to
allow non dependent children to travel unaccompanied. While not perfect it
does, at least, enable passholders immediate children to visit the employee,
who might be incapacitated, sick, or unable to travel.
Depending on the one year trial results it is possible that this policy could
be extended to apply to non dependent children's spouses and children, or
From the Netletter:
. Need to know.
Linda Reverchon has sent us this warning -
Subject: Fines for missing travel documents
Thought I'd better pass this warning on to retired colleagues who, for not
being aware of the danger, might find themselves in the same unpleasant
situation as we did.
This is a warning to all travelers who are employees or retirees of Air Canada.
Neglecting to get necessary travel documents before you leave on an Air Canada
flight can be a costly mistake. Not asking for our e-visas at check-in before
leaving on the AC flight for Sydney, Australia, last fall has caused us to be
billed for au$10,000 (ca$8,228) by Employee Travel, and the Company recognizes
no extenuating circumstances.
TRAVELLING OUT OF CANADA:
http://www.fiscalagents.com/rates/tra_ins.shtml is a good website for
Travel Health Insurance Plans
Premiums are based upon a healthy traveller rate for six months (approximately
180 days) rounded to the nearest Canadian dollar. Coverage limits and medical
requirements will vary. Some companies require the completion of a medical
questionaire to determine exact rates. Read contracts carefully and look beyond
price to find coverage best suited to your needs.
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