The NetLetter #1151

The NetLetter
 For Air Canada Retirees
January 29, 2011 - Issue 1151
First Issue published in October 1995!
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In This Issue
CAHS Events
Pionair Events
ACRA Events
Our first 70 years
TCA/Air Canada People Gallery
Alan's Space
Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc
Reader's Feedback
Odds & Ends
Terry's Trivia
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CAHS Upcoming Events - Compiled by Alan Rust
CAHSWe have a listing below of all the CAHS (Canadian Aviation Historical Society) upcoming events that we are aware of.

If you are at all interested in Canadian aviation history, then we encourage you to attend a meeting or visit their web site at: www.cahs.ca

Toronto - February 12, 2011: Alan C. Dares,   B.A, C.T.M, A.T.P.L. will be speaking on "Light Sport Aircraft (LSA's) in Canada" 

Vancouver - February 8, 2011: The February meeting presentation will be a slide presentation by Keith Wade on flying boats and amphibians. For more info call Jerry Vernon at (604) 420-6065

CAHS National Convention

Edmonton - June 22 to 26, 2011 - Mark your calendars for the CAHS 48th annual convention where they will explore the rich aviation history of Edmonton, the province of Alberta, and Canada's North. 

Presentations will range from civil and military aviation topics, to how regional heritage institutions are promoting this fascinating history, to creative ways authors are bringing these subjects to new audiences.


See: www.cahs.ca/events/convention.html for more information as it becomes available.

Pionair Meetings and Events - Compiled by Alan Rust

Pionairs LogoThe Air Canada Pionairs have ongoing Coffee Club Meetings in the following Districts; Vancouver Island, Vancouver, Okanagan, Edmonton, Calgary, Man-Sask, SW Ontario, Central Ontario, Ottawa, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia - P.E.I., Newfoundland, UK - E.C. and the USA - Caribbean. For full information, click here.

Meetings provide an opportunity to meet old friends, learn the latest news regarding Air Canada and your  pensions or hear a variety of guest speakers speaking on topics of interest to retirees.

AGM 2011 VancouverThe 34th Annual General Meeting/Reunion of the Pionairs will be held in Vancouver from April 12 - 14th, 2011. Mark your calendars, more information coming soon.

ACRA Upcoming Events- Compiled by Alan Rust

ACRA  LogoRetirees Welcome!  


Steve Kerwin, organizer for the annual ACRA System Golf Event invites all retirees to the annual ACRA System Golf Tournament, Sunday, September 11 - 15, 2011. For more information see: www.acra.ca  Rates include 4 nights room, golf, dinners, and breakfasts from $326.00 - $400.00 per person.

AGM 2011 VancouverAre you aware of an ACRA Event that is open to retirees? Please use the online form by following this link to submit your ACRA Event. (ACRA Events only please)

Our first 70 years - Compiled by Terry Baker
Trans-Canada Air Lines/Air Canada




- Oct 28th - Suntour lease of DC-8 and DC-9 equipment for tours to Caribbean destinations

- Feb 15th - TriStar service between Toronto - Miami route.

 - April - TransAir takes over the TCA service between Regina and Prince Albert.

TCA/Air Canada People Gallery - Compiled by Terry Baker
TCA/Air Canada LogoMusings from the "Between Ourselves" magazine an Air Canada publication from years gone by.
Issue dated -March 1963
Extracts from "Between Ourselves" magazine -
sellingSELLING CANADA was the job of these three men recently at TCA's booth at the Aberdeen Travel and Holidays Exhibition held in Aberdeen. Shown in front of the display from the left are: Ewan Cameron, Passenger Agent City Ticket Office, Glasgow; Ian Gardner, Sales Representative and Donald McLean, District Sales Manager, Glasgow.

Issue dated - June 1963
yyzterminal A company DC-8 rolls along the runway in front of the new Toronto terminal building scheduled to open in the fall of 1963. The maximum capacity is set at 5 million passengers per year. Its circular design will enable passengers to hop out of their vehicles within 100 foot of the aircraft they are set to board.
combinedTHE COMBINED EFFORTS of employees at the Telecommunications Laboratory along with Sales resulted in the successful opening of the Company's new automatic flight announcement system at Montreal International Airport. From the left:Marcel Cadieux, Ken Crinkley, George Arena, Jim Parker, John Doney, Hugh Cummings, Karel Stuut, Bob Jacquin.

Issue dated - November 1st 1972

Gleanings from "Horizons" magazine -


NO MORE GALLEY SLAVES - Changed procedures for cabin crews on DC-8's and Vanguard aircraft allow all flight attendants to spend more time with passengers and reduce walking. Training classes were held recently in connection with the changes in procedures at the Vancouver Maintenance Base and above are some of the cabin crews during a lull in the sessions, First reports back from crews indicate an excellent reaction from both passengers and flight attendants to the new methods  (Sorry but no names - anyone? eds)

cowanWith a little help from his friends, Customer Service Manager Bob Cowan cuts a cake at a reception given by his colleagues at Kennedy International Airport as Bob took his retirement. Pitching in are Margaret Bruno, Susan Deppe, Deidre Roberts, Frances Cooke, Marianne Greene and Terry Dicasa.
baggleyFriends from across the System and CAE Aircraft Ltd., joined local Winnipeggers at a gathering at the Canadian Forces Base in Winnipeg last month to offer their good wishes to three maintenance employees who retired recently. They are, from the left: Bill Baggley, Foreman. Viscount Maintenance: Frank Bednar, A/Foreman, Finishing & Tire Maintenance; and Ben Leah, Manager, Maintenance & Planning, whose combined years of service total 98 years and six months. Shown with them is Sam Purves, Maintenance Superintendent, Viscount, right.
Alan's Space - by Alan Rust
Alan's Space
Alan Rust
1,000th Dash 8/Q-Series Turboprop Celebration
Here is a video by Bombardier celebrating the 1000th Dash 8 and 400th Global aircraft on Friday, November 12, 2010.  It shows a nice time line of the products made at DeHavilland. Submitted to the NetLetter by Tak S.Chiu (thanks Tak)

Click on image below for video...


1,000th Dash 8/Q-Series Turboprop Celebration

Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc. People & Events
- Compiled by Terry Baker
CAIL TailsNews and articles from days gone by gleaned from various publications from C.A.I.L. and it's "ancestry" of contributing airlines.
Issue dated - May 1998
We found this information in the "Canadi>n Flyer" magazine -
hetheringtonJune 2nd non-stop flights between YOW and LHR, also the reintroduction of the "Dayliner" service YYZ-LHR and the "Starliner" service LHR-YYZ.. Maintaining the aircraft at LHR are Daniel Hetherington and Tim McSharry.
lhrsalesOur Sales force in LHR is creating wins, one step at a time. The team includes (from top) Shilla GilL Gary Kershaw, Lucy Moore, Denise Mihell, Maggie Coombe, Tony Powles, Nicky Edmunds. Jenny Ruler, Kim Lord and Gary Cross.
training Number 1 Flight Attendant New Hire Training Program - Held at the YVR Operations Centre. Graduation was April 23rd (1998) and in service the very next day. Here is a photo of some of the attendees. We have no identification for those in the photo, but some of the attendees at the course are: Lisa Marak, Yo Miyazaki, Lapp Chia, Linn Wang, Karuri Boycott, Michiko Blanchett. Lynn Foster, Bambi Nomoto, Yasuko Prior, Camille Tsang.
Reader's Feedback - Compiled by Terry Baker
Reader's Feedback
Every week we ask our readers for their stories or feedback on what they have read here in previous issues. Below is the feedback we have received recently.

Ken Pickford spotted an error and sends us this correction -

One correction to the list of TCA/AC Presidents/CEOs in Issue 1150. The initials of the first President (Hungerford) were S.J, not C.N. He was the President of the Canadian National Railway at the time which is no doubt the origin of that error. TCA was legally a CNR subsidiary for many years. Regards, Ken

In NetLetter nr 1149, under "Terry's trivia and travel tips", we had an article about StarTrips. Peter Dawson made this enquiry.-
I'm not sure what the article is promoting. Is it
www.StarTrips.com, or something called T4T? It sounds like T4T offers better rates than StarTrips, but what is it?


Peter Dawson

We, at the NetLetter, received this explanation from Chris Arbique of StarTrips.com -

"We have a number of clients who wish to participate in StarTrips, only those who offer true Interline discounts are permitted to post their offerings. Time4Travel (T4T) is one of these clients. The offerings they have posted are from "all" of the properties that they are aligned with and these properties are only available to www.StarTrips.com and www.RumRabbit.com members.

Yes, the rates being offered via the Time4Travel portal are in most instances, better than Interline and you won't find this offering on any other Interline website. There are over 20,000 properties in this one portal. This is just one way members to our site's can surf and save. Hope this answers the question

In NetLetter nr 1149,we asked if anyone knew of the nickname for Claude Taylor, and Lionel Musgrove sent this information...
In reference to your Issue # 1149 - I had the privilege of working for Claude Taylor for the best part of my career with Air Canada. You asked if Claude had a nick name? Claude was often called "C.I.T." Many of the other officers during those years were also referred to by their initials. Dave Tennant was known as "DCT". Pierre Jeanniot was known as "PJJ". and the list goes on. I hope this is of some help.

Keep up the good work. Your efforts are very much appreciated.
Lionel Musgrove (Retired)


Pauline James sends us this information - 

Hi there! I was very excited to read this issue and see the note from Janet Carten, who says she was an "old Stew in 1943-44"- It is highly likely that she knew my mother who was also a TCA Stew at the same time based in Montreal, doing the same routes. In fact, my parents met in Moncton where my Dad was a radio operator (or a flight dispatcher - or both!). In later 1945, my mother forgot her watch and didn't have one for her return flight to Montreal, so he loaned his to her. The "rest is history", as they say, and here I am, the proud daughter of former TCA pioneers, Ron James and Trude Lafontaine (later James). Thanks again for another delightful issue of the Netletter - Pauline

We, at the NetLetter, passed the email to Janet who sent this reply -

Thanks for forwarding the e-mail from Pauline James. I have sent her an e-mail telling her that while I did not know her mother I probably knew her father.  Things were so informal in those days all the flight crews knew the ground crews by first name.There was always a warm welcome for us whenever we arrived.  I didn't know her mother as we were flying the same route (just one stew per trip) so would not run into each other as we did occasionally with gals on other flights.  Anyway, I enjoyed hearing from Pauline. Thanks for forwarding her message. 

ReserVec, the most modern system of its kind, goes into full operation. First operation was all direct services to and from New York City on June 17th 1962. Then on the Pacific Coast Vancouver-Seattle-Victoria routes, followed by YVR-YYC and Edmonton-Calgary-Lethbridge routes mid-September.  October TCA began selling space on all even-numbered flights in North America, and by January 1963 all reservations centres were on the ReserVec system. 


Mike Nash sent us this piece of history just as we found the above article from "Between Ourselves" issue March 1963 -

I don't know whether you are familiar with Tracy Kidder's famous book, "Soul of a New Machine" which portrayed the human side of the building of a new computer, but he caught the feel of what it was similarly like working with the then state-of-the-art computer and communications technology with the company in the 1970's. Many of the computer company people who worked on the 'Reservec 2' project from 1969-70 came directly from the Apollo Moon program as its development work was winding down - long hours and interesting camaraderie.  Cheers Mike

Back In The Old Days


A while back I mentioned some of the so-called jokes that flight and ground crews inflicted on each other. In retrospect I suppose that some of these escapades could be seen as being cruel and insensitive which indeed there is no doubt some of the so called practical jokes were. That some of these escapades might even have undermined safety, notwithstanding, most of them were innocent, quite harmless stress relievers and would even pass the test of current political correctness if judged in the context of the aviation cultural standards back in the day. These, then, aside from the well worn request for some junior neophyte whether pilot, mechanic or flight attendant to go get a bucket of prop wash are some of my more gentler recollections of the fun and games indulged in back in the hay days of the late sixties and early seventies. 


The mighty, "North Star" was called by pilots who flew them the, "North Stone", for its somewhat maligned performance short comings. Anyone else who has ever flown in one in any capacity, including even as a passenger, for obvious reasons would call it the, "Noisy Star". It presented a rather unique opportunity to initiate brand new flight attendants. The hydraulic system for the wheels, flaps and brakes included a redundancy or standby system in case the primary system failed and unlike modern airplanes where faults are computer detected and rectified, required the arm-strong method to operate, to wit, a manually operated hand pump. The handle for the pump was located on the cockpit floor and to add mechanical advantage to pump it, had a telescoping handle which, when extended, gave it a length of about four feet so that a  pilot could pump it with out getting out of his seat. You can guess what's coming can't you?


A newbie F/A would be told, usually in cahoots with a conspiring more senior cohort cabin crew member, that when a passenger was seen exiting the washroom she was to go the flight deck, extend the handle which she was told was the toilet flusher, beside the pilot's seat, and pump it once, then collapse the handle, stow it in its original position and return to the cabin. They usually caught on after about the third, "Flush".

Speaking of modern redundancy systems the recent incident of the QUANTAS flight out of Singapore seems to suggest that all modern planes, even the latest whales, have automatic redundancy systems that seem to need of quite a bit of unexpected human intervention to fulfill their design function.

Captain A.N. Onymous

Ed Bakstad sent in this memory -
I was a CPAir/Canadian/Air Canada pilot from '73 to '06. Nothing interesting happened in my career but my father in law Capt Jim Black was written up in the Vancouver Province on Dec. 4, 1953 along with his picture as the first non stop flight from Tokyo to Vancouver flown in a DC-6B.

The CPA officials at that time also believed it to be the longest commercial airlines passenger flight in history. I also have a "cute" picture of my wife Norma Bakstad, nee Black (Capt. Black's daughter) as an Air Canada Abottsford Airshow hostess in '68. She was an Air Canada stewardess (that's what we called them back then) from the mid 60's to the early 70's.

Regards, Ed


Odds & Ends - Compiled by Terry Baker
Odds & EndsSometimes we receive articles and information that just doesn't fit in our other areas. This is where it goes!
vulcan Here we have a copy of the Christmas card received from Ron Munson which depicts the Avro Vulcan presently being restored in the UK.  Check the web site for information - www.vulcantothesky.org
yyxatc Here is a photo of the Toronto air traffic control tower in 1963.


Terry's Trivia and Travel Tips - by Terry Baker
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Celine Carroll
sends us this information -

FYI: I was charged a $25.00 fee to list myself directly with Continental Airlines, I called our pass bureau and nobody seemed to be aware of this fee. Thought I would pass this information on. All listing should be made on the computer at www.flyzed.com.  Ironic when my pass only cost $19.00. Thank you.  Retiree, Celine Carroll


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Here's a deal to visit Israel -

16 - 22 JUN 2011
The Israeli Interline Club is pleased to invite all Interline club members to visit Israel in Summer time. Stay in Jerusalem & Tel Aviv. Visit Masada, Dead Sea, Nazareth, Haifa, Caesarea, Acre & the Sea of Galilee + many other sites.

Rates in US $ Per person in a double: $777.00 Single Supplement: $300.00 Third person in the room: $739.00

Extra night in Tel Aviv: $77.00, Single Room $115.00 BB WACA fee per person: $20.00
1. Three nights' accommodation in a 4* hotel in Tel Aviv.
2. Three nights' accommodation in a 4* hotel in Jerusalem.
3. Four Organized Tour English Speaking Guides (other languages on request).
4. Six Breakfast
5. Four Dinner meals.
Tour does not include:
Lunch beverages, drinks, tips, portage & travel insurance


Full details at www.waca.org

Smileys - Compiled by Terry Baker
As we surf the internet and back issues of airline magazines we regularly find airline related jokes and cartoons. Below is our latest discovery.

Duane Frerichs sends us this cartoon -

Perhaps the Netletter readers would enjoy this







Alan Rust - our co-pilot -sent in this -

Romance Novel

He grasped me firmly but gently just above my elbow and guided me into a room, his room. Then he quietly shut the door and we were alone.

He approached me soundlessly, from behind, and spoke in a low, reassuring voice close to my ear. "Just relax."

Without warning, he reached down and I felt his strong, calloused hands start at my ankles, gently probing, and moving upward along my calves slowly but steadily. My breath caught in my throat. I knew should be afraid, but somehow I didn't care. His touch was so experienced, so sure.

When his hands moved up onto my thighs, I gave a slight shudder, and partly closed my eyes. My pulse was pounding. I felt his knowing fingers caress my abdomen, my ribcage. And then, as he cupped my firm, full breasts in his hands, I inhaled sharply.

Probing, searching, knowing what he wanted, he brought his hands to my shoulders, slid them down my tingling spine and into my panties.

Although I knew nothing about this man, I felt oddly trusting and expectant. This is a man, I thought. A man used to taking charge. A man not used to taking `no' for an answer. A man who would tell me what he wanted. A man who would look into my soul and say ... "Okay, ma'am," said a voice. "All done."

My eyes snapped open and he was standing in front of me, smiling, holding out my purse. "You can board your flight now."

We hope you have enjoyed this issue of the NetLetter, see you next week!

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First published in October, 1995
  • Chief Pilot - Terry Baker, Nanaimo, B.C.
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