The NetLetter #1238

The NetLetter

For Air Canada Retirees
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January 19, 2013 - Issue 1238
First Issue published in October 1995!
(over 5,400 subscribers)
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TCA/Air Canada People Gallery
Alan's Space
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Reader's Feedback
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Welcome to the NetLetter!

We welcome you to allow the NetLetter to be your platform, and opportunity, to relive your history while working for either TCA, AC, CPAir, CAIL, PWA, AirBC, Wardair, etal and share your experiences with us!

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Reader Submitted Photos - Compiled by Terry Baker

Readers PhotosReader Submitted Photos - The photos and information below have been submitted to us by our faithful readers.

Shirlee Schacter has sent us this information and photos: "Central Ontario Pionairs" once again hosted over 250 people at their very popular Christmas Luncheon at Lionhead Golf & Country Club in Brampton, Ontario, on Dec. 5th, 2012. This annual event is always well attended by Members from the District as well as many out-of-town guests who travel from near and far to partake of the sumptuous buffet, camaraderie and a chance to win one of the many Christmas gifts and cash draws. A good time was had by all!" (If anyone wants to have a stab at identities - feel free - eds)

aubinBruce Aubin, who along with the other Pension Committee members, is the watchdog for our AC Pensions.
TCA/Air Canada People Gallery - Compiled by Terry Baker
TCA/Air Canada  LogoBelow we have musings from the "Between Ourselves" and "Horizons" magazine, Air Canada publications from years gone by, as well as various in-house publications.

The NetLetter has been fortunate enough to have our readers donate vintage Trans-Canada Air Lines and Air Canada publications from as far back as 1941 to share with you. These have been scanned and are being prepared for presenting in a special area of the ACFamily Network for archival and genealogy research.

1946 - Nov 30th - Contract with B.O.A.C. to service Liberator aircraft was terminated. The contract was designed to overhaul, maintain and assist in the movement of ferry pilots.

1961 - Dec - Cover page from the 1961 annual report. Lockheed L10A in service Sept. 1st 1937 and the DC-8 Jetliner in service from April 1, 1960. From a painting by TCA aeronautical draftsman.
keller From the 1986 Annual Report we have this photo of Bryce Keller, Sheet Metal Worker in the Company's B-747 hangar at Vancouver International Airport.

interior Extracted from the 1946 annual report -
Interior of the North Star.
Canadair assembly factory at Montreal for North Star aircraft.
Found this in the "Horizons" magazine.
Issue dated April 1986

lhr London's Ranch Hands.
To reinforce its image as the best carrier to Canada, Air Canada, London, England held a series of western style evenings for travel agents. The evenings took the theme of one of Britain's most popular television shows. "The Late Breakfast Show" and featured an audio and visual presentation of Air Canada's services.  

A cabaret with singer Rosemary Squires and comedian Chris Lloyd, a Canadian style ranch breakfast and a chuck-wagon complete with horse. The "breakfast" was served in style by volunteers from Air Canada's reservations staff and passenger agents. They are pictured on board the chuck-wagon.


Front row from left: Jenny Ellison, Jenny Brennan, Janet Davis, Ursula York. Back row, from Left: Hilary Pascoe, Nicki Perrier-Flint, Gerald White and Fiona Chatfield.  

clowns 1 Joanna Saunders gave this account of "London sends in the clowns": When it comes to clowning around for charity, the United Kingdom Passenger Office is hard to beat. The sixth annual London Passenger Office charity event, this year a circus scramble ramble, was a great success thanks to the capable organization committee consisting of Passenger Agents Diane Maloyn, Pat Newman, Peter Parker, Paddy Abbitt, Tom Doggett, Gerald White, Marleine Chamlian and Mandy Huckins.

The circus scramble ramble consisted of a five-mile course through Burnham Beeches with five pub stops on the way. The ramble was open to employees of all airlines, including friends and family members and to anyone with an immense sense of fun. An amount of gbp1,500 was collected.
clowns 2 Senior Passenger Agent Gerald White, seen here, was ready to scramble the course which he took 2.5 hours to complete - perhaps showing escorting two overseas visitors to the hospitality of British pubs may have delayed him. (The 5 pub stops seems like a great incentive. We did not attempt to sort out the names for the clowns - anyone want to take a stab at it - eds)

Alan's Space - by Alan Rust
Alan's SpaceI can't resist the temptation to comment on the above article regarding the clowns. 
One of the more colourful gentlemen that I worked with in YVR Technical Services had a favorite saying when disgruntled with management (which was often). He used to say "this place is a circus and the clowns are in charge". I always thought it amusing.

Special note: There has been a major announcement in regard to changes in Air Canada Employee and Retiree pass privileges. If you are affected by this, please see "The Daily" from January 15, 2013 or login to the ACAeronet for complete information. Pionair members were also sent notices.

Below we have a video of a "not so perfect landing". I imagine the person taking the video was the pilots wife and her comments are priceless as the landing unfolds. Turn up your sound...
How not to land a Mustang
How not to land a Mustang

Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc. People & Events
- Compiled by Terry Baker
CAIL TailsNews and articles from days gone by gleaned from various publications from C.A.I.L. and its "ancestry" of contributing airlines.
When the DC-10 were introduced in 1979, they were named for Canadian provinces. Fin 901 C-GCPC "Quebec", 902 C-GCPD "British Columbia", 903 C-GCPE "Ontario" 904 C-GCPF "Alberta".

In December 1987, a booklet titled "Meet the Canadians" was issued containing photos of the North American Sales Group. Here we have the tenth page.
Issue dated - May 1970
Items from the "CPAir NEWS" magazine
On April 7th, 1970 and witnessed by hundreds of employees, one of the most dramatic and significant events in the history of CP Air was the opening of the Operations Control Centre in Vancouver.

HONORED FOR 25 YEARS SERVICE Employees who celebrate their silver anniversaries with CP Air during 1970 joined President John C. Gilmer and the officers of the company for cocktails and supper at the Hotel Vancouver on April 24th. Their wives accompanied them.


Following the pin presentation, Mr. Gilmer and stewardess Diane Peterson posed with the newest members of the Quarter Century Club for this photo.


They are, from left: Andy Wisdahl, at 65, oldest of the group; Ralph Miller, Ray Nelles, Bill McCloy, Camille Drolet who traveled the farthest for supper from Rome, Mr Gilmer, Lyle Langpap from Toronto, Diane Peterson, Joe Ferris, Vic Kern, Gunnard Falk, Bob Martin and Ken Cooper from Kelowna, B C. At 41, youngest of the club, Raymonde Queilelle and Cy Charter were unable to attend.

Issue dated - August 1978

training page 2 The first ever initial flight attendant training course conducted in Toronto has now 12 graduates operating on the line. At the course's conclusion on Friday, June 30, three went from having this graduation photo taken to Toronto Airport to work their first official flight. In-Flight Supervisor Janet Simmons, Toronto and Yvonne Wiley of Training, Vancouver conducted the course.


Now flying with spirit are, back  from left: Eligenia Venchiarlitti, Leigh Badgley, Richard Lee, Nancy Kaiser and Melody Renfrew. Front: Lynn Coslett, Elen Douglas, Carol Boddy, Janice Kwak and Colleen Smalley.

Reader's Feedback - Compiled by Terry Baker
Reader's Feedback
Every week we ask our readers for their stories or feedback on what they have read here in previous issues. Below is the feedback we have received recently.

Remembering the good old days, by Andy St-Laurent 1953-1988 (retired): I worked overseas flights on the North Star as a Purser in 1954, also worked flights on the Super Constellation as well as the DC 8's. Here are a few examples of the duration of flying times in "The good old days."

NORTH STAR - April 4th, 1954: Dorval-Gander 4.25, Gander-Shannon   9.15, Shannon-London 1.50. April 7th, 1954: London-Prestwick 1.45, Prestwick-Keflavik 4.00, Keflavik-Gander 9.15, Gander-Dorval 7.05.


Total duty day for the westbound flight including stops was 24 hrs and .30 minutes. Fortunately the North Star was equipped with 2 bunk beds in the cockpit and everyone used them to get some rest. I also used to shave and change my shirt prior to arriving in YUL so I could look fresh.

The flight leg between Gander & Dorval, April 7th was that long because of severe headwinds.

Here is a comparison of flying times between the North Star and the Super Connie: SUPER CONSTELLATION June 1st, 1967: Dorval-Gander 3.30, Gander-Prestwick 7.30, Prestwick-London 2.00. June 3rd, 1967: London-Dorval 14.15.

DC-8 Flying times for the DC 8 for a return trip from Dorval to Zurich was as follows: February 23rd, 1962: Dorval-Shannon-Paris-Zurich   13.00 hours, Zurich-Paris-Dorval 14.15 hours.

Thought the readers would enjoy reading those stats.

Happy New Year to all Retirees. 

Jim Griffith sends us this memory: As a former Air Canada pilot, I particularly enjoyed the National Film Board's documentary film clip about TCA/AC's inauguration of the Viscount. I was a kid in Winnipeg at the time, so I remember the Viscount very well. We lived about 3 miles from the airport, but on winter nights when the temperate was in the -30F range, it was so cold if you went out side you could hear houses cracking as the wood and concrete expanded and or contacted with the cold and the whining and whining of the Darts being run up or whatever it was they were doing to them in the middle of night carried clearly for many miles in the frigid air.


When the weather was that cold, extraneous traffic and other noises were non existent because most people stayed indoors and my brother and I would often wake up in the middle of the night from the noise even in our basement room. Neither one of us at the time could have imagined that one day we would both end up flying the things.

But I found it more interesting for another reason. During the clip it shows a TCA North Star Captain getting a weather briefing from a forecaster. As it happens it was Captain John Clarke, my CO in the 177 TCA Air Cadet Squadron, who was my mentor and probably the reason I became an airline pilot. He was killed a year after the film was taken when his North Star flew into the top of Mount Slesse in The Canadian Rockies on a flight from Vancouver to Calgary.


(Photo of John Clarke below, click on photo for documentary)


Routine Flight 


At the time it was Canada's most deadly air crash. It was surrounded by mystery partly because the wreckage wasn't found for 5 months after the crash and no definite cause was ever established. In fact I thought the film was more about the Winnipeg engine overhaul shop and the Merlin engine than the title suggested. In any case, it provided in-sight for a friend of mine who is writing a book on the crash. Jim Griffith

memorial (Flight 810  CF-TFD  "Selkirk" fin #204  c/n 128 - eds)


Terry's Trivia and Travel Tips - by Terry Baker

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Smileys - Compiled by Terry Baker
As we surf the internet and back issues of airline magazines we regularly find airline related jokes and cartoons. Below is our latest discovery.

This cartoon by D Fallwell YXT appeared in the "Blue Skies", a CPAir magazine issued April 1979.   



 Alan Evans in South Africa sends this: A man wrote a letter to a small hotel in a Midwest town he planned to visit on his vacation. He wrote: "I would very much like to bring my dog with me. He is well-groomed and very well behaved. Would you be willing to permit me to keep him in my room with me at night?"

An immediate reply came from the hotel owner, who wrote: "SIR: I've been operating this hotel for many years. In all that time, I've never had a dog steal towels, bedclothes, silverware or pictures off the walls. I've never had to evict a dog in the middle of the night for being drunk and disorderly. And I've never had a dog run out on a hotel bill. Yes, indeed, your dog is welcome at my hotel. And, if your dog will vouch for you, you're welcome to stay here, too."


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E&OE - (errors and omissions excepted) - The historical information as well as any other information provided here is subject to correction and may have changed over time. We do publish corrections when they are brought to our attention.
First published in October, 1995
  • Chief Pilot - Terry Baker, Nanaimo, B.C.
  • Co-pilot - Alan Rust, Surrey, B.C.
  • Flight Engineer - Bill Rowsell, Londesboro, Ontario 
  • Stewardess - Lisa Ruck, Brooklin, Ontario 
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