The NetLetter #1264

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July 22, 2013 - Issue 1264
First Issue published in October 1995!
(over 5,400 subscribers)
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Air Canada News
Upcoming Events
TCA/Air Canada People Gallery
Alan's Space
Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc
Reader's Feedback
Odds and Ends
Terry's Trivia
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Terry Baker
Welcome to the NetLetter!

We welcome you to allow the NetLetter to be your platform, and opportunity to relive your history while working for either TCA, AC, CPAir, CAIL, PWA, AirBC, Wardair, etal and share your experiences with us!

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Terry Baker and the NetLetter Team

Air Canada News
Air CanadaAir Canada announced it will commence scheduled service to Red Deer, Alberta on September 3, 2013 with three daily flights from Red Deer Airport to Calgary. Flights will be operated by Air Georgian under the Air Canada Express brand, using 18-seat Beechcraft 1900D aircraft.

Upcoming Events - Compiled by Terry Baker
Don't forget the 10th Annual Dreams Take Flight Golf Tournament on August 28th, 2013 at the Royal Ontario Golf Club. To join please contact: Josie Canning (905) 457-1847 or email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

The upcoming Gold Tournament is in support of the big 25th Dreams Take Flight to Disney in May 2014. As we may be able to have 2 planes, we need to raise that much more money to send twice as many special needs children to Disney, Florida.

Such a trip is a life changing experience for so many of the children we take. And there are already enough children whose names have already been submitted to fill the next plane!!!  

TCA/Air Canada People Gallery - Compiled by Terry Baker
TCA/Air Canada  LogoBelow we have musings from the "Between Ourselves" and "Horizons" magazine, Air Canada publications from years gone by, as well as various in-house publications.

The NetLetter has been fortunate enough to have our readers donate vintage Trans-Canada Air Lines and Air Canada publications from as far back as 1941 to share with you. These have been scanned and are being prepared for presenting in a special area of the ACFamily Network for archival and genealogy research.

Historical highlights.
1948 -  April 15th -  Pennfield Ridge, formerly an RAF training unit, began its career in TCA. Rapidly, with eager hands applied, our station took its place beside other line-stations. It became an intermediate station for Montreal, Yarmouth, Halifax and Boston.

Issue dated - July 1977
Some items gleaned from the "Horizons" magazines.
Hoisting the flag
Only a few sharp eyed press representatives at London Airport (LHR) noticed that the Royal Standard atop the B747 carrying HRH Prince Charles to Canada was moving a bit. In the photo, Toronto Flight Attendant Susile Law is doing her thing for the Royal occasion by straddling the seats of the Captain and First Officer to poke the flag through the crew escape hatch.


Under the banner of "Sea Wing reborn" was the story about the company taking another stab at readdressing the air cargo imbalance on westbound domestic and transborder services by implementing an Air Canada controlled Sea Wing service which commenced August 1st 1977. Fashioned on the service operating out of the west coast which started in 1971 and dubbed "Flying Fish".

Airport Passenger Agents go Western during the Calgary Stampede, July 7-16. Shown in their attire for the occasion are, back row, from the left: Jan Szuch, Liz Murdoch, Debbie Becker and Mary Balfour. In front are Karen Pawliuk, left, and Lynn Tiessen.

Stews of '62 wax nostalgic
Flight attendants from the Class of '62 came from far and wide to attend their 15 year reunion held at the Cara Inn in Toronto.
Organized by Toronto Flight Attendant Margaret Pascoe, the event drew 35 graduates from that year's training classes. Of those pictured, the following were flying or performing other jobs for the company.

Front row, from the right: Janice Stonehouse, Vancouver; Margaret Louise Neagle, Sandy Millroy and Liz Tothe, Toronto and seventh from the right, Brenda Parker, now Operational Supervisor, Toronto. Back row, from the right: Barb Willies, Toronto; Sonia Grant, now Secretary in Computer & Systems Service, Montreal; eighth from the right is Beryl Shaw, Toronto and far left is Mavis Walker, now Passenger Agent, Toronto.

Missing from the photo is Hannah Grauduschus, now Operational Supervisor, Toronto.

The group celebrated its tenth anniversary in 1972, a 20-year reunion is planned and the class is hoping for a gala event on the occasion of its 25th anniversary which will occur on the company's 50th birthday in 1987. The 15th reunion was the best yet thanks to the much appreciated efforts of Margaret Pascoe.

(The NetLetter checked the "Horizons" for 1982 and 1987 but were unable to locate any information or photo of the 20th or 25th anniversary reunion, if, in fact the reunions took place - eds)

Issue dated - January 1948
Some items gleaned from the "Between Ourselves" magazines.

With the recent introduction of the revised staff travel privileges, we thought this reminder of the privileges for 1948. would indicate how the rules have changed - for the better!

Alan's Space - by Alan Rust
Alan's Space
Gimli Glider back in the news! 

Tomorrow (July 23, 2013) marks the 30 year Anniversary of one of the strangest incidents in aviation history. 

The Gimli Glider is the nickname of an Air Canada aircraft that was involved in an unusual aviation incident. On 23 July 1983, Air Canada Flight 143, a Boeing 767-233 jet, ran out of fuel at an altitude of 41,000 feet (12,000 m) MSL, about halfway through its flight originating in Montreal from Ottawa to Edmonton. The crew was able to glide the aircraft safely to an emergency landing at Gimli Industrial Park Airport, a former Royal Canadian Air Force base in Gimli, Manitoba.

Brian Walsh (long time NetLetter member and contributor) has advised us that there is a special documentary about the Gimli Glider on tonight (that's July 22, 2013, Monday evening) on the CBC "The National".

If you miss it, you can also view the news online at: The National or clicking on the image below. Please note that you need to look for the small image of the one below on this page and find the proper date (July 22, 2013) as this changes each day. Once it has aired I may be able to provide another link to just that segment next week.

The National 
The National - July 22, 2013
Here's a simulation of 604 side-slipping just before landing. Click image
for large version, quite well done. 
Gimli Glider Side Slipping 
Side Slipping before landing (simulation)
Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc. People & Events
- Compiled by Terry Baker
CAIL TailsNews and articles from days gone by gleaned from various publications from C.A.I.L. and its "ancestry" of contributing airlines.
Issue dated - June 1979
Items from the "CPAir NEWS" magazine -
In the days of ABC's, Apex, GIT's, CBIT's and all the other letters that spell interpretation of fares, this is where it all happens in Toronto res. Tariffs is Derwin Rokeby-Thomas, Gerard Cosgrove, Dave Marriott, Heidi Schweichier and Dorothy Harraher.They get valuable guidance from regional tariff manager Pierre Cos.

Toronto's expanded CPAir operations centre was proficiently cared for by a team here represented by building maintenance mechanic Carlo Cialone, sub foreman Garry Gill and foreman Ron Johnson.

Public affairs with an international touch and market planning are well represented in Toronto with Dennis Fletcher, left, joining CP Air's man-in-Ottawa and senior executive officer in eastern Canada Glenn Hunnings, assistant vice-president, public affairs.

These gentlemen are supported by ladies such as Marianne U, in regional tariffs, Debbie Cox, conventions and PR, Marlene Brown, market planning and Mr. Hunnings' most able assistant Priscilla Melkic.

Reader's Feedback - Compiled by Terry Baker
Reader's Feedback
Every week we ask our readers for their stories or feedback on what they have read here in previous issues. Below is the feedback we have received recently.

Referring to NetLetter nr 1263 and to the photo sent in by John Roger,  Dick Hovey suggests these names - Bottom right of photo I believe is Harvey Hutton, Powerplant Superintendent.  Laurie's name is Simenson, also Powerplant.

Dick Hovey

Jack Stephens has fond memories of his first flight - The photo of Jack at 15 months. His first aircraft ride was on the lap of his father Bart Stephens in 1938 at Thunder Bay (Fort William) Flying Club, Ontario.

Photographed by Jack's mother, Margaret Stephens.

Two more comments from Dave Welham which we started in NetLetter nr 1259 - In NetLetter nr 1199 issued April 1st, 2012,  we had an article with this heading - Found in the "Horizons" magazine issued September 1975.

Recently an old factory building outside Edinburgh, Scotland, was demolished. In the office area, workmen found a listing of work rules issued in 1852.

Dave Welham
has sent us these comments - Those 1852 work rules are said to have been "found recently", but 'way back in the late 1960's when I worked for the DND, the same rules circulated about conditions a century earlier. Yes, they really did have to use the garden to "go to the loo".

Found in "Horizons" issued April 1986, we published this photo in NetLetter nr 1238 with the following heading "London's Ranch Hands" and these identities Front row from left: Jenny Ellison, Jenny Brennan, Janet Davis, Ursula York. Back row, from Left: Hilary Pascoe, Nicki Perrier-Flint, Gerald White and Fiona Chatfield.

This is Dave's comment - "London's Ranch Hands": The lady on the right is Ursula Jauch (not York), who used to be an agent at YULAPAC. The German pronunciation of her name does sound a lot like "York", but is more like "Yowkhh". (We publish this corrected photo - eds)

 Roger Emsley sent us this message regarding our use of the term "defunct airlines" - The use of the term "defunct" - even with the disclaimer - is demeaning to the many employees who worked hard to make those airlines a success. Whilst the term may not have originated in your newsletter you would be better off to find another term.
Roger Emsley

(We, at the NetLetter, asked Roger to suggest a term and this was his suggestion - Airline Names From the Past - we will go along with that - eds)

Regarding Airline Names From the Past. Lloyd Glibbery has sent us another airline which has fallen by the wayside. There was also Transair Midwest, I think Midwest was the helicopter division and it was gone by the time PW purchased Transair.
Ken Pickford sent us this - Re the Airline Names From the Past list in NetLetter #1262, I can add one to the list - Ontario Worldair, a Toronto-based charter carrier that lasted about 2 years from 1978 to 1980. Their fleet comprised 2 leased Boeing 707s. After Ontario Worldair shut down one aircraft went to Worldways Canada for a couple of years, the other aircraft previously spent 6 years (1973-79) with Pacific Western Airlines.
Gaetan Courchesne sends this name for the Airline Names From the Past list - How could you forget Gateway Aviation... with the nurse! I am sure I will find more. Did the USA have a similar aviation history or is it a result of all the Canadian politics that we had so many good ones come and go?

Keep up the good work,
Gaetan Courchesne

Odds and Ends.

Image Blank 200pxSometimes we receive articles and information that just doesn't fit in our other areas. This is where it goes!

Jim Miller sends us this information - NORSEMAN BOOK NOW AVAILABLE!
Just to let you know that CANAV's grand new book Aviation in Canada:
The Noorduyn Norseman is now in print. See our blog canavbooks.wordpress.com for all the details, great Norseman photos, etc. 


Here at long last is the first major history of one of Canada's most historic bush-planes - the world-famous Norseman! If you follow Canada's aviation heritage, you'll want this new title. Beginning with design in 1934, first flight and early production, this spectacular new title covers the Norseman's initial use in the bush and Arctic. Then comes its vital WWII role with the RCAF and US Army "at home", in the UK/Europe, down into the South Pacific, etc.  


The wartime work done by Canada's commercial Norseman operators is covered, along with everything from incredible rescues, even the politics, including how Uncle Sam controlled wartime Norseman production. Employment at Noorduyn soars from a handful in 1939 to 11,000 by war's end.  


Next comes the transition to peace, the impact on commercial aviation of surplus Norsemans, introduction of the Norseman V and such rivals as the Beaver and Husky, and final RCAF service. Includes some amazing dramas from a Norseman found safe in the bush after 38 days to stranded scientists rescued in the Antarctic. 


All things considered, you'll revel in this magnificent new production - our 33rd aviation title. Specs: 232 pages, large format, hardcover, 450 photos, appendix, bibliography, index. Each copy $50.00 + $12.00 post (Canada only) + $3.10 tax = $65.10. USA and overseas $50.00 + postage $22.00 = $72.00.  

Order by mail (cheque or money order -- sorry, no plastic). PayPal OK (for PayPal email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.).  


Tell us where to ship your book and mention it, if you'd like author Larry Milberry's autograph on your copy. 


Mailing address: CANAV Books, 51 Balsam Ave.,Toronto ON M4E3B6. Blog www.canavbooks.wordpress.com
Tel. 416-698-7559.  


 (The Dutch designer Bob Noorduyn arrived in Montreal in 1934. His plane, built at Cartierville Airport was christened Norseman and first flew November 14th 1935 - eds)

Terry's Trivia and Travel Tips - by Terry Baker

Terry Baker



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Smileys - Compiled by Terry Baker
As we surf the internet and back issues of airline magazines we regularly find airline related jokes and cartoons. Below is our latest discovery.

Our cartoon by D. Fallwell at YXT, first appeared in "CPAir News" magazine issued December 1977








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First published in October, 1995
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