The NetLetter #958
Since Oct/95 January 20, 2007


Number 958

About us!

Need to know

Hercules Canada Reunion Association

One of the trusted - RAPCAN article

Pacific Operations - appeal for help

Star Alliance News

Found on the Internet

TCA & Forgotten Airports

Interested in Canadian Aviation History?

Terry's Travel Tips


AC Heritage Poster



NetLetter Archives

About us!

Since October 1995, Vesta Stevenson and Terry Baker have been issuing an email newsletter for those ex Air Canada types who have provided us with their email addresses. The Newsletter was created by Vesta, who gave the name 'NetLetter' and added 'Between Ourselves' - a TCA periodical with which you are probably familiar with from the 50's and 60's. It was then changed to "Between Yourselves" to avoid confusion when "Horizons" resurrected the name. Then finally simplified to just "The NetLetter".

We believe that our NetLetter, which originates from Vancouver Island, was the FIRST to use this medium to disperse information for retirees of Air Canada.

The NetLetter contains airline related information such as anecdotes or stories supplied by some of the recipients, Internet tips, travel news, cheap... excuse me, "inexpensive" accommodations, tours, interline travel, and, in some small way, we help keep our Air Canada family together and in touch.

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We now estimate that the NetLetter is read by over 2744 retirees when counting our email distribution and those that print the NetLetter and give them out to their friends. The "NetLetter" is written by Vesta Stevenson and Terry Baker from Vancouver Island (see sidebar) and also with articles and comments from "you" our readers. Formatting of text, photos, etc. for this HTML version is done by Webmaster Alan Rust and it is published courtesy of the ACFamily Network at www.acfamily.net

  • Need to know
  • Vesta

    Air Canada has pulled its summer service from Abbotsford to Toronto, at virtually the same time as the local airport confirmed that, in 2006, it attracted more than 500,000 passengers for the first time. (Source Abbotford News)

  • Hercules Canada Reunion Association
  • Stu Russell sends details of this event -

    Pacific Western Airlines
    HERCULES CANADA REUNION ASSOCIATION Reliving the Excitement - 20 + years later

    Hercules Canada Reunion Association - Hercules Reunion 2007

    Where: Ramada Edmonton Inn - Edmonton, Alberta
    When: Fri 14 Sep 2007 - 1700/2100 - Hospitality Room

    Sat 15 Sep -------- 0700/1000 - Breakfast Buffet
    Sat 15 Sep -------- 1200/1600 - Hospitality Room
    Sat 15 Sep -------- 1700/0100 - Dinner and Dance
    Sun 16 Sep ------- 0800/1100 - Breakfast Buffet

    Price: for $120.00 per person you get:
    1 Fersten Form Fit Reunion 2007 ball cap
    1 Reunion lapel pin.
    2 Breakfast buffets
    2 Open house sessions for slides, photos & beer talk.
    1 Dinner and dance with all wine supplied
    a number of really cool door prizes
    and ....................
    a chance to spend time with your fellow Herc Rats.

    Payment: Mail cheque payable to HCRA before 01 April 2007:

    Hercules Canada Reunion Association
    228 Scenic Glen Place NW
    Calgary, Alberta, T3L 1K3

    Hotel: Special Reunion Room Rate $85.00 Single or Double
    Ramada Reservations Edmonton @ 780-454-5454
    Toll Free Number: @ 800-661-4114
    Quote reference when booking "Hercules Reunion"
    Details: Stu Russell 403-241-9105
    This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

    Note: for more info on the Hercules Aircraft, click the link below.

    More info on the Hercules Aircraft
  • One of the trusted - RAPCAN article
  • This was published in the RAPCAN eMailNews recently issued by Jim Miller -
    RAPCAN thanks Bud Husband from Vancouver Island for sending this fine article.

    One of the Trusted
    You are at cruising altitude. The westering sun is pink on the distant horizon.
    Your eyes flick the gauges.The engines are contented. Another day, another dollar.
    You look down at your hands on the wheel. They are veined and hard and brown.
    Tonight you notice they look a little old. And, by George, they are old. But how can this be?
    Only yesterday you were in flying school. Time is a thief! You have been robbed, and what have you got to show for it?
    A pilot, thirty years a pilot, a senior pilot. But what of it? Just a pilot.

    The voice of the flight attendant breaks in on your reverie.
    The trip is running full;
    Can they begin serving dinner to the passengers?

    The passengers, oh yes, the passengers. You noticed the line of them coming aboard; the businessmen, the young mothers with their children in tow, the old couples, the two priests, the four dogfaces.
    A thousand times you have watched them file aboard, and a thousand times disembark.
    They always seem a little happier after the landing than before the take-off.
    Beyond doubt, they are always somewhat apprehensive aloft.
    But why do they keep coming up here in the dark sky despite their fears?
    You have often wondered about that.

    You look down at your hands again and suddenly it comes to you. They come because they trust you, you, the pilot.
    They turn over their lives and their loved ones and their hopes and their dreams to you for safekeeping. To be a pilot means to be one of the trusted.
    They pray in the storm that you are skillful and strong and wise. To be a pilot is to hold life in your hands, to be worthy of faith.

    No, you have not been robbed. You aren’t “just a pilot”. There is no such thing as “just a pilot”. Your job is a trust. The years have been a trust.
    You have been one of the trusted. Who could be more?


    Note: To find out more about RAPCAN or if you are a Pilot and would like to join, follow the link below.

    RAPCAN - Retired Airline Pilots of Canada
  • Pacific Operations - appeal for help
  • Pacific Operations - appeal for help in NetLetter 957 -

    Note: we were quite impressed with the replies we received and the vast knowledge base available from our NetLetter readers.

    William Cameron sends this information In response to your queries about Pacific operations:

    1. First CPAir international service was Canada Australia, inaugurated on July 13, 1949. The service was operated by Canadair C-4.1 aircraft, initially once every two weeks. Flight was YVR via SFO, thence to HNL for a 36 hour layover (crew rest) thence to Nadi, Fiji (15 hours) for another overnight, thence 9 hours to Sydney.

    2. Auckland was added to the route on December 28, 1951 and suspended on April 24, 1969. Re-instated with jet aircraft on Nov. 1, 1985

    3. North Pacific operations began on September 19, 1949 from YVR, Anchorage, Shemya/Tokyo, Hong Kong. Aircraft was Canadair C-4.1. A route proving flight had been operated on April 19, 1949 - including Shanghai, and was the last commercial aircraft through that airport prior to it's fall to the forces of Mao Tse Tung. The aircraft used on the proving flight was a DC-4-M.1 borrowed from the RCAF

    4. First CPAir scheduled service to the People's Republic of China began on April 29th, 1985 - Vancouver to Shanghai.

    William J. Cameron This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
    Okotoks, AB
    Retired CPAir 1986
    Your co-pilot had already conveyed the above to Dorothy, plus this additional info -
    1949, 10 July
    Commenced by Canadian Pacific Airlines (CPA) using the Canadair C-4 CF-CPI, "Empress of Sydney", the route being Vancouver-Honolulu-Canton Island-Suva- Auckland. A large cachet was applied to mail in Vancouver.
    and more!
    Responding to NetLetter #957 "Urgent Help" regarding North and South Pacific flights.
    from Frank Metzger

    I worked for CP as Regional Airport Manager for Japan/Asia based in Tokyo and retired in 1999. Responding to your help, am familiar with North Pacific more than the South and are as follows:
    * What is our oldest route in the North & South Pacific?<br> * Nopac: Vancouver-Tokyo-Hong Kong - 1949 by Canadian Pacific Airlines.
    * Sopac: Vancouver-Sydney - 1949 by Canadian Pacific Airlines/
    * When did we start flying to Tokyo and Hong Kong?
    * September 18, 1949 - Canadian Pacific Airlines. Once a week from Vancouver at 12:05 a.m. Monday. Number of passenger ­ 40.
    * How long did it take? any stops enroute?
    * Refueling stops ­ Anchorage, Alaska; Shemya in the Aleutians.
    * What type of aircraft was used?
    * Canadair DC-4M “North Star”
    * Fare: Vancouver ­ Tokyo return $1,287.00
    * Fare: Vancouver ­ HongKong $1,437.50
    * Fare: Tokyo ­ HongKong $310.85

    * When did we start flying to SYD
    * 1949 July 13 - Canadian Pacific Airlines departed Vancouver
    * Canadair DC-4M "North Star"
    * Refueling stops: San Francisco, Honolulu (overnight), Canton Island, Fiji (overnight), Sydney
    * 37 hours 18 mins. one way fare $685 with 2 nights at Royal Hawaiian Hotel, HNL and one night in Fiji. (source: Wing Walker by Peter Pigott)
    * YVR-SFO 3:55 hrs. SFO-HNL 10:25. HNL- Canton Island 08:07. Canton Island-Fiji 05:57. Fiji- Sydney 08:33.
    * When did we start flying to Peking?
    * 1972 Aug. 13 CP Air operated charter DC8 flight to Peking. Routing including fueling stops: YVR-HND- HKG-CAN-PEK. Due to no airways between Japan and China, flight had to fly all the way to Hong Kong to enter Chinese mainland.
    * 1986 April 29 Canadian Airlines commenced operation to Shanghai. YVR-SHA
    * When did we, AC, start flying into Japan?
    * 1994 September 24 to Kansai International Airport, KIX.
    * B744-400 combi. YVR-KIX.
    Other information regarding flight operation to Japan after WWII.
    1946 Aug. 1 Northwest Orient Airlines commenced operation to Tokyo, Haneda AP
    1947 Jun. 26 Pan American Airways, Pan Am, operated to Tokyo, Haneda AP
    1948 Mar. 25 BOAC operated to Iwakuni airbase with flying boat.
    1949 Sep. 19 Canadian Pacific Airlines commenced operation to Tokyo, Haneda AP

    Vancouver-Shemya-Haneda-Hong Kong. 33 hours 30 mins.
    1949 Nov. 26 BOAC operated into Tokyo, Haneda AP
    1951 Apr. 27 SAS oeprated into Tokyo, Haneda AP

    from foregoing our operation to Japan was one of the first next to NWA, Pan Am and BOAC.

    Other info:
    In 1950 CPAL hired Chinese stewardesses for Hong Kong flights.

    Franz Metzger This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
    Yokohama, Japan
  • Star Alliance News
  • Star Alliance

    BMI Regional is taking delivery of a further four E-145s in the coming months, raising its fleet to 20 aircraft. The additional capacity will support three new routes: Edinburgh-Zurich, Aberdeen-Kristiansand and Leeds Bradford-Copenhagen. The BMI subsidiary also will increase frequencies on existing services for the summer schedule, including additional flights from EDI to MAN and LBA. (Source: Air Transport World)

  • Found on the Internet
  • British Airways said it will change its baggage policy from Feb. 13 by placing restrictions on the number and size of bags that can be checked and charging customers fixed fees of up to £120 ($232) per excess bag.
    Long-haul economy passengers will be restricted to one checked bag weighing no more than 23 kg. (50 lb.) as well as one piece of sporting equipment, such as a golf bag. Passengers traveling long-haul to select locations, including North America, still will be able to check two bags. First-class passengers will be able to check three 23-kg. pieces at no charge and business-class passengers will be allowed two 23- kg. pieces.
    On short-haul routes, including all domestic flights, economy passengers will be permitted to check just one 23-kg. bag while Club Europe premium customers will be allowed two. On all flights, passengers with infants will be allowed to check "a collapsible baby buggy" in addition to one bag for the young traveler. Under the new rules, domestic passengers checking extra bags will be charged £30 per bag, short-haul travelers will be charged £60 and long-haul £120. Passengers can get discounts of £6-£24 per bag, depending on flight distance, if they pay the excess baggage fees online before coming to the airport.

    British Airways is holding critical talks with representatives of the Transport & General Workers Union following Monday's vote by the union's cabin staff in favor of industrial action that could begin as early Jan. 31.
  • TCA & Forgotten Airports
  • Earlton YXR
    In NetLetter nr 956 we gave some info regarding YXR which prompted the following response to George Brien -
    We had corresponded once some years ago about Yarmouth. Your little note about the service into YXR reminded me about the time I had spent there!
    I worked under Bill Lucas when I was at YXR back in 1957. I was the only Station Agent and there were no Station Attendants. The station stop was 10 minutes. So it was not a fuelling stop, but I had to dip the tanks nontheless. I well remember the routine! Bill would offer some assistance when the flight came in if required. The usual on/off load would be just 2 or 3 passengers. If I remember rightly, the flight numbers were 390 and 391.
    Eric van der Holt

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  • Terry's Travel Tips
  • In NetLetter nr 955 we had an article about Frank Shettlesworth and Thailand -
    Joyce Carette sends us this follow up -
    Just wanted to thank you on Frank's article. Used to work for same department as him under Vic Wozniak, me in Montreal (head office) and Frank in London. We probably met a few times but it has been many years ago.

    I retired in 2004 and afterwards, spent 7 months in Thailand. It was absolutely marvelous. My brother lives in Thailand now so he was a good guide. Too bad I did not know about Frank being in Chiang Mai, my favorite city. Hope to get back there soon so I can look him up. Actually, I sent him an e-mail after reading about him in your newsletter and he sent me all his coordinates.

    I know it is such a far destination (and flights are full most of the time) but I would encourage all employees to at least experience Thailand once in their lives. Fly to Hong Kong, then purchase standby fare with Thai Airways (very cheap) to Bangkok ($100.cdn return) and good for 90 days. Another way is to fly to Los Angeles and buy standby with Thai L.A. to Bangkok directly. Or go to London, England but that is a last resort.

    The first time I was there (only one month at the beginning) it was cheaper than spending one week in Barbados (hotel, food, tours, massages every day, cooking school, hair done, clothes washing, etc.). You have to see it to believe it.

    No wonder they call it the Land of Smiles.

    Happy Travels (don't tell too many Pionairs) the flights are really full already!!!!!!! Just kidding

    Joyce Carette This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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    Extra.nights: on request basis.
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    Transfer APT/HTL about GBP10,00

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