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Our crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
Co-Pilot     - Terry Baker

number 187      date Aug 8th 1997

. If you are having a problem locating Art Adamson, try his new
email Arthur Adamson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

. Welcome to Mac Francis retired as Cargo & Sales Manager-SFO,
living in Walnut Creek, California, has an
email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and sends this
short bio -
Worked 30 years with Air Canada in New York, Chicago,
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Hawaii and enjoyed every
minute of it.  Am married with one son, Devlin;
wife Louise, Cat Tabatha and enjoy a fairly good game
of golf.  Love travelling.

Denis Brackman retired and living in the Montreal area,
email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Jacques Gaucher who is the editor of the Montreal
District Pionairs newsletter "Sentinel'.
Jacques bio reads like this -
I started in 1956 as a Passenger Agent in Quebec city.
From there I became a supervisor at the City Ticket office then
supervisor at the Quebec airport until 1969 when I was then
transferred to Montreal as an instructor, teaching  their trade
to travel agents as well as Travel Agency owners.
In 1972 I was transferred to the Personnel Branch (now Human
Relations) as an Insurance Specialist.  In 1976 I became
Manager of Working Conditions and Employee Benefits where I
stayed until I retired in 1984.
In all this, there were happy as well as miserable periods
depending on who my bosses were but all in all, I' m happy I
did it and have no regrets.
Regards!  Jacques G.
(Those 'bosses' or anyone wishing to give input to the
'Sentinel' can email Jacques at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. - eds)


News from the Districts -
Vancouver Island Pionairs will have their Up Island Luncheon,
held at the Kingfisher, Courtenay, start 11.30 for 12.30.
on Thursday Aug 28th. Cost is CA$15.00 per person, friends
and visiting retirees are welcome. Guest speaker is Al Thompson,
Cheques PIONAIRS to Bill Fisher, 2120 Malaview Ave # 21,
Sidney, V8L 3E4 as soon
as possible to get a count.

Montreal District Pionairs - Bill Sims reports -

With regards to the article in NetLetter nr 186 and the planned
trip to France. Sorry to tell you this event was canceled due to
lack of lead time. We hope to get things going for next year
Michel was disappointed. There was a lot of money up front the
Executive and the Committee thought we better make it next year.

This morning, I spent a few hours at the Montreal Airport, on the
phone calling retirees on behalf of the Air Canada 60th birthday
celebration committee. Person in charge Lynn Haroon 514 422 2165.
Our Director Herb Guilfoyle called in the troops to man the phones.
Family Day Air Canada is celebrating its 60th birthday.
Come and join us for our Family Day. This family day is free and
full of activities for all ages with hot-dogs and ice cream for
All active and retired employees are more than welcome with their
family (children must be accompanied by an adult).
Date Saturday August 16,1997       
Location 747 Hangar Dorval Base   Time 10:00 to 16:00 hrs.
We are looking for volunteers to help organize this event.
We are searching for singers, clowns, musicians (band) anyone
with artistic or musical talents to make it fun for everyone.
Volunteers please. Come one Come all.
For more information call Lynn Haroon at (514)422 2165


.  Tom Grant reminds us that Wed, 06 Aug 35 years ago  TCA
"dayflite" same day return tickets YVR-YYJ went on sale
for CA$9.00.


. Found on the internet.

Virgin Airlines ordered (16) A340-600 from Airbus Industries as
launch customer, to accommodate inflight bedrooms, showers and
exercise areas.

ASIANA recently received (1)B767-300 and (1)B737-400.

United's Chicago to Hong Kong route, which takes 16 hours is
possibly the longest non-stop schedule in the world. 3 meals
and 3 movies help pass the time.

Luxury specialist Francois Arpels of  jewelry and fragrance giant
Van Cleef & Arpels has set up an all first class airline called
Fairlines. The airline, which is to start operations in October,
will be based in Paris (France) and offer flights to Europe's
capitals with a fleet of MD-80 series aircraft.
All 72 seats on each aircraft will be equipped with state of the
art information systems providing weather report, customized news,
duty-free shopping and on-demand movies.

Honest.  We don't make this stuff up.  We must offer still more
proof that airline food is not all it can be. It seems the Food and
Drug Administration wrote a warning letter to Continental Airlines
saying that the carrier's catering facility -- already on
"provisional" status resulting from previous violations -- was
"unsanitary" since some foods were not being stored at proper
temperatures.  In the meantime, we'll pass on the potato salad.

Women In Aviation, International (WAI) has doubled its membership
in one year. Initially announcing the new organization at the March
1995 Women in Aviation Conference, membership grew to 1,000 in 1996
and has doubled to 2,000 by mid-1997.  "The role of Women today in
the Aviation industry, particularly the visibility gained by such
notables as new FAA administrator Jane Garvey and Secretary of the
US Air Force Dr. Sheila Widnall, has a significant impact on the
continued success of women in aviation" said Dr. Peggy Baty,
president and founder of WAI.

Linda Finch may conduct a sequel to her World Flight 1997.


. Interline stuff.

Free air travel is just not enough of an employee benefit for some
airline workers.  Eighteen of them were either indicted or arrested
last week -- twelve in San Juan and six in Miami -- on charges that
they were involved in smuggling drugs into the U.S. from South
America.  The drugs came in either as cargo or secreted in various
compartments (including the cockpits) of passenger jets arriving
from Colombia.

7 days/5 nights include 6 day rental car with unlimited mileage
and 5 nights accommodations with bath.
Great Britain from US$649 pp dbl.
Ireland       from US$549 pp dbl.
France        from US$579 pp dbl.
Germany       from US$639 pp dbl.
Switzerland   from US$719 pp dbl.
Aegean Discovery -
3 day cruise, 7 day/5 nights from US$879 pp dbl. Visit Mykonos,
Patmos, Kusadasi, Rhodes & Pireaus.
Aegean Adventure -
4 day cruise, 8 days/6 nights from US$1029 pp dbl. Visit Mykonos,
Heraklion, Santorini, Rhodes, Kusadasi, Patmos &
Mediterranean Odyssey -
7 day cruise, 11 day/9 nights from US$1489 pp dbl. Visit Istanbul,
Mykonos, Kusadasi, Patmos, Rhodes, Heraklion,
Santorini and Pireaus.
Call 1-800-422-3727 for more details.


. Smilie
Vesta found this one -

It's an apocryphal story that allegedly happened late one night
during bad weather, as heard over the tower radio by a Search and
Rescue pilot at Canadian Forces Base Bagotville, Quebec.:
Helicopter Pilot: "Roger, I'm holding at 3000 over <such-and-such>
Second voice: "NO!  You can't be doing that! *I'm* holding at
3000 over that beacon!"
(brief pause, then first voice again):
"You idiot, you're my co-pilot."


.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.

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