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Our crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
Co-pilot     - Terry Baker

number 201    date Oct 19th 1997
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. The Chief Pilot and Co-Pilot are back in their jump seats for the
next 200 copies of the "Between Yourselves - NetLetter" - enjoy.

. WELCOME ABOARD the following :

1.   Nina Vrsnik -  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Toronto,  active Flight Attendant. 09/18/97
2.   Allan D.McGregor -  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Lockport Manitoba   retired,Wpg Payroll. 09/30/97
3.   Marg Firby -   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Winnipeg MB, friend of AirCanada family 10/01/97
4.   Doug Fulton -  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Portage la Prairie, MB  10/02/97
5.   Bill Norberg - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Winnipeg,frmrly Sr Dir Trans Svcs 09/30/97
6.   Ed Scarth/Cheryl Mott -   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Winnipeg MB, frmrly Proj leader Computer Div
10/05/97
7.   Rhonda Manore ,  Grand Bend, On -  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Former job: = Customer Service Supervisor 10/3/97
8.   Genevieve Howe   email = This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Winnipeg, MB, friend of AirCanada Family 10/05/97
9.   Anne Pachal , Manager of   Employee Communications.
e-mail address : This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  10/06/97
10.  Al Zelmer - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Winnipeg, MB frmr Mgr Disbursement Acctg 10/07/97
11.  Lloyd Burke -  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
FREDERICTON, NB ret. ramp, Dorval 10/10/97

12. and : New E-mail address for: Keith.Hatfield
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

13. Bill Mackenzie assures us that his email is now working try
him on  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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From: "Bill Norberg" This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  (Accolades and Biography)
Date: Tues Sep 39,1997
Dear Vesta and Terry,

I was delighted to receive the information about the "Between
Ourselves Netletter" in the recent Pionairs Bulletin. What a
wonderful way to keep the TCA/AC family in touch.

When one considers the role our industry played in the development
of communications systems it is fitting that we should use the
Internet to keep in touch with those who made it all happen.

Congratulations on bringing this idea to fruition! I see great
potential for this process.

I spent 43 years with Trans Canada Airlines/Air Canada before my
retirement in 1983.I have been associated in one way or another with
57 years of the Airline's 60 wonderful years and in many areas of
the corporation.

It is my opinion the book has yet to be written about how it all
came about.I have wanted and even tried to get such a book underway
but with no success as yet. I have written about 5-600 pages about
my own airline experiences and enjoyed every minute of the task.I
see similar satisfaction for others if they were to try the same.

Take care,be well, and keep in touch.

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Note from Editors: Between Yourselves will be very pleased to
publish any articles that are not copyrighted, or if we have the
author's written permission. (if long, we will print in serial form)
VBS/TB.
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997   (old news but good news)
From: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  (Ron Hayes, LAX)
Subject:  Air Canada 60th or 30th

Flight AC799 (scheduled arrival 1400) September 29 operated with
the A-319 aircraft painted in the old TCA colors. Immediately after
flight arrival, there was a short formal ceremony at the Gate with
local Air Canada Management, a delegate from the Canadian Consulate
and City/Department of Airports Officials. The Gate Area was
decorated and a kilted bagpiper performed. Following the short
ceremony, refreshments and anniversary cake were served in our Maple
Leaf Lounge. The celebration concluded with the departure of the
special A-319 aircraft as flight AC79 at 15:30.
All active as well as retired LAX employees were cordially invited
to attend.

PLEASE NOTE: This has all been noted as the 30th anniversary of Air
Canada operation into Los Angeles and nothing really said about the
60th Birthday. More to follow in a later issue.

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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 ,
Subject: Retirees' Handbook of Reduced Rate Travel
from: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  (Bob Robbins, YOW)

At the June Pionairs' Annual General Meeting, the Vice President,
Human Resources Paul Garratt and his management team participated in
a round- table discussion with many delegates, on various Human
Resources topics. Most discussions concerned Reduced Rate
Transportation. It became clear that many (perhaps most) retirees do
not have a comprehensive grasp of the increasingly-complex Reduced
Rate options. And most don't have easy access to the range of
detailed information they need to effectively use those options.

Several present proposed that the Company and Pionairs produce a
Handbook where most of us could easily find the answers. Mr. Garratt
and Ms. Irene Vazalinskas (the Manager, Industry Travel) warmly
responded to the proposal.

Incoming President Olie Moore and team leader Bob Robbins assembled
a team consisting of Ron Vigars, Stephanie Mandzie, Al Croome, and
Don Demeza to start work on this. In September Ms. Vazalinskas met
with Messrs. Moore, Robbins and Demeza to discuss how we should
tackle the job. We agreed on the following:

*     Our over-all goal is to produce a Handbook that will enable
most of its users to EFFECTIVELY ......
a) identify the reduced rate travel options for which they are
eligible.
b) select the options they will use as they plan their travel.
c) make arrangements (registrations or reservations) to travel.
d) do their travelling.
e) handle any aftermath of travelling (e.g. reconcile deductions
from pension cheques; etc.)
*     We will use formats and language that will easily be
understood by persons who have little or no experience in using
reduced rate transportation.
*     As we develop material we will always check it out with Irene
Vazalinskas before publishing it.
*    Our first job is to produce and regularly  update a reference
Handbook.  This means we will not get into trying to correct
situations that would still exist even if the world's best-compiled
handbook was available to everyone. e.g. We won't try to influence
who gets what privileges and who doesn't ; etc.; etc.; etc.
We have a lot to learn as we tackle this job.  So we'll welcome
hearing from you. email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. News from the Districts -

NEWS FROM VANVOUVER ISLAND DISTRICT
Fall Luncheon being hel on Thursday Oct 23rd at McMorran's
Restaurant. 11:30 am for drinks & chit chat, then 12:30 lunch.
Priced at CA$16.00 pp. Guest speaker Olie Moore, National Director
Pionairs. email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

NEWS FROM MANITOBA AND SASKATCHEWAN PIONAIRS.
Fall Luncheon
Place: Viscount Gort Hotel - 1670 Portage Ave - Merrie Monarch
Room.Date: Oct 23,1997.Time: Cash bar opens at 11:45 am followed by
a hot smorgasbord lunch at 1:00 pm.

* "Between Yourselves - NetLetter" EDS sends their apologies that
we didn't publish  this item earlier, hope everyone had a good time.

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TCA ALUMNI
26th annual reunion to be held November 24 - 28 at the Tradewinds
Resort, St Pete Beach, Florida. Should you wish to join or want
further information please write to Mary Ryder, 1000 MicMac
Blvd.,#607, Dartmouth, NS B3A 4M7 and send a stamped self-addressed
envelope.


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NEW BRUNSWICK PIONAIR DISTRICT NEWS.
FALL LUNCH 1997
Where else but at our usual convenient location:
The Quality Inn, Sussex,on the Trans Canada Highway
just east of the junction with highway 1 from Saint John
1300 hrs Thursday Oct 23rd.

* "Between Yourselves - NetLetter" EDS sends their apologies that
we didn't publish  this item earlier, hope everyone had a good time.

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NEWS FROM OTTAWA DISTRICT NEWSLETTER.
Fall Luncheon was held Saturday Oct 18, 1130am
Your Pionairs pals, spouses and friends gathered at The Mill
Restaurant, 555 Ottawa Parkway( just west of the Portage Bridge).
$15 pp including taxes and tips. Speaker's topic is "Seniors'

* "Between Yourselves - NetLetter" EDS send their apologies that
we didn't publish  this item earlier, hope everyone had a good time.

p.s. Please keep in mind that social events are NOT restricted to
just Pionairs and their spouses. We also welcome: retirees who are
not Pionair members; current employees and their families; ex-
employees who didn't retire; friends of Pionairs and their families;
and persons interested in what Air Canada retirees are doing!

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NEWS FROM EDMONTON PIONAIR DISTRICT.
From: Shirley Jay <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
The fall luncheon is being held October 26, 1997, at the Nisku
Inn.
Social time 11:30 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. and the buffet 12:15 p.m. to
1:30 p.m.
Guest speaker will be Alex Mair, a well known local writer and
broadcaster with an extensive public speaking career. The cost is
$11.50 per person. If anyone from outside the station wishes to
attend, they should advise me, Shirley Jay, at 403 436 0866 by the
22nd of October so they can be included in the totals for the meal.
(or via E- Mail)
FYI the Nisku Inn is a hotel near the International Airport, with a
shuttle bus to and from the Airport.

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From the LONDON, ENGLAND monthly newsletter -

Upcoming events -
Oct 31   -   60th Anniversary celebrations to be held at the
Lakeside Country Club.
Nov 2    -   London to Brighton Road Rally
Dec 1st  -   ACRA Christmas dinner
Dec 7th  -   Pionairs Christmas lunch at the Four Pillars
Hotel, Osterley. which will be a special 60th Anniversary
of Air Canada event. Cost UKP11.00 pp.

The official 60th Anniversary celebrations at the Lakeside
Country  Club will feature childrens games and a fancy dress
party from
1700 to 1900. For the Adults, the evening will consist of a
medley of music from the Musicals followed by a 3 course
meal with a disco to follow (60's music naturally!)
Cost UKP7.50 for adults and UKP2.50 for children.

OKANAGAN District.
Christmas party at the Ramada Lodge, Kelowna from 11.30 am
for 12.30 Luncheon on Dec 1st. Cost CA$17.00 pp.

~-=o0o=-~

. Interline stuff

Rumour has it that Gerry Philpot - retired from Air Canada as
Manager - Pass Bureau is now working with Dargal Interline
Cruises   and Tours Ltd.

~-=o0o=-~
. Smilies
Offered by John Hayes -
My first wife did not like to fly, either.

Flying a plane is no different from riding a bicycle. It's a
lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

We have clearance, Clarence. Roger, Roger. What's our vector,
Victor?

When the weight of the paper equals the weight of the airplane,
only then can you go flying.

~-=o0o=-~

.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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