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Your crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
Co-pilot     - Terry Baker

number 215     date Nov 28th 1997       

. Bob Robbins sends us this reminder -


"Don's document, in Between Yourselves - NetLetter nr 214 is how
the project team PROPOSES to proceed.
Terry and Vesta are publishing it to support our efforts to help
retiree travellers like yourselves.
Please, turn back to NetLetter nr 214; reread the short section
"CONCLUSION" and its three questions; and send in your responses.

Please send any comments directly to:
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Please keep in mind that this project aims to help retirees to
understand and more easily use our travel benefits. We cannot get
into trying to change policies, procedures or practices;  however,
the Industry Travel group welcomes hearing from you."


. John Davidson, who we welcomed in NetLetter nr 211 sends us this
response -
Greetings from Hudson-Heights, Quebec. Quite a few Pionairs
still to be found around here especially on the golf course
during the summer.
Although Sharon has two brothers in the Vancouver area and I
have a son living in Victoria we have so far resisted the urge
to join you out west. There are 11 grandchildren within an hours
drive from here which holds us to this area, at least, for the
time being.
Thank you very much for copies of Between Yourselves.
I recognize quite a few of the names.

. Douglas Maclaren whom we welcomed in NetLetter nr 211 sends us
his bio -

To start off with, just in case you have some readers who are
not sure whether they recognise who I am, I usually spell my
name Doug Maclaren.
Secondly, although there are some who will swear that when I
was winding down to retirement, just because I spent the last
few years in the tool crib doing steady day shift, although some
of them may say that I was retired, I really didn't retire until
Dec.1st, 1987, not 1984. At the time of retirement, I was still
living in the house that I had been born in, in Georgetown, ON.
Then my wife and I moved to a fairly new house just north of
Belleville, ON. in May of '88. As of Jan. 1st, 1998 we will
become part of Belleville. Moving here brought us much closer
to our cottage, which is now just about an hours + drive on
mostly paved country roads.
My career began by going to school in Toronto at Ryerson,
where I graduated with a diploma in Electronics in 1953.
I first was interviewed in the Avionics shop in YZ in '53, but
decided at that time to pursue other electronics vocations.
I returned in Oct. '60, after a short stint in the RCAF and I
decided at that time to pursue aviation electronics. (avionics)
Working around aircraft kind of gets in your blood after a
time. So I spent 27 yrs. and a month in the 'Radio Shop' in
Toronto, when I took early retirement.
Using hindsight, taking early retirement was the best thing
that I could have done. My wife and I were able to enjoy almost
five years of happy times before she passed on. And the best part
is that she was enjoying herself travelling at the time when she
passed away, in Melbourne Australia. Australia was a place that
she said she had always wanted to see. I only hope that I can be
as fortunate when my time is up.
Since retiring, I have bought this computer, and I use it to
write letters with, check out what's happening in the sky, with
the astronomical software, and I use it to draw plans for
various projects, I have built around the house etc. I also have
software that changes scanned sheet music into MIDI files that
play my electronic piano. I also have ADOBE Photoshop and
Illustrator so that I am able to scan the pictures I take, and
doctor them up to look more like artwork etc.
So for me at least, retirement will never become a bore.
I hope what I have written here gives you something of who
I am, where I've been and/or where I'm going.


. Found on the Internet.

YEAR 2000 (Y2K) -
The year 2000 will present computer problems unless changes are
made to software ahead of time. We have suggested several excuses
which can be used, but here are two more -
It is reported that Air Canada are meeting the problem by simply
getting rid of older computers!
(Oh if it were only that simple - eds)
It is rumoured that Lufthansa isn't flying anywhere in the world
on New Year's Day 2000, just in case an airport somewhere in the
world didn't do its work and doesn't have its automatic
air traffic control systems and navigational beacons on.

British Airways plan to launch a low-cost carrier of its own to
serve European destinations. The new airline, based at Stanstead
Airport, north of London, England, will initially fly to cities in
Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Scandinavia beginning early
next year. In an effort to fend off complaints from competition
authorities, the new airline will operate as a separate business
from the parent company, with its own name, management and staff.

Bombardier has sold 10 business jets to TAG Group SA, a
diversified and privately held company in Switzerland.

Although the Concorde has been flying for more than 20 years,
British Airways says it can operate for another 20 years. This
is because the 100-seat aircraft is actually only 4 years old
in 'airplane' years. Each of its fleet of 7 Concordes only fly
3 hours dails, compared with 7 hours for the B757 and 13 hours
for the B747; the plane does not collect corrosive moisture,
as do subsonic aircraft, because of the intense heat generated
in flight.



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. Smilie.
At a recent software engineering management course in the U.S.,
the participants were given an awkward question to answer.
"If you had just boarded an airliner and discovered that your team
of programmers had been responsible for the flight control software,
how many of you would disembark immediately?"
Among the ensuing forest of raised hands, only one man sat motionless.
When asked what he would do, he replied that he would be quite
content to stay onboard.  With his team's software, he said, the
plane was unlikely to even taxi as far as the runway, let alone take


.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.

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