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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

number 269   date May 3rd, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. Welcome to Ted Styrczula on email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Carol Schlifke daughter of Bill Sim with her own email of
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. Russ Reynard sends us this HOT item -
Subject: Industry Travel
Here is a little scoop for you.
I believe that it will be announced at the AGM.
I had occasion to talk to Irene Vazalinskas this week, Irene is currently
the Manager of Industry Travel working out of HQ in Montreal.
She told me about some changes taking place and she said that we were
welcome to share them with all retirees.
As an aside, Irene is retiring at the end of this months.
We are looking forward to welcoming her to the Montreal Pionairs.
By the end of 1998 telephone technology will be in place that will allow
space available ECC callers with touch tone telephones, to either deal with
an agent or deal directly with the computer.  Irene said that, you would
enter your employee number and that would call up the chip and register your
identity, priority, point of contact etc. Then by entering time and date the
computer will identify open flights, you would then register your flights and
be given a  locator number.
Looking to 1999 they plans to provide much more detailed  travel service
charge information on our pension/ pay cheques. Unlike today where we only
receive an amount, we will get the ticket number used, and the complete
itinerary. Broken down to service charge and tax.
Cheers      Russ Reynard  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Whats on Where.
Compiled by Vesta -

Monday  May 4, 1998
ACRA Winnipeg Art Show at  Air Canada Building
Halifax Bowling 1pm Bayers Road Bowlorama
London, UK, coffee at 11am Harvester Pub Ashford Middlesex
Tuesday  May 5, 1998
ACRA Winnipeg Art Show at Air Canada Building
Kelowna/Vernon 10am Coffee&Chat at Muffin Break.
Montreal Pionairs Bowling League Valois Lanes Pte Claire
info 626-3263
Penticton 10:am Coffee & Chat at Tim Hortons Cherry Lane Shopping Mall
Prestwick, Lunch at St Nicholas Hotel
Wednesday  May 6, 1998
ACRA Winnipeg Art Show at Air Canada Building
Halifax Lunch Armdale Yacht Club
Thursday  May 7, 1998
ACRA Winnipeg Art Show at Air Canada Building
Montreal, Lunch at Chenoy's Pte Claire
Friday  May 8, 1998
ACRA Winnipeg Art Show at Air Canada Building
Ottawa, KoffeeKlatsches, Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Sunday  May 10, 1998
Ottawa, Brunches, PlaceNextDoor 320 Rideau St. info 841-7091
Tuesday  May 12, 1998
Montreal Pionairs Bowling League Valois Lanes Pte Claire
info 626-3263
Wednesday  May 13, 1998
Alexandria AC Retirees Lunch Grp,
for info Clive 613-525-4819 or Cam 224-6469
Friday  May 15, 1998
Ottawa, KoffeeKlatsches, Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Sunday  May 17, 1998
Halifax Regional Library Book Launch at 7:00pm
Musquodoit Harbour Branch of Anna Careless
902-889-3179
TORONTO PIONAIRS 1998 AGM
Hotel Colony
Monday  May 18, 1998
TORONTO PIONAIRS 1998 AGM
Hotel Colony
Tuesday  May 19, 1998
Montreal Pionairs Bowling League Valois Lanes Pte Claire
*  California Pionairs monthly meeting at 11am
Air Canada office in Burlingame.
Out of towners welcome
TORONTO PIONAIRS 1998 AGM
Hotel Colony
Wednesday  May 20, 1998
Burlington & Oakville Grp, Coffee at Pig & Whistle,
Burlock Dr & Lakeshore Rd 11am, lunch may be
preordered a week in advance 847-1421
Tampa ACRA Bowling

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. News from Joyce MacDonald.

We recently sent a welcome to Joyce MacDonald, and this is her reply -

HI - I am Art MacDonalds wife and my dad lives with us. He is 88 years
old and he retired from Air Canada in 1973. He was a certified aircraft
mechanic. He has all sorts of medical problems and would get a great kick
out of hearing from other air Canada retires.
Thank you Joyce From: "Joyce Mac Donald" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Here's a story from Tom Martin -

I just reread an article in the Feb/98 issue of Airways magazine about the
Concorde and its 20 years of flying into JFK.  This brought back memories of
AC's short lived flirtation with SSTs. I was lucky my job took me to Bristol,
Paris and Toulouse several times as part of an inter airline group who was
trying to make sure we had good spares coverage and that their systems meshed
with ours.  You ex C&SS folks might remember that Andy McCready came with me
to Bristol and Paris on one occasion.  I knew the Bristol people fairly well
having taken them on a tour of EXPO67 in YUL and they knew my passion for
Harvey's Bristol Cream so in Bristol they inroduced me to Bristol Milk on
tap   in pubs - marvelous stuff.  In Toulouse I was introduced to Provence
cooking
and was lucky to be able to tour a Concorde then from a rooftop watch it do
touch and gos then land and deploy a drag shute to slow it down.

The Airways article has some interesting facts about Concorde:
- 70 aircraft were on the order book (AC for 3 as I recall)
-14 only delivered AF operate 7 BA 8 - seating is 100.
-round trip price JFK-LHR $8548US - takes 3 1/2 hrs
- during supersonic flight heat lengthens the uselage 8 inches and the nose
heats to 127deg C.
- in first 10 min. of flight burns 10 tons of fuel
- last year a BA Concorde flew LHR-JFK; JFK-LHR; LHR-JFK all in one day all
in daylight.
- an AF Concorde left BOS a the same time as a 747 left CDG. Concorde flew to
CDG unloaded  & reloaded in a 1 hr 8 min stopover then flew back to BOS and
landed 11 mins. before the 747.

Oh the dreams of AC operatng SSTs even if they cost a fortune to do so.
Their pilots say its like driving a Formula 1 car.
Cheers - Tom  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Arthur Bedford sends us Ian McMurray's bio -
Here is the bio information on Ian McMurray;
Joined Air Canada April 27, 1953 as a Passenger Agent at Malton Airport
(a.k.a. Toronto). Remained at Malton until January 1960, then moved to
downtown Toronto Reservations (Austin Building and Bloor Street) until
April 1961. Then I went to Cleveland as Airport and Reservations
Supervisor until January 1975, when I transferred to San Francisco as
Sales Representative until retirement June 30, 1988.
Presently I am midway in a two year term as Director Pionairs - USA.
My wife Peggy and I have stayed in Sunnyvale, California, the heart of
Silicon Valley, about 45 miles south of San Francisco. We have a son at
home, and a daughter living in near by San Jose.
GO SHARKS!
Submitted by Art Bedford on behalf of Ian McMurray.
Arthur Bedford <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

And one from David Edward -

I joined TCA 09 June 1958 , and will retire 01 Dec. '98.
My father joined TCA in 1938 and my eldest son joined Air Canada in 1989.
All of us are / were  pilots , but don't hold that against us.
All the best....Dave This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.

SIT DOWN AND BUCKLE UP:
We pilots know that turbulence can shake our nerves and rattle our brains at
any time and generally make use of airplane seatbelts at all times.
Now, the general flying public is being strongly encouraged to do the same
thing.  This week, American Airlines announced it will soon begin requiring
passengers to stay buckled when seated. United, which encountered recent
turbulence with deadly consequences, will soon do the same.  Expect others
carriers to follow suit.
(Air Canada already advises passengers to belt up!! - eds)

British Airways is refuting criticism its new livery is unsafe. Pilots were
complaining they could not identify BA aircraft at night. Air traffic
controllers often guide aircraft on the ground by using other parked aircraft
as landmark but pilots have complained they could not identify British
Airways aircraft at night due to the carrier's numerous multi colour
liveries.
The spat is just the latest in a long line of problems since BA spent GBP 60
millions (USD 100 millions) to replace its stylised red white and blue
British flags with a collection of 50 colourful "world images" in a bid to
give the airline a more international face.

WHO, ME?  OH, JUST HANGING AROUND...WHY?
Some days are more interesting than others, but Jerry Michael "Mike" Warren's
day was about as interesting as it gets.  What began as a short, lonely
commute to work became a four-star worldwide media event starring Warren, his
airplane and a set of utility wires strung near Boeing Field in Seattle.
As he was preparing to land, wake turbulence apparently interfered and in a
go-around gone bad, he and his Cessna 150 ended up some 50 feet off the
ground, hanging from the utility wires by one wheel, the wire catching on the
aircraft's brake disk.
After sparks flew and the plane flipped over, he radioed Boeing Field's
control tower, saying, "I think I have a situation here."  "The lady called
back and said, 'Yeah, you're hanging by one wheel,'" he later recounted.
Like a Boy Scout, Warren was prepared.  Using his cell phone, he called his
employer to let them know he would be a bit late for work.  As fate
would have it, Thursday was Warren's last day on the job at the Duwamish
Shipyard.  Nearly four hours later, Warren was rescued and later the 150
was itself lowered to the ground without damage.  He's still trying to
figure out how to log those hours.

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. Terry's travel tips.

Subject: HOT DEALS!!! Hawaii to Vancouver Cruise - $42.79 per day

NORWEGIAN DYNASTY - DEPART MAY 5 - 14 NIGHTS - FROM us$599. ppd.

MEXICO 7 NIGHT RESORT STAYS - us$125. PPD
Mazatlan -  May  9, 11, 16, 18 1998
Nuevo  Vallarta - May 10 & 17/98

ALASKA - 100th Anniversary of the "Klondike Gold Rush"
11-18 Day CruiseTours from us$899-us$2449. ppd.
7 Night Cruises  May 18, 19, 25, 31, Jun 1, 11 from us$499.pd.

MEDITERRANEAN & EUROPE CRUISES - ss NORWAY
12 TO 15 DAYS FROM us$549.  ppd.
12 Days - June 7/98 - WESTERN MEDITERRANEAN HIGHLIGHTS
Lisbon, Corsica, Milan, Florence, Rome, Monte Carlo,
Nice, Cannes, Palma De Majorca, Barcelona, Marseille .
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Marseille, Monte Carlo, Nice, Cannes, Barcelona, Lisbon,
Cork, Waterford, London, Channel Islands, Cherbourg, Le Havre.
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London, Hamburg, Oslo, Flam, Bergen,Amsterdam, Le Havre.
12 Nights - Aug 23/98 BRITISH ISLES
London, Amsterdam, Invergordon , Glasgow/Edinburgh,
Waterford, Cork, Le Havre.
12 Nights - Sep 4/98 WINE AND ROMANCE
London, Cherbourg, Bordeaux, Cork, Waterford,
Channel Islands, Le Havre, Amsterdam.
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London, Lisbon, Malaga, Monte Carlo/Cannes/Nice,
Milan, Florence, Barcelona .
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Barcelona, Rome, Florence, Milan, Corsica, Ibiza,
Palma de Majorca, Monte Carlo/Cannes/Nice
14 Nights - Oct 10/98 TRANSATLANTIC
Barcelona, Malaga, Madeira, St Thomas, Miami

Call 1-800-665-3100 for details and mention Pionairs.

NICE FRANCE - Hotel Gounod, in city centre, 300 metres from train station,
eff 'till Oct 31/98  single us$74.25, double us$59.53
triple us$55.71. Includes breakfast and taxes.

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. Smilie.

A Huey Cobra practicing autorotations during a military night training
exercise had a problem and landed on the tail rotor, separating the tail
boom.  Fortunately, it wound up on its skids, sliding down the runway
doing 360s in a brilliant shower of sparks.  As the Cobra passed the
tower, the following exchange was overheard:
Tower: "Sir, do you need any assistance?"
Cobra: "I don't know, tower.  We ain't done crashin' yet!"

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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