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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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number 281   date      1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. WE ARE BACK!  We hope you enjoy your summer readings of our
"BETWEEN   yOURSELVES  - NetLetter."
Thanks for all your accolades, eds.

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. Welcome to Ron Kapp, retired and his email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Irene Collins retired and living with husban Ron in Toronto
email them at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Joseph Lemieux retired from Maintenance Winnipeg and moved
to St.Catherines, Ont. try emailing This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Jack Frearnley joins us. Jack is presently at Concordia in
Montreal. Email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. should find him.
Ron Campbell retired and lives in Victoria BC. Started in
Winnipeg 1938. email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?

Ralph and Heather Tisdall now have a new email:
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Marina Young has moved to her cottage for the summer, new email:
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. News from the Districts.

London, England Monthly Newsletter for June -

8 Pionairs represented LHR Pionairs at the AGM in Toronto.

Jun 29th   ACRA theatre trip 'Woman in Black' at the Fortune Theatre.
Aug 10th   ACRA Riverboat Shuffle.
Oct 17/18  ACRA Belgium Beer Festival.
Nov 3/4    UK Pionairs Annual Trip - Boston Bonanza.
Dec 6      Christmas lunch - Heathrow Park Hotel.

The UK Pionairs work jointly with the ACRA for events to keep costs
down.

The UK Pionairs AGM was held on May 11th, attended by 20 members from
a total of 161 members, 62% of the retirees.
Graham Hopkins agreed to be the UK contact for the Air Canada
Archive Committee.
Reports were given by Jack Morath, Social Secretary, Stuart Hyde
Treasurer and Tony Hatch, Pensioner Trustee.

Calgary Air Canada Pionairs Newsletter - YYC Pionair Press -

Membership is 172, of which approximately 50 attend functions.
At the National AGM, total Pionair membership was announced as
6,014, Ottawa - 169, Montreal - 1563, Vancouver - 702,
New Brunswick - 101, Okanagan - 210, Victoria - 323,
London, Ont - 104, USA - 240, Manitoba - 521, Toronto - 1289,
Saskatchewan - 36, Edmonton - 95, Nova Scotia - 280,
Cape Breton - 20 and 40 members in Newfoundland.

Christmas party is planned for Dec 9th at the SAIT (Highwood dining room)
Cocktails at 1800 with dinner at 1830 hrs. Cost $25.00 per person.
Deadline for tickets is Nov 17th.
Contact Jan Papworth (403) 251-1473

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TCA - Air Canada Memorabilia Exhibit -
Fraser Muir sends the following message -
The time and effort we all invested in Air Canada's 60th Anniversary
celebrations continue to pay dividends. Thanks to the co-operation of
so many active and retired Air Canada people, our travelling exhibit
of company memorabilia continues to earn rave reviews, system-wide.
As we start our second 60 years' here is your chance to be included
in this retrospective. I invite you to sift through your show boxes
and sock drawers for any company related material you may have. No item
is too small to be considered for our exhibit.
If you have a soup bowl, a plastic Viscount model, a three-pack of
Life Savers or anything else, we want to hear from you.
TCA-Air Canada represents one of the biggest chapters in the story
of Canadian aviation history, and every item we receive from you helps
us to tell that story.
All material in the collection is catalogued, whether donated or loaned.
Should you desire, your artifacts will be returned to you at a mutually
convenient date. Your TCA-Air Canada memorabilia is in good hands - the
company has allocated storage space and transportation resourses for the
collectionn, as well as professional display units.
Again, I invite you to look 'among your souvenirs'. And once you have
unearthed your treasure, please get in touch with me for details about
how we can include it as part of the TCA-Air Canada Memorabilia Exhibit.

Fraser Muir - email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Help wanted.
Lorna Grosman sends us this appeal -

Pat McGilligan, living at  208 Rossini  Chateauguay, Que., fone 691-3147,
needs someone to help her get on the internet with sympatico and generally
help her understand her computer.   She is willing to make small payment
for these services if someone would call and talk to her about it.
She has an email address but is barely able to use it
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.    She would appreciate any help.
Thanks Lorna.  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Tom Grant sends us this comment -

Re: NetLetter 276 Item about the Connies.
This reminded me that while on vacation I had taken a photo of Connie in
June 1991. I was driving along the south shore of the St. Lawrence
(probably Hwy 132) north of Quebec City. Here was in TCA Connie sitting in
what appeared to be an open air museum. It only had the port wing and engines.
I do not recall the fin or registration numbers. I found the slide, but this
does not reveal the information.
However, I think I have found it at http://www.connie.on.ca/index.html
Here is a Super Constellation on the "airport strip" in Etobicoke. This
aircraft is for sale. The website has a good photo gallery. BTW it is a
40-seat cocktail lounge and meets the current building code. (I now realise
that this is Dixon Road and I had just seen the aircraft a couple weeks ago
when driving to the airport. And this is the Constellation Hotel your
article mentions.)
A locator update shows "CF-RNR  L1049  4544  Constellation Hotel  N8742R
preserved near Toronto Intl 10/97." This is the CF number that you mentioned.
The site selling the Connie said that it found its way to a museum near
Quebec City. Then this must be the aircraft I photographed in 1991.
Interesting to note that the Regal Constellation Hotel website does not
mention the aircraft and the "sales" site does not mention the hotel as its
location!?
The Australian Connie mentioned in the article can be seen at
http://netlink.com.au/~schmidli/connie.htm
The MATS Connie home page is http://www.connie.com/
The Save-A-Connie site is http://www.flightdata.com/sac/
A locator site is at
http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/locator/types/v/c121.html
Cheers, Tom  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
(The MATS connie is presently in Europe celebrating the Berlin Airlift - eds)

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. Terrys travel tips.

The latest Air Canada timetable available from the web site was updated
June 19th and valid until April 1999.

Hungarian Wine Festival - Hosted by the Hungarian Interline Club.
Sept 17th - 21st. Hotel Benczur, Budapest.
Cost us$320 includes accommodations, meals, gala dinner,
guides, entrance fees.
Transfer minibus fee us$8.00
Deadline date July 15th.

Cyprus Interline Club hosting the Aphrodite '98 Tour.
Sept 9th - 14th. Cost cyp210 pp includes -
5 days hotel, 5 breakfasts, 3 lunches, 2 dinners, gala dinner,
welcome souvlaki, drinks with all meals, guide, entrance fees,
boat trip.
Use ID90n2 on Cyprus Airways. Transfers and airport taxes additional.
Dealine Aug 15th.

Contact your local Interline club or WACA  email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Smilies.

Doug Davidson sends us more stories from travel agents -

I got a call from a man who asked, "Is it possible to see England
from Canada?" I said, "No." He said "But they look so close on the
map."

Another man called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. When
I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had a one hour layover in
Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, "I
heard Dallas was a big airport and I need a car to drive between
the gates to save time."

A nice lady just called. She needed to know how it was possible
that her flight from Detroit left at 8:20 AM and got into Chicago
at 8:33 AM. I tried to explain that Michigan was an hour ahead of
Illinois, but she couldn't understand the concept of time zones.
Finally I told her the plane went very fast and she bought that!

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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