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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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number 301   date Aug 22nd, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. We welcome another group to our readership -
Douglas Dolmans living in Cloverdale, BC  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Bob Boudreau from Dorval Que              This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Russell Ley at Mississauga, Ont           This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Mervyn Holt lives in Kanata, Ont          This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Jeanguy Roberge from Blainville, Que      This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
Try Harmon Ronning at the new email:     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Need to know -

Interim Expenses for Delayed Baggage
Employees travelling on space available passes are NOT entitled to delayed
baggage deliveries or interim expenses. The same applies to employees of
other airlines, family members and travel partner passes holders travelling
on space-available passes.
For confirmed space tickets, such as ID80 or Family Affaire tickets,
normal delivery and interim expense policies apply.

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. Ed Spaiches sends this appeal -
This is for those of you who know Vic Kavanagh.
As a Telecoms Technician, he worked out of his Halifax base for many years
and then in the Telecoms Lab in Dorval retiring some 15 years ago.
Vic has recently undergone a multiple bypass operation and is having
considerable difficulty recovering and healing. In talking with him and his
wife Norma, I know that he is very depressed and I am sure that he would
very much appreciate hearing from his old friends.
He is not on the Internet but he has been an enthusiastic amateur radio
operator however I do not believe he has been active lately.
He can be contacted as follows:..............Tel: 514-697-6197 or
....by mail at: 105 Sunderland,  Pointe Claire, Que., H9R 1L4
So please to take a moment, and send a card to Vic.
"Edward Spaiches" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
(We are sure Ed will pass any messages on if he gets them via email - eds)

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. Are we ready for another great story from Bill Norberg - sure we are!

It was in the early 1960's and time to choose a new aircraft type.
This time it was an aircraft to replace and complement the Viscount fleet
which by now was entering its 10th year of operation. About five different
types were under consideration of which the DC-9 and the BAC111 were
candidates.
The airline had painstakingly worked its way through the development of
the Viscount aircraft into a very reliable performer that was well liked
by our passengers. We had then allowed ourselves the pleasure of having to
deal with the Vanguard fleet also made by BAC.
By this time Maintenence were getting a little tired of some of the
peculiarities of this breed of aircraft and felt there had to be another
way. The concept of "Maintainability" became a keystone in the evaluation
process of new aircraft as far as our department was concerned and both
Douglas and Boeing understood that very well. They went out of their way to
find ways to make the aircraft easier to maintain with shorter downtimes.
Reliability and maintainability were the bywords.
BAC was very anxious to have Trans-Canada purchase their next fleet from
them namely the BAC 111. We had already had two of their types, why not a
third? The Managing Director of BAC was named Sir George Edwards and a good
friend of the (our) President Mr. Gordon MacGregor. He did all he possibly
could to convince not only Mr. MacGregor but everyone in Engineering and
Maintanance that the BAC 111 was the way to go.
The evaluation process was lengthy, over two years, and it was made in
favour of the DC-9. Sir George was very disappointed needless to say but we
were delighted.
Douglas had made maintainability a real focus of their design for the DC-9.
They selected a man from within their organization to head up that aspect
who was well steeped in airline maintenance philosophy. His name was
A.M.Sutherland or "Mickey Sutherland" as he was known when he was Director
of Maintenence and Overhaul for Trans-Canada Air Lines before leaving to
move to the U.S.A. in the early 50's.
There is a sad appendix to the disappontment BAC suffered as a result of
this decision. Several weeks after we made the decision to go DC-9
a BAC 111 on test flight in the U.K. crashed killing many of their key
engineering staff. The aircraft had gone into a deep stall as part of the
test procedure and they were unable to get out of the stall. The aircraft
virtually pancaked into the ground killing all on board. This situation was
caused by the T-tail configuration of that type of aircraft. As a result
the designs and procedures for other T-tail aircraft such as the DC-9 were
amended. I believe drogue chutes were also to be installed for test
conditions to make it possible to get out of such a stall if it was ever
encountered.
As a footnote.
It is now 1998 and some DC-9's are still operating for Air Canada...some 33
years later. The design and reliability of that aircraft fleet made it one
of the workhorses of the airline.
"Bill Norberg" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. John Gomes sends us his bio -
Just to introduce myself:
Joined TCA in POS July 1/63 as Res/CTO Supervisor/Sales Representative;
transferred in Aug/70 to Cargo Pricing at PVM then to Transportation
Services in 72, C&SS in 79 and Finance in 85.
Received a package from Air Canada Dec/90. Since then I have been a
Financial Consultant, helping people SAVE MONEY and TAXES legally.
Regards, "John Gomes" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. News from the Districts.
Subject: Comox Valley Pionairs
We in the Comox Valley just held our Annual Summer Picnic and we had a great
time with 42 people attending. The picnic was held at the home of Bev and
Al Edwards overlooking the water. Another beautiful day that we have been
lucky enough to have the summer of 1998. We still hold our monthly luncheon
the last Thursday of every month. If  there are any new people in the
vicinity who would like to join us to renew old friendships or make new ones
please call Ralph Tisdall at 250-338-5788 and we will let them know where we
will be meeting that month. We have a very active group here.
Bye for now, Heather and Ralph Tisdall
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's travel tips.

SPECIAL INTERLINE PROMOTION EUROPEAN CRUISES ON COSTA CRUISES
7-NTS AS LOW AS us$569 PP

COSTA VICTORIA - 7 NIGHTS GREECE/TURKEY - SEPT. 13, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$569 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$729 3RD/4TH PAX - us$200
COSTA ROMANTICA - 7 NIGHTS TUNISIA/SPAIN/FRANCE - NOV. 1, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$569 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$729 3RD/4TH PAX - us$200
COSTA RIVIERA - 11 NIGHTS CANARY ISLANDS - OCT. 11, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$999 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$1149 3RD/4TH PAX - us$500
COSTA MARINA - 7 NIGHTS BALTIC & RUSSIA - SEPT. 13, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$569 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$729 3RD/4TH PAX - us$200
COSTA RIVIERA - 10 NIGHTS EGYPT/ISRAEL - OCT. 22, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$899 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$1049 3RD/4TH PAX - us$450
COSTA CLASSICA - 7 NIGHTS GREEK ISLES - NOV. 2, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$569 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$729 3RD/4TH PAX - us$200
COSTA CLASSICA - 5 NIGHTS VENICE/GENOA - NOV. 9, 1998
INSIDE CABIN - us$399 OUTSIDE CABIN - us$469 3RD/4TH PAX - us$150
Interline rates are offered to airline employees and their families.
Proof of eligibility is required. All rates are cruise-only, per person
based on double occupancy.  Port charges/fees are additional on the Costa
specials.  Space is limited.  Call 1-800-345-7576!!! for details

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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