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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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number 310   date Sept 17th, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. We welcome Ate Lageveen retired General Foreman Engine Maintenance lives
in Kanata Ont. Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Klaus Stahl retired Manager ATE Engineering lives in London, Ont
Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Joan Milton retired as Technical & Support Admin. clerk living
in Beautiful BC - Vancouver actually.
Email Joan at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Ronald Castelli retired as CSA/Lead Ramp Co-ordinator living
in Tampa, Florida email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. WHAT'S ON AND WHERE IT IS.
compiled by Vesta.
With the strike disturbing our Pionair Events and ACRAs, would 
contacts please to let me know of cancellations so that I can update the
events program calendar.

Friday  September 18, 1998
Ottawa,  Pionair KoffeeKlatsches AT 10 AM Weekly, Family
Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Tuesday  September 22, 1998
Montreal Pionairs wkly Bowling League - Valois
Arena 62 Donegani Pte C Mary Timmons 514-626-3263.
Wednesday  September 23, 1998
**NEW**St Catherines Pionairs and other Retirees @10am Sweets &
Crepes Cafe - Ontario St at Lakeport. Colin Bailey 935-3970
Thursday  September 24, 1998
Comox, Van Isle Pionairs monthly  call Ralph Tisdall at 250-338-5788
or email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. for location.
Longboat, Florida ACRA Tennis - Colony Beach Resort
Friday  September 25, 1998
Longboat, Florida ACRA Tennis - Colony Beach Resort.
Ottawa,  Pionair KoffeeKlatsches AT 10 AM Weekly, Family
Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Saturday  September 26, 1998
Longboat, Florida ACRA  Tennis - Colony Beach Resort

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. News from the districts.
From the Ottawa Sept Newsletter -
Coming events -
Oct 3rd luncheon at The Mill, 555 Ottawa Parkway  at 11.45
just $16.00 pp includes taxes & tips. Cash bar available.
Guest speaker will be a representative of the
Dreams Take Flight Team.
Contact Bruce Wannamaker at 521-1838 to reserve.
Nov 8th a Sunday brunch at The Place Next Door, 320 Rideau St at 11.00
contact Jess Rougeau (613)841-7091 by Nov 1st to reserve.
Dec 6th - same time same place as above! Even the price is expected
to be the same.
Contact Bruce Wannamaker at 521-1838 to reserve.
The Ottawa district also have weekly get-togethers each Friday from
10.00-11.00 at the Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping Centre.
The Alexander Pionairs meet every 2nd Wednesday of each month, call
Cam Evans at (613)224-6469 or Clive at (613)525-4819 for details.
Visiting Pionairs most welcome to the above events.

Air Canada's Dream Take Flight - Ottawa has a tentative date of Sept 30th.
An orientation is planned for Sept 19th.
Help is needed on the day of the flight, and volunteers MUST attend
the orientation. Volunteers wishing to participate should contact
Helmut & Maria Hemmerich (613)599-9498 or email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

A reminder that, no matter how well you feel, or how short your vacation,
if it is outside your province, you should be obtain supplementary
health insurance.


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. Brian Dunn sends us this information from YYZ -

Due to the Air Canada pilots strike, aircraft had to be parked at various
airports around the world when the strike was called, must have been some
parking fee!

The head of Iran Air said the airline is planning to start flights
to Canada and is attempting to buy six new aircraft.

Air Canada put an A319 into service Sept 5th on behalf of
Swissair operating two round trips between Halifax and New York/JFK,
with two more trips planned each on September 6th and 7th if required.
Supervisory pilots were employed.

AIRLINERS INTERNATIONAL--TORONTO

Aviation Display and Collectibles Show -- Saturday October 17, 1998
Keep this date open on your calendars and enjoy meeting fellow aviation
enthusiasts as well as buying/trading all sorts of memorabilia with others.

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. Ron Munson sends us some news from LHR -

Lufthansa has come under fire by a year 2000 newsgroup for being behind in
its date bug preparations.  It is said that the airline is more concerned
with ensuring its systems are ready for the euro currency.   The airline
says it is taking appropriate steps to allow for a smooth safe transition
and expects to be on schedule.

British Airways has bought a £150,000 flight tracking application, believed
to be the largest global positioning system of its kind, to provide
real-time location information on aircraft in flight. The system, called
Flightwatch, is designed to identify routes which could be affected by
adverse weather and closed, or restricted, airspace.  Users access the
system from a PC which presents a computer generated map, showing aircraft
and flight paths             
Regards, Ron. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. L1011 affectionados -
Maybe interested in knowing that c/n 1058 which was CF-TNI when operated
by Air Canada and sold to Royal Airlines has turned up as CC-CZF under
the colours of ChileInter.

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. Found on the internet.

COFFEE, TEA, OR EBOLA?
In a situation reminiscent of the movie "Outbreak," an Air Canada DC-9
and 97 passengers were quarantined last week after alleged exposure to the
Ebola virus.  The episode began when a passenger from an earlier flight told
Canadian authorities he had the virus.
The plane had already taken off on its next leg, but officials
tracked it to La Guardia where it was towed to a remote section of the
airport while the man was tested and found, thankfully, to be Ebola-free.

CYBER TRAVEL

Delta Air Lines is offering passengers buying tickets through its
own on-line reservation system a 50% discount on future travel.
The promotion is valid for all tickets with a minimum price of USD299 per
person. The half-price ticket must be bought within a
certain period of time, but not at the same time as the qualifying
ticket and the 50% reduction cannot be applied on the cheapest
fares offered by the carrier.

A new computer game called JetWars now gives everyone a
chance at trying to manage a multi-million dollar airline in a
constantly moving industry. The software, released by
Alexsisgroup, strives to emulate real-life conditions as much as
possible while avoiding to become too technical. Players can
launch fare wars to try and kick an opponent out of a market, but
if the loss associated with such a strategy becomes too important,
filing for bankruptcy allows you to keep on operating your airlines
without paying your debts, but for a time only. Players can also
expand in new markets to counter existing airlines, but no carrier
earns a profit at hub airports where two or more airlines operate. As
in real life, the highest profit is made on routes where there is no
competition.    Could you run a major airline ? Find out with the new PC
simulation for airline and financial managers
http://www.logoncafe.net/jetwars/

BRITISH AIRWAYS ORDERS AIRBUS…

British Airways is to acquire up to 188 A319s, A320s and A321s
from Airbus Industrie, the airline’s largest commitment ever in a
single deal. British Airways also took options and purchase rights on a
further 129 aircraft to be decided between the A319, the A320 and the
A321, with deliveries extending to 2006.
British Airways (BA) has announced plans to purchase up to 32
777-200ER aircraft from Boeing.

Hmmm!

Nearly all the pilots of cash-strapped TransAsia Airways have chosen to
quit rather than take pay cuts aimed at helping the carrier cope with falling
revenues due to Asia's economic slowdown and brisk competition among the
island's 14 local carriers.
Many of the pilots will look to Philippine Airlines which is actively
recruiting new pilots after firing its own pilots after they defied a
government order to halt their strike against the airline and return to work.

FAA RELEGATES SELF-DEFENSE SPRAYS TO CHECKED BAGGAGE:
It's official: airline passengers must carry any self-defense sprays --
pepper spray or mace -- in checked baggage, not in carry-ons.  The FAA
decision is in response to numerous requests from pax and crews for some
means of self-protection once they reach their destinations.
A concern is that elimination of the pepper spray from the cabin will only
serve to make the food that much more unpalatable.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Super Deals on Celebrity Cruises & Royal Caribbean !
RATES ARE IN US DOLLARS AND ARE BASED ON DOUBLE OCCUPANCY.

Sail on the Rhapsody of the Seas to Hawaii for 11 nights
10/7 - $999.00pp  Inside Cabin Outside - $1299.00pp
9/26 - $1049.00pp Inside Cabin Outside - $1189.00pp
These rates include port charges!!!!!!! 

Legend of the Seas Hawaii to Ensenada on 9/30 - 10 Nights
Rates starting at $1299.00pp  Including port charges

Galaxy - Alaska/Pacific Coastal - 9/25 - Rates starting at $599.00pp

Galaxy - Southern Caribbean - Several dates in Oct., Nov., & Dec.
Rates starting at $599.00pp  Including port charges

Mercury - Western Caribbean - Several dates in Oct., Nov., & Dec.
Rates starting at $599.00pp  Including port charges

Majesty of the Seas - Western Caribbean - 11/29, 12/6, 12/13
Rates starting at $599.00pp  Including port charges

Monarch of the Seas - Southern Caribbean - 11/29, 12/6, 12/13
Rates starting at $549.00pp  Including port charges

Song of America (New York to San Juan) - 10/25
Rates starting at $599.00pp  Including port charges

Also great interline rates on the BRAND NEW 'VISION OF THE SEAS'
(10/11 NIGHTS) &  the 'LEGEND OF THE SEAS' (14-NIGHTS) for Early 1999
on the Canal sailings

These rates will go quickly so please call 1-800-665-3100 Today!!
and please don't forget to mention Pionairs.

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. Smilie -

A veteran 747 captain recently retired and got checked out in a Cessna
172 for "puddle jumping."  After filing a short IFR flight plan over the
phone one day, he definitely got the attention of the Flight Service
Station specialist when he added, "..and I'd like to declare an
emergency at this time."  Intrigued, the FSS man dutifully recorded in
the "Remarks" section of the flight plan exactly what the old captain
had to say:
"I'm down to one radio, one VOR receiver, no deice equipment, one flight
crew member, and one engine."

Overheared this exchange between a mother and her young son on a recent
commercial flight:
About one hour into the flight a dog could be heard barking from the
cargo hold underneath.  The little boy asked his mother what the noise
was.
She replied, "It's a dog."
After a brief period of thoughtful silence, the little boy asked,
"Mom, how high are we?"

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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