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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between

number 318   date Oct 11th, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. Vesta, our Chief Pilot, has a revised email address of
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Please send everything for the NetLetter to both Vesta and Terry.

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. HAPPY BIRTHDAY NETLETTER!
Just 3 years ago yesterday. On the 10th of October 1995 Vesta and I sent
our very first NetLetter. Over the years we have grown to a readership of
well over 500. Some of our early readers are -
Alan Rust, Gord Hykle, Mark Caduc, Doug Cochrane, Sheldon Doskie,
Mike Leduc, Phillip Pawsey, Benoit Vezina, David Walker, Terry Kwizak,
Bill Sim, Frank Takasaki, Jack Dahlgren, Aron Charad, Eric LaLonde,
Moe Dixon, Dave Baker, Joe Mallory, Al Blackwood, Douglas Marchant,
Saville Hambleton and Charles Mackie.
If any of you have been trying to contact a fellow worker, let us know
we may be able to get you in contact with each other.

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. More to welcome -
Stew and Barbara Stockfish retired District Sales Manager in Mar 1989,
lives in Sault Ste. Marie Ont. email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Frank & Deede Coughlin retired. Phil Pawsey tells us that Frank was
a senior Navigator upon retirement. Frank and I came home from
overseas during WW2 on the same boat, in fact we were around
30 West on VE day and we were issued one whole bottle of beer.
Frank can be emailed at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Kitch Olson retired V.P.Purchases & Facilities YUL, now living in
Sidney, BC. Email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now!
Bob and Betty Anderson can be emailed at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Creighton Sargeant gave us a wrong email in NetLetter nr 317, should
be This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

If you are having trouble contacting David Walker in Montreal on
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
try the alternate This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Golfers - eat your heart out!
Brad Faxon, US golf professional entered the record books with a putt that
travelled 8 1/2 miles in 23 seconds. He sent the ball rolling 120 foot
down the aisle of the passenger cabin of the Concorde as it flew 1330 mph
on the flight taking the US Ryder Cup team from New York to Malaga, Spain
last year. The 3 hour 25 minute flight was the fastest passenger flight
from New York to Malaga.
(He missed making the putt by the way! - eds)

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. Help!
David Walker from Monteal makes this request
I recently received a copy of an old black and white photo from the
company archives.
The picture (circa 1951) showed  the senior Link Trainer instructor
Bill Finnie, and a new hire pilot trainee - me.
I wonder if you could ask if anyone has an address for Bill.
I would like to send him a copy of the picture.
Thanks   David Walker   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

John Bosma has a request -
Could anyone tell me where we can purchase merchandize with the
Air Canada logo on it, i.e. wine and liquer glasses.
At one time there was an insert in Between Ourselves.
I also remember an Air Canada catalogue with all kinds of items, but it
seems it was held back in the Supervisors drawer.
thanks...John. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.
ICEs to replace short-haul flights
German Railway and Lufthansa are agreed that rail will in the future largely
replace domestic air services. Although the switch will start modestly with
flights from Koln, Dusseldorf and Stuttgart converting to ICE services once
the Koln -- Frankfurt high speed line is completed, there are plans for
many more domestic air feeder routes to be covered by rail services in the
long term.
Key to the proposals is completion in 1999 of a dedicated inter-city station
at Frankfurt airport. Stations offering similar facilities are being built
or planned at the airports in Koln-Bonn, Dusseldorf, Berlin and Leipzig.
Meanwhile, Lufthansa passengers will from this month benefit from a
'moonlight check-in' facility in Dusseldorf, Koln, Bonn, Nurnberg and
Wuerzburg stations by handing in checked baggage and collecting a boarding
pass the evening before departure.

Not strictly air, but somewhat relevant.
The Australian government selected the French TGV for the Sydney - Canberra
high speed railway. Interestingly, Qantas is one of the partners in the
consortium which will build and operate the line. Qantas plans to eliminate
short-haul air services between the two cities after 2003.
The journey time would be 81 minutes, compared to 50 minutes flying time.
Sydney airport is around 40 minutes from the city by taxi.
The new line will run via Sydney airport with stations at the domestic and
international terminals.

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. B747's.
More info re the B747's being retired by Air Canada.
Fin 301 CF-TOA was delivered to AC Feb 9th 1971, sold to Guiness Peat
Aviation on July 28th 1984 and, after a succession of different owners and
sub leases, ended up with AAR Engine Sales & Leasing on July 6th 1995 to be
cannibalized for spares and broken up.
Fin 302 CF-TOB was delivered Mar 18th 1971, sold to Guiness Peat Aviation
on May 1st 1985 for a varied list of owners including  Iberia, Middle
East      Airlines, Olympic Airways, Egyptair, Nigeria Airways, Wardair,
Fedex,          Nationair and stored in Saudi Airlines livery in the Mirana
Desert
in October 1995.
Fin 303 was delivered June 24th 1971.
Fin 304 was delivered May 14th 1973.
Fin 305 was delivered May 13th 1974.

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. News from Toronto by Brian Dunn -

Aeroflot Russian International will be commencing scheduled service
into YYZ for the first time effective October 26th with twice-weekly
A310 flights.  Their previous flights were officially charter flights.
This time they will route their Monday flights SVO-YUL-YYZ, then
non-stop YYZ-SVO for the return.

Mexicana Airlines will be moving over to Terminal 2 from Terminal 1
sometime this fall.  They would like to become full members of the Star
Alliance group, but are now content to code-share with United to/from
U.S.A. points.  It is expected that an announcement will be made about
Mexicana code-sharing with Air Canada on their services from Toronto and
Montreal to Mexico City once a moving date has been established.
Mexicana currently operates three A320s per week from/to Mexico City and
Toronto.

Air New Zealand and Air Canada have launched a new code-sharing
agreement effective October 8th.  The Vancouver to HNL leg is flown with
Air Canada 767-300s on "wet-lease" to Air New Zealand, and then passengers
switch to Air New Zealand 767s for the HNL to Auckland leg.
Air New Zealand is set to become a full member of the Star Alliance group
in 1999.                       Brian Dunn   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's travel tips.

Visiting Australia?
You need a valid passport and a tourist visa. The visa is free from the
Australian consulate, embassies or ETA which is a free electronic approval
available through any travel agent.

HOT HOLIDAY SPECIALS
7 night Western Caribbean - Celebrity Mercury - Dec. 20
$475 inside pp/dbl, 3rd & 4th $77.50, outside - $575
Ft. Lauderdale, Key West, Calica, Cozumel, Grand Cayman, Fort Lauderdale
7 night Eastern Caribbean - Celebrity Century - Dec 19
$875 inside pp/dble, $1175 outside
Ft. Lauderdale, San Juan, St. Thomas, St. Maarten, Nassau, Ft. Lauderdale
7 night Deep Caribbean - Celebrity Galaxy - Dec 19
$775 inside pp/dbl, 3rd & 4th - $375, outside $875
San Juan, Catalina Island, Barbados, Martinique, Antiqua,
St. Thomas, San Juan
7 night Western Caribbean - NCL Majesty - Dec. 21
$699 inside pp.dbl, $849 outside, $899 deluxe
Miami, Belize City/Belize, Cozumel/Mexico, Key West/Florida,
Great Stirrup Cay, Miami
7 night Western Caribbean - NCL Leeward - Dec 21
$699 inside pp/dbl, $849 outside, $899 deluxe
Miami, Nassau, Great Stirrup Cay, Cozumel/Mexico, Cancun/Mexico,
Key West, Miami
10 night Western Caribbean - RCL Splendor of the Seas - Dec 16
$964 inside pp/dbl, $509 - 3rd & 4th,  $1164 outside
Miami, Playa del Carmen/Cozumel/Mexico, Georgetown/Grand Cayman,
Ocho Rios/Jamaica, St. Thomas/USVI, San Juan/Puerto Rico,
Labadee/Haiti, Miami
All rates US$ pp/dbl, subject to availability, new bookings only.
Port charges/Gov't fees additional.
Contact Dargal Interline at 1-800-690-3223  and mention Pionairs.

SOUTH AMERICA.
7 days/4 nights Lima, Cuzco, Machu Picchu from us$1079 pp dbl includes
Round trip space available to Lima, positive air from Lima to Cuzco,
train to Machun Picchu and return Lima, 2 nights hotel with breakfast
in Cuzco, 2 nights Lima, transfers, tour lima and Machu Picchu.
7 days/4 nights Rio De Janeiro from us$469 pp dbl includes
Round trip space available air, 4 nights accommodations with breakfast
and tour of Rio.
7 days/4 nights Santiago, Chile from us$659 pp dbl includes
Round trip space available air and hotel accommodations.
Call 1-800-422-3727 for more details.

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. Smilie.
We can't verify this story, but it seems that aircrews are getting more
resourceful about supplementing their incomes...
It is reported the following announcement was heard over the cabin PA system
of a Cathay Pacific B747:
"Ladies and gentlemen, we are overbooked and are offering anyone $1,000 plus
a seat on the next flight in exchange for their seat on this flight."
After a short pause, the offer was loudly accepted by someone in the cockpit.

Karl Eliason sends us another 'Southwest' joke -
This is an actual joke I heard on Southwest Airlines, just after a
very hard landing in Salt Lake City, one of the most bone jarring
experienced;  The steward came on the intercom and said, "That was quite
a bump and I know what ya'll are thinking.  I'm here to tell you it
wasn't the airlines fault, it wasn't the pilots fault, it wasn't the
flight attendants fault.......it was the asphalt!"

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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