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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between

number 320   date Oct 16th, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. Need to know -
We have been following the dialogue on the acra mailing list on the
acra web site regarding  Pass photo ID cards -

In our NetLetter nr 133 dated March 11th 1997 was the following information -

Quote -
'The following information from Irene Vazalinkas of Industry Travel Office -
Subject: Reissue of ID & Travel Cards for retirees.

We are planning to reissue all travel cards for the retiree
group next year. All those based in Monteral area will be
welcome to have their photo taken in our department.
All others will be given instructions to provide us with an
acceptable passport-sized black and white picture. We will
also be mailing signature forms'
Unquote

David Livingstone provided this information -

.... the  letter he'd mislaid probably went to eastern Canada only.
it was sent Sep 21 from Industry Travel to "those who retired prior to 1992
& who are still in posessionof 2 cards (the ID photo card and a travel
card)."
New cards will be issued this fall for eastern Canada retirees and
they expect to complete the project by the end of 1999 for other regions.
I assume most retirees west of the best haven't got the letter yet. I'd
include the whole text but I'm a lousy typist and I haven't yet figured out
how to scan and get an edited document instead of a picture.
David Livingstone   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. We welcome - Norm Danton retired Passenger Sales lives in Vancouver
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Douglas Hicks retired Airport Manager living in
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. Where are they now?
Denise and Maurice Methot will winter in Florida, and their new email
will be This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Kitch Olson correct email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Gerry Gough not answering his email - anyone in contact?

Bill Norberg asks
if anyone knows the whereabouts of Stan Bennett or if he has an E-mail
address. Thanks
Bill Norberg  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Whats on where.
(compiled by Vesta)

Tuesday  October 20, 1998
Burlingame California  Pionairs monthly meeting at 11am Air Canada office
Montreal Pionairs weekly  Bowling League - Valois Arena
62 Donegani Pte Claire
Wednesday  October 21, 1998
Burlington & Oakville  Pionairs Grp, Coffee at Pig & Whistle,
Burlock Dr  & Lakeshore Rd 11am.
St Catherines Pionairs/and Retirees @ 10am Sweets & Crepes Cafe
on Ontario St  at Lakeport.
Friday  October 23, 1998
Ottawa,  Pionair  KoffeeKlatsches AT 10 AM
Weekly, Family  Restaurant, Carlingwood  Shopping
Tuesday  October 27, 1998
Houston TX - Blue Angels   air show
Montreal Pionairs weekly   Bowling League - Valois Arena
62 Donegani Pte Claire
Wednesday  October 28, 1998
Calgary Pionairs Luncheon &  General Meeting at Royal Canadian Legion
Houston TX - Blue Angels air show.

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. Stew Stockfish sends in his bio -
Some background.....
I started in YOW as a Station Attendant back in June 1948, moved to YYZ in
l952 & did a variety of jobs until I moved to YUL in 1967.
Did management training until 1970 then moved back to YYZ .
I was Customer Service Manager at Terminal 2 until I was transferred
to YAM (Sault Ste. Marie) in Dec. 73 as District Sales Manager & stayed &
retired here in Mar. 1989. My wife`s name is Barbara & we have 5 grown
children 2 of whom work for AC in YYZ.
stew stockfish     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.
CONTINENTAL TRYING TO SET UP ALLIANCE
Continental Airlines and Northwest Airlines have held talks about
widening their partnership to include three European carriers,
adding another ripple in the wave of global airline alliances.
The carrier has approached Air France, Italy's Alitalia and KLM Royal Dutch
Airlines about forming a larger global partnership.
A likely name for the alliance is Wing.

A British doctor who came to the rescue of a fellow passenger on
an American Airlines flight is suing the airline to recover the cost of
his intervention, which he puts at USD 200 per hour for a total of
USD 900. "I was asked by a rich, ruthless commercial organization
to undertake a service as a professional. I did that service. I did it
well. I deserve to be paid," said Dr. John Stevens, who has pledged
to donate the money to charity. American Airlines said it thanked
the doctor with a bottle of champagne and a flight voucher, which
he declined.

American Airlines is canceling flights due to a shortage of pilots.
American pilots take most of their retirement money in a lump sum
from a company mutual fund, and their contract provides for a three-
month window to retire at a set share price. As result, pilots who
leave now get retirement distributions based on July's stock prices
that were much higher than current performance. Lately American pilots
have been receiving distributions of up to us$3-million apiece at
retirement!

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. Time for another story from Bill Norberg -
Subject: Our first 747 is damaged!

The arrival of our first 747 was a major event in the early spring of 1971.
We in Maintenance had been preparing for its arrival for a long time and
felt we knew quite a bit about them. However when you come face to face
with the first 747 you will be responsible for maintaining you feel a little
humbled. It was a huge aircraft and so much was to depend on its
performance and reliability.
We had no practical back up for a 747 flight at that time.
After the aircraft arrived at Gate 22 of the Dorval Terminal after its
delivery flight we moved it to our new 747 sized hangar for training and
modifications. We tended to treat the aircraft like fine china as no one
wanted the unenviable reputation of having "dinged" our first 747.
We had  two bays in the new 747 hangar at Dorval and one was completed in
time to accept this first 747. As the construction work had just been
completed on this bay we wanted to be sure there were no tools, pieces of
construction material  or other foreign objects  that could fall off the
beams and walkways in the ceiling area of the hangar and hit the aircraft
below. We had our facilities people check all these areas the day before
and felt comfortable that all was well.
The aircraft was finally placed in the hangar. Not long after a
construction workers safety helmet was to fall directly on the top of the
747 damaging the SATcom antenna, for which we had no spare as it was not in
use at that time. We recovered the helmet but were never able to identify
its owner. No doubt a worker from the unfinished bay was curious and came
across the walkway to have a look at this marvellous new huge aircraft.
There is an old saying..."If it can happen....it usually does".
We eventually were to become good friends with the 747's and  realized that
the sky did not fall if we had a technical problem with one of them. We
just had to take it on as we did with every other aircraft. As I remember
it we had 38 days of the operation on the Miami flight before we had our
first  maintenance delay.
The honeymoon was over.
Bill Norberg   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
(Fin 301 CF-TOA was received Feb 9th 1971. - eds)

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. Brian Dunn sends us some more information -
To clarify the item regarding the Air Canada 747-133s, here is the latest
info.  FIN305 (C-FTOE) attempted to fly YYZ-YVR on Saturday morning
October     3rd, but blew #2 engine after takeoff and had to return to YYZ.
After an engine change, it went to the paint hangar and had the logo removed
from the tail and the titles and logo removed from the fuselage.
It ferried YYZ-YUL October 5th at 1500hrs.  It will have seats removed from
inside and be flown presumably to Marana Arizona.
All three 747-133s have been sold jointly to P&W engines and Evergreen Intl.
P&W will get all the engines after the aircraft are ferried to the desert,
and Evergreen will have the airframes.  We presume they will take off all
spare and usable parts, then eventually chop up the remains.
FIN304 (C-FTOD) is sitting at Montreal waiting its turn to be "un-painted"
and ferried south, while FIN303 (C-FTOC) will remain in service for another
week or two before being retired.
Brian Dunn           This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's travel tips.
July 1st 1999 will see the closing of the duty free shops at airports
within the European Union of countries - stock up now!

Steve Charlton sends this -
Was in Barbados last weekend - interline rate for Hilton still
half-price at "only" $135US. I understand that this winter is the last
before the hotel is completely demolished and rebuilt, targetted for
opening winter 2000-2001. Obviously closed for next winter (1999-2000)
Steve        This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Kenya Safaris
Ex Nairobi - Land only full board
2 nights Game parks Ambroseli & Tsavo West               UKP215 pp
Masai Mara                           UKP179 pp
Ambroseli                            UKP199 pp
3 nights Game parks Rift Valley & Masai Mara             UKP255 pp
Samburu & Aberdares                  UKP249 pp
4 nights Game parks Aberdares, Rift, Masai               UKP389 pp
5 nights Game parks Amboseli, Tsavo, Masai & Lake Nakuru UKP475 pp
Overnight accommodation in Nairobi Panafric Hotel UKP25 pp per night B&B
Contact Touchdown in the UK 1293-425000

Non smoking B & B at Kettlewell, Nr Skipton, North Yorkshire, UK offering
10% discount for Air Canada retirees off normal rate UKP25.00 pp per night.
Includes full English breakfast, based on 2 sharing a double or twin room
all en-suite with tea/coffee making facilities.
Contact the UK 1756-760378.

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. Smilie.
Alan Rust sends this (with tongue in cheek!)-
Air Canada IT has defined a lower cost alternative for computer
conversions that also addresses the Y2K (Year 2000) issue:
Subject: Y2K SOLUTION!

Rumour has it that there is no longer any need for network or software
applications support. (See below) The goal is to remove all computers from
the desktop by Jan, 1999. Instead, everyone will be provided with an
Etch-A-Sketch.
There are many sound reasons for doing this:
1. No Y2K problems
2. No technical glitches keeping work from being done.
3. No more wasted time reading and writing mails.
Frequently Asked Questions for Etch-A-Sketch Technical Support
Q: My Etch-A-Sketch has all of these funny little lines all over the screen.
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: How do I turn my Etch-A-Sketch off?
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: What's the shortcut for Undo?
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: How do I create a New Document window?
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: How do I set the background and foreground to the same color?
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: What is the proper procedure for rebooting my Etch-A-Sketch?
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: How do I delete a document on my Etch-A-Sketch?
A: Pick it up and shake it.
Q: How do I save my Etch-A-Sketch document?
A: Don't shake it.
(Vesta's comment -  No doubt MicroSoft is already studying this.
I'll bet they buy the company.)

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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