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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between

number 321   date Oct 21st, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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. Need to know.
Effective October  31st, 1998 the Canadian Air Transportation Tax (ATT) of
4% + $3.00 will no longer be collected.
(Rats! - and I plan to travel on Oct 31st to Boston!!!! your Co-pilot)

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. Welcome to -
Lynn Cockrill retired Customer Service Manager lives in Delta, BC.
email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Jack Cunningham retired Captain living in Mississauga, Ont.
email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Jim McConnell retired pilot in Oakville Ont.
email Jim at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
Been trying to get through to Jack and Elizabeth McDougall?
They have a new email address which is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. R-A-D-A-R
From the ‘Between Ourselves’ November 1945 edition. (Edited)
In 1945 - yes 1945! Gord Hykle submitted an article regarding  RADAR.
A lot of water  has passed under the bridge since then, bear in mind this
is 1945 -
Now that the veil of secrecy has been partially lifted, we feel that the
staff of the Winnipeg Radar Station should begin to make itself heard.
Installed this summer at Stevenson Field for experimental purposes, this
station is manned by four operators and two technicians. The operators are
drawn from various stations:
Gord McKen from Kapuskasing, Harvey Lesage from Montreal, Les MacMillan from
Winnipeg (Len operated Radar overseas with the RCAF and has just finished
the company’s Radio Operating Course here) and myself, Gord Hykle rooted
up from Armstrong.
Technician Walt Cole of Communications and Corporal Art Warner of the RCAF
give us the best maintenance upkeep.
Although no flights roll up to our ramp and no passengers keep our
telephone busy, we have certain things in common with other Company stations.
For instance, that trek across the airport to our hut every day, coupled
with a nearby panorama of grazing cows, definitely puts us into the ‘bush
station’ category.
Due to the fact that we work around voltages ranging up to 20,000 and
radio tubes that are as lethal as elephant guns if accidentally broken, an
operator is never left alone for very long on shift.
Work consists of spotting aircraft and logging their flights to and from
the field, practicing ‘let downs’ with Company aircraft and mapping weather.
A thrill that everyone connected with airline operating would experience as
we do every day, is that of talking to an aircraft while watching its every
move with Radar. Or again, we can accurately estimate the time when a rain
shower will be over the station, or better still, direct the movement of an
unseen aircraft by means of our set and the remote control transmitter
handset installed here.
So far, our work has been in its experimental stages, but in several
instances our aid to airways traffic control and our own flights has been
along practical lines. It doesn’t take a great imagination to foresee what
we will be able to accomplish in the near future if we can do these things
with present day Radar.
Our staff was chosen to give the station maximum correlation between Radar
technique and airline operation. Len, with his four years of experience in
the Radar field, and Harvey having just completed a course at Clinton in the
same line, satisfy the former qualifications, and Gord and myself who have
had considerable experience in many types of stations on the line complete
the team.
This set-up has worked very well and we hope that when Radar  is applied to
the airline this will be a model of the system to be employed.
Gord Hykle   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Remember when?

Kitch Olson has kindly made available his copies of old 'Between Ourselves'
magazine, here are some headlines from 1966 -

First scheduled DC-9 flight into Tampa was Jun 1st 1966. 
First scheduled flight Toronto to Chicago was a DC-3 on July 1st 1966.
May 1966 was the inaugural DC-8 'Western Arrow' to LHR Capt's
Dunsmore, Richard and Cockroft presiding.
Inaugural DC-9 flight to Miami Aug 1st 1966 by Capt's Leek and Gale.
Oct. 30th 1966 was the first DC-8 scheduled into Miami.
Nov 1st 1966 inaugural DC-8 to Copenhagen/Moscow with Capt. W.R.Bell,
Stewardesses G.Vilstboll and V. Bjolseth. Recipricol service same day
by Aeroflot Tupulov TU-114 registration CCCP-76490.
Nov 1st 1946 TCA DC-3 service Victoria to Seattle inaugurated the first
flight between the B.C. capital and the American city.
Sept 16th 1946 TCA Lancaster landed at LHR from Prestwick which
marked the start of regular service from Canada to London, England.

Sept 1966 saw a 'Seat Selection System Simplified', the system was
expected to cut to a minimum the length of time required for an agent
to set up a flight for seat selection and also to cut down on the cost
involved when a seating configuration change takes place.
The old system used a silk screened on plastic boards which had to be
replaced or modified with each aircraft affected. In the new method,
the aircraft seating arrangements are printed on 2 cards, one for the
front and the other for the rear of the aircraft. The seat stickers are
part of the card, and are perforated all around except for a piece at the
top and the bottom to act as a hinge.
'Between Ourselves' carried two articles each month -
'Pension Pointers' and 'I have a question!'

Deja vu!
After the 12 day strike of the IAM ended on Nov 27th, 1966 the company
instituted a seat sale to LHR, Yul $234, YYZ $255, YWG $281, YYC $305
and $339 from YVR.

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. News from the Districts.
Dreams Take Flight.
Re DTF ex Halifax Oct 7, a B767 delivered 118 children to a
long-but-highly-successful day at WDW.
Among Pionairs on hand to assist the departure ex Halifax were Phil Helms,
Mitch Mitchell, and Cathy McCann. I'm sure there were others as well, but
these are the only names I have at this point.
Pionair Ben Blotnicky was, as in every year, a key figure in organizing the
Halifax DTF.
Cheers, Keith   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Subject: Re: YYZ Pionairs Christmas Party
YYZ Xmas lunch is Dec. 6/98 at The Old Mill 21 Mill Rd.  $29.00 per
person  Bar 11:00 a.m.  Lunch 12:30 p.m.  Deadline Nov. 21/98.
Non perishable food items requested for the Food Bank.
Forward payment by cheque to Pionairs in Trust
c/o Ena Burke  159 Stephens Dr. #104,  Toronto, ON  M8Y 3N5.
Free parking behind the Old Mill
Mary & Olie Moore  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's travel tips.

Aukland provides duty free facilities and have generous allowances
for arriving visitors.

Visiting Tanzania you need a passport, visa and yellow fever certificates.

From Russia's Zhukovsky Airfield fly at mach 2.5 with a Russian test
pilot in a MiG-25 Foxbat at 70,000 feet. Check web site at
http://www.spaceadventure.com

Special airfares for Interliners -
Iberia Airlines FanFare
These fares are space available round trip in us$
New York or Miami to Madrid:
Employee, spouse, dependent children under 21   $150
children under 2     $75
Parents of employees, retirees, spouses         $200
Los Angeles to Madrid:
Employee, spouse, dependent children under 21   $250
children under 2     $75
Parents of employees, retirees, spouses         $300
Add on fares between Madrid and other destinations varies from
$25 ow, $50 rt - Alicante, Barcelona, Bilbao, Malaga, Seville,
Valencia, Palma de Mallorca
$40 ow, $80 rt - Gran Canaria, Tenerif
$70 ow, $140 rt - Cairo, Dakar, Instanbul, Malabo, Tel Aviv
$60 ow, $120 rt - Most of Europe.
Contact Iberia, Sales Dept. 655 Madison Ave, Floor 20th, New York,
NY 10021 USA

Canadian interline Travel to take advantage of this special rate.
Only $38.39us per day! November 2/98 from New York to Ft Lauderdale
Inside Cabin $499us - Ocean View $599us
Veendam - November 2/98 - 13 Nights
Itinerary: New York, Half Moon Cay, Bahamas (conditions permitting),
St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands, Willenstad, Curaçao,
St. Croix, US Virgin Islands, San Juan, Puerto Rico,
Nassau, Bahamas, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Optional 7 night Resort Stay in Ft Lauderdale $125us
Call  1-800-665-3100!!! and mention Pionairs.

Dargal Interline Cruise and Tours -
Check out these terrific prices on the Zenith with Celebrity through
the Panama Canal!
Great selection of cabins -- going fast!
1.    10 Nights - January 8, 1999 or February 19, 1999
Inside $664.50, Outside $964.50
Acapulco, Huatulco, At Sea, Puerto Caldera, At Sea, Panama Canal,
Cartagena, Aruba, At Sea, St. Thomas, San Juan

2.    11 nights - February 8, 1999 or March 1, 1999
Inside $708.50, Outside $1008.50
San Juan, St. Thomas, Curacao, Aruba, Cartagena, Panama Canal,
At Sea (2days), Puerto Caldera, At Sea, Huatulco, Acapulco

3.    10 nights - March 12, 1999
Inside $664.50, Outside $1014.50
Acapulco, Huatulco, At Sea, Puerto Caldera, At Sea, Panama Canal,
Cartagena, At Sea, Grand Cayman, At Sea, Fort Lauderdale

4.    11 nights - March 22, 1999
Inside $708.50, Outside $958.50
Fort Lauderdale, At Sea, Cozumel, At Sea, Cartagena, Panama Canal,
At Sea, Puerto Caldera, At Sea, Huatulco, Acapulco

5.    15 nights - April 2, 1999
Inside $531.50, Outside $679.50
Acapulco, Huatulco, At Sea, Puerto Caldera, At Sea, Panama Canal,
Cartagena, At Sea, Grand Cayman, Cozumel, At Sea, Fort Lauderdale,
Cape Canaveral, At sea (2days), New York

6.    8 nights - October 23, 1998
Inside $624, Outside $774
New York, At Sea (3 days) Antigua, St. Maarten, St. Croix,
St. Thomas, San Juan

Port and Gov't fees extra.
All prices are quoted in US$ pp/dbl, subject to availability,
new bookings only.
Call 1-800-690-3223 and mention Pionairs.

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. Smilie.

Commandments of Helicopter Flying.

1. He who inspecteth not his aircraft giveth his angels cause to
concern him.
2. Hallowed is thy airflow across thy disc restoring thine
Translational Lift.
3. Let infinite discretion govern thy movement near the ground,
for vast is the area of destruction.
4. Blessed is he who strives to retain his standards, for
without them he shall surely perish.
5. Thou shalt maintain thy speed whilst between ten and four hundred
feet lest the earth rise and smite thee.
6. Thou shall not make trial of thy centre of gravity lest thou
dash thy foot against a stone.
7. Thou shalt not let thy confidence exceed thy ability, for broad
is the way to destruction.
8. He that doeth his approach and alloweth the wind to turn behind
him shall surely make restitution.
9. He who alloweth his tail rotor to catch in the thorns curseth
his childrens children.
10. Observe thou this parable lest on the morrow thy friends mourn thee.

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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