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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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number 339   date Jan 17th, 1999  1st Published in October 1995

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. We welcome -
Roger & Lorraine Tremblay who can be contacted
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François Dubord retired Spécialiste en Avionique and lives in Laval, Qc
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Joe Angelus retired Manager, Financial Services and living in Montreal, Qc
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Dave Stevens retired CS & S Rep lives in Burlington On.
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W.B. Shearer retired Support co-ordinator lives in Craigleith, On
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Bob Gordon lives in Oakville On retired Capt. B747-400
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Rolf Edelsward lives in North York On retired mechanic
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The New "A-Crew" WWW Site
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As most of you already know, the "Pionairs" site has been discontinued and
replaced by an all encompassing "A-Crew" site. A-Crew stands for "Air Canada
Retired Employees Website", you no longer have to be a "Pionair" to access the
"members" area, but we do require you to be an AC retiree.This, our "brother"
site, is filled with news, pictures and events pertaining to all retirees. Your
Webmasters are Tom Grant and his wife Julie. See: http://www.acra.ca/acrew

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. Diane Carignan, Staff  Writer -- Employee Communications with Air Canada,
has joined our readership, and sends us this information -

- Please note -- on January 20, Air Canada will introduce new
flight close-out times: 15 minutes for Rapidair and 20 minutes
for all other flights. The new times will give Gate Agents from
five to 10 minutes extra to complete last minute critical tasks
and respond to customer needs prior to flight departure.

- C1/Y10 passes are on their way to the following retired
employees who participated in Air Canada's annual Campaign for
Funds: Allan Keough, Johannes Sigurdson, Pierre De Verteuil,
Arthur Mills and William Watson.

- Employees are invited to attend the 'Farewell to the Classics'
party in Toronto on January 19, in the crew check hangar (Bay 6)
on Airport Road near the Simulator building. From 2:00-4:00,
reminisce and say goodbye to the flying beauties, meet the last
crew assigned to the Classics, listen to a few words from Vice
President Flight Operations, Captain Rob Giguere, and enjoy a cup
of coffee and a slice of 'Classic' cake. A post-event is planned
for the Royal Canadian Legion, Malton Branch 528. 3263 Derry Road
East, Mississauga.

- The ACRA Photo Exhibition will take place May 1, in Montreal.
Active and retired employees and their dependents can enter their
photos in regional shows scheduled in Frankfurt (February 10),
Montreal (March 6), Saint John, N.B. (March 8), toronto (March
13), Vancouver (March 6), and Winnipeg (March 8).

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. The following from Ken Day -
Hi:
A few Netletters ago, Bill Norberg commented on North Star Communications.
Bill either has amazing recall or he took his files with him into
retirement-perhaps both.
In any case, you may wish to ask him about an event involving a North Star
Flt. to Bermuda. I believe the captain was commander Fred Beckett, the
navigator Gerry Chesley.

I am not aware of all the details-Bill may be but the gist of the tale is
the flight was flying on and on and on , homing on what was believed to be
the Bermuda Beacon. It became obvious there was a problem- a major one
potentially. It was determined that the beacon the flight was homing on was
in Puerto Rico. The flight turned around and ultimately landed at Kindley
Field, Bermuda. I understand that when they dipped the fuel tanks, the end
of the dip stick was dry. The moral perhaps being All's well that ends
well!  

Again, on the matter of North Star communications prompted by Bill Norberg.
On Trans-At flights getting from A to B and Cand D was a matter of many
hours and long duty days.

Lengthy flight legs in particular e.g. Gander-Prestwick involved regular
periodic position fixes determined by the navigator. Radio communication on
certain frequencies was often difficult or non-existent for periods
mid-atlantic. The net effect was periods of 'downtime' during the flight
for certain crew members.

Counted among crews operating trans-at were a number of amateur(ham) radio
operators. Strangely perhaps, two-way communication was often very good on
an amateur band. It was not unknown for  European stations to report strong
signals, which unknown to them were emanating from an aircraft in the
vicinity of 30W.
Ken Day   Auldis Day <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Al Hauff sends this message.
Hi from Guelph
I was amused by the Phil Pawsy experience with Guelph as I live next to
this airstrip. A few retired Air Canada pilots(which includes me by that
time) are planning a trip to the Yukon and Alaska with our own aircraft,
probably in 2000 but the trip could be delayed until 2001. Tentatively,
we plan to meet in Edmonton mid June, then fly to Whitehorse, then to
Dawson, then to Fairbanks, Anchorage, then back to Skagway, down the
coast via Juneau, Ketchikan, Prince Rupert, then back through Prince
George returning to Edmonton 9 days after leaving Edmonton. I would like
to hear from anyone who has done any flying along our proposed route, or
of any published books on flying in Alaska and the Yukon.
Al Hauff can be emailed at: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Brian Dunn sends us the following news -
Air Canada has withdrawn two more DC-9-32s from the fleet.
FLN741 CF-TMP and FLN742  CF-TMQ both made their last revenue flights near
the end of November to YUL and have been flown to Marana Arizona for
long-term storage.  The first aircraft (FLN742) went on the 14th Dec
from YUL to MZJ via Kansas City(MCI).
The second one, (FLN741) was ferried out on the 16th Dec via the
same routing.

Air Canada wil be retiring the remaining "classic" 747s in mid-January.
The last remaining 3-man cockpit aircraft make their last flights
January 10th and January 16th.  C-GAGA, C-GAGB and C-GAGC are
expected to be stored in the desert pending sale to another customer.
Air Canada is now planning to ferry 747-233B C-GAGA to Marana
Arizona on the 14th due to extra time required for sheet metal repairs
to the belly of the aircraft.  It had been involved in a towing accident
on January 9th.

Air Canada will commence a new non-stop Toronto-Copenhagen service
effective May 1, 1999 with five 767s per week.  The flights will be
code-shared with Star Alliance partner SAS.

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. News from the Districts.
Dan Hancock sends this -
Subject: YVR Pionairs District Spring Luncheon 1999
HI YALLL!    HAPPY NEW YEAR AND EVERY SUCCESS IN 99
Date             March 28,1999
Place            Quilchena Golf and Country Club
Address          3551 Granville Ave Richmond BC (west of # 1 Road)
Time             1130-1230 No Host Bar Meet and Greet
1230-1430 Buffet Luncheon, Speaker(s), Prize draws etc.
Price            $17.50. per person (inc Tax & Gratuity)
Reservations     Must be made in advance.
Forward cheque to attn Don Hancock in trust
# 11 - 5531 Cornwall Dr. Richmond BC V7C 5N7
Telephone 231-0359.
(Cheques may be post dated to March 15/99).
Regards Don Hancock This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Y2K!
China offers a lofty solution -
China has given its airlines the ultimate incentive to get ready for the
Year 2000 computer bug by ordreing airline chiefs to personally board
flights next New Year's Day. All the haeds of the airlines have got to be
in the air on Jan 1, 2000 says a ministry of information handling the
Y2K problem.

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. Terry's travel tips.
South America Interline Sale
Canadian interline Travel
Holland America Line - ms Noordam
16 night, Rio de Janeiro to Valparaiso sailing on (19/Feb/99).
Inside cabin: $1214usd plus port taxes of $285usd per person
Outside cabin: $1414usd plus port taxes of $285usd per person

16 night, Rio de Janeiro to Ft. Lauderdale sailing on (23/Mar/99).
Inside cabin: $999usd plus port taxes of $200usd per person
Outside cabin: $1199usd plus port taxes of $200usd per person

AMAZON / CARNIVAL - 15 NIGHT - JAN 31-FEB 15/99
Royal Olympic - Stella Solaris
Ocean View - $1125.usd plus port taxes of $200usd per person
Call Canadian interline Travel to take advantage of these
special rates at 1-800-665-3100!!! and mention Pionairs

Want to visit the playground of the British Prime Minister Tony Blair?
Interline air fare Gatwick to Mahe in the Sechelles is from GBP179 return
Flights leave Wednesday and Sundays return Saturdays and Tuesdays.
3 nights B&B at the Auberge Club des Seychelles is GBP115 pp
3 nights at the Berjaya Mahe Beach Resort is GBP99 pp.
3 nights at the Berjaya Beau Vallon Bay beach & Casino resort is GBP125 pp
3 nights B&BG at the Sun Resort Hotel is GBP135 pp
3 nights B&B at the Coral Strand Hotel is GBP149 pp.
Internal flight Mahe to Praslin return is GBP45 pp
3 nights at the Berjaya Praslin Beach Resort is GBP95 pp
3 nights B&B at the Hotel Acajou is GBP139 pp.
Call in the UK 01293-425000 or fax 0870-900-2019 for details

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. Smilie.

From our "ATC phraseology not covered in FAA Order 7110.65" file:
Cessna: "Van Nuys Ground, Cessna 2467 Sierra, how do you read?"
Ground: "On about a twelfth-grade level."
(Followed by laughter in the background.)

David Edward sent us this -

On a People's Express flight back during the heyday of that no-frills
airline.  Two Flight Attendants were tag-teaming the pre-flight safety talk
and one says, "In the event of a loss of cabin pressure, a door over your
head will open and a mask will drop down."  The other attendant then chimed
in, "Just insert a quarter, and oxygen will begin flowing..."

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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