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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between

number 352   date Mar 27th, 1999  1st Published in October 1995

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. We welcome -

Ronald DuBreuil Email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired captain living
Oakville, On
Harold Nelson Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired captain
living in Richmond, BC
John  H. K. Nener Email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired captain living
Pleasantville, Nova Scotia
John Ohlsson Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired Director lives in
Gloucester, On
Bernie Brennan retired captain lives in Grand Valley, ON
email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. will find  Ellerington 'Ellie' Park retired
captain lives Westbank, BC
Michael Vasil Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired captain living in
Mississauga, On
Gary Walters Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired captain living in
Surrey, BC
Donald Roland Quistberg retired captain living in White Rock, BC
Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
The email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. will find Joan M. Richards
Widow of Capt. Frank Richards. Joan lives in Brighton, On
George McKay email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired pilot living in
Baysville On
Doug & Kathy Olson living in Calgary. Cathy is still with Air Canada
and is the Admin Asst to the General Manager for Calgary and
Edmonton airports.  email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


(With all these captains retiring, we hope that Air Canada is not
becoming too reliant on the automatic pilot facility! - eds)

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. Where are they now.
Gary Anderson has changed his email. Try This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. What's on today and Where is it?
Compiled by Vesta -
Thursday  April 1, 1999           
Dorval C&SS retirees monthly lunch Peter's Cape Cod restaurant
Winnipeg Retirement Club Royal Canadian Legion meeting at 1:30pm
Friday  April 2, 1999            
Ottawa, Pionair KoffeeKlatsches at 10 am,
Family  Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Monday  April 5, 1999        
Halifax Pionairs Bowling 1pm monthly Bayers Bowloramas
Tuesday  April 6, 1999            
Edmonton Pionairs Coffee & Chat - Smitty's Lounge,
Kingsway Garden Mall 10 am
Kelowna and Vernon Pionairs monthly 10am Coffee&Chat at Muffin Break.
Montreal Pionairs Bowling league at Valois Bowling 62 Donegani, Pte C.
Mary Timmons 514-626-3263
Penticton monthly Coffee&Chat at 10am at Tim Hortons,
Cherry Lane Shopping Mall
Toronto T2 Coffee Klatch,1st Tues monthly, Pearson Airport sales  
retirees at 11am Golden Griddle, 5559 Airport Rd, on airport
strip, free parking, monthly raffle for dinner at
host restaurant. Contact Sheila Moscoe This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Wednesday  April 7, 1999          
Halifax monthly lunch at Armdale Yacht Club
St Catherine Pionairs & other AC Retirees meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Vancouver Island Pionairs Spring Lunch, Princess Marys Restaurant,
Victoria at 11:30am
Thursday  April 8, 1999           
Calgary Pionairs City Tour more information will be available
closer to departure date Adele Wallace This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Friday  April 9, 1999             
Ottawa, Pionair KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10 am,
Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping

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. John Hayes sends this -
Subject: Second-hand cabin air-another voice
Re Vesta's concern (Netletter #346) over  recirculated cabin air, also
addressed by the British Sunday Times, is further echoed in a recent
letter by former Captain William Heller. Captain Heller between 1945 and
retirement flew the new DC-6 across the Pacific.
"We had," he says,  "the first pressurized airline equipment on the
Pacific and replaced our air supply constantly. It took 3 min, to free
the cabin of the air just breathed".
"Today's airlines brought on by the fuel crisis of some years ago, are
forced to economize. One way was to begin recirculating the compressed
air brought in from the outside ambient source and decrease fuel
consumption. Recirculation redistributes foul or germ-filled air that
already has been breathed. Passenger comfort can be improved greatly by
ending recirculation".
"To recover the cost", Captain Heller concludes, "let airlines curtail
or discontinue those ridiculous "frequent flier" programs except for
frequent fliers".                  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Remember when?
From the November 14th 1975 issue of 'Horizons', loaned by Kitch Olson -
Deja vu?
The headline 'Carry-on baggage - A major airline problem' an article
by Dave Williams, Manager Airport Passenger Service tells us about
this problem and that 'All Canadian airlines have agreed to take a more
consistent approach in enforcing MOT regulations'
(24 years later this problem still seems to be with us! - eds)

and from the September 16th 1977 edition of the 'Horizons' -
'Instructions to Hostesses (May 1930)'
1) Warn passengers against throwing cigarettes and cigars out the window.
2) Keep the clock wound up in the passenger cabin.
3) Carry a railroad timetable in case the plane is grounded.
4) Keep an eye on passengers when they go to the toilet to be sure they
don't mistakenly go out the emergency exit.

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. News from the districts.
From the newly formed Cape Breton district -
The executive is made up of President   - Murray Wadden
1st V.P.    - Hubert MacKeigan
2nd V.P.    - Cy Wagner
Sect-Treas  - Frank Jones.
The Pionairs system golf tourney being held June 21/22nd at
Bell Bay, Baddeck, Cape Breton, N.S.  presently has 82 listed with
59 of them as golfers. We are planning for about 200 persons for the
Monday night Ceilidh and 150 for golf. It is shaping up to be a great
tournament, so get your applications as soon as possible.
Thanks Frank               This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.
CONCORDE REACHES THE BIG 3-0:
The fastest passenger jet in the skies had something to celebrate recently
but the party may be short-lived.  On March 2, the pointy-nosed bird turned
30 after logging more than 900,000 flying hours, two-thirds of them above
the speed of sound.  The Concorde is caught in a U.S.-European Union dispute
over environmental controls and could be banned from the U.S.

IS IT MY IMAGINATION, OR IS IT A LITTLE BREEZY IN HERE?
A window in business class recently blew out of a South African Airways
Boeing 747-200 while the jumbo was between Johannesburg and Frankfurt.
The window let go at 11,000 feet and the crew dumped fuel before returning
for a safe landing at Johannesburg International Airport.  None of the 301
pax were injured, beyond maybe looking like they were having a really
bad hair day.

ELECTRA SCRAPES BY AT SHANNON:
A landing incident in early March involved a Lockheed L-188 Electra at
Ireland's Shannon Airport.  The Electra's crew was asked to expedite the
landing and forgot the gear. Three props contacted the runway.
With only one engine producing full power and the plane vibrating badly,
the crew managed a go-around and landed safely, this time gear-down.


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. Terry's travel tips.
Following request from Yvonne & Bill Robson -
Subject: Efficiencies in London England
My husband and I will be visiting London, England for a few days.
Does anyone know of a reasonable efficiency apt. or inexpensive hotels in
the central core?  Thank you for any help you can provide.
Yvonne and Bill Robson "Yvonne Davies-Robson" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
(If anyone has any details if you would copy the NetLetter we will pass
the                 information on to our readers - eds)

Riverboat Trip to see the famous annual fireworks on the Rhine River
Rhein in Flammen arranged by ACRA.
- Boat departs Frankfurt (Eiserner Steg)
- Saturday, August 14, 1999 at 01:00 pm
- Tour leads up the Main to the Rhine all the way to St. Goarshausen where
you can see the famous fireworks from the boat.
- Return trip is by bus, back in Frankfurt around 04:00 am
- Ticket Price (boat/bus trip only) DM 89,-- per person (about $75 CAD)
- Since we have to actually buy the tickets end of March, there will be no
refunds or cancellations.
- Assistance is offered for ACRA members from Canada with hotel
reservations if required.
- Please register with Gerda Methfessel (Phone +4969-27115224) or via
e-mail This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. by March 31, 1999, at the latest.


Subject: The mysteries of the Orient
Both aboard the luxurious Nieuw Amsterdam.
Combine these cruises for the journey of a lifetime.
April 26 ~ 14 Days ~ Hong Kong to Osaka
Hong Kong, 2 days at sea, Shanghai (Suzhou and Wuxi tour options)
Cruise Yangtze River, at sea, Xingang (Beijing, Great Wall
and Ming Tombs tour options), Dalian, at sea, Pusan/South Korea,
Kagoshima/Japan, Cruise Inland Sea of Japan, Osaka
Inside $854, Outside $1054
May 10 ~ 11 Days ~ Osaka to Vancouver
Relive the elegance of the great maritime eras.
Cross the Pacific Ocean on the Great Circle Route and
cross the International dateline while enjoying the peace and
solitude in superb surroundings or join in the full schedule of
shipboard activities and events.
Outside $550
All rates US$ pp/dbl, subject to availability and eligibility.
New Bookings Only. Port charges/Gov't fees additional.
Contact DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223

Upcoming events for WACA - World Airlines Clubs Association -
Kenya Safari - May 15th - May 19th. Hosted by Nairobi Interline Club -
Package A - Safari cost us$430 per person double.
May 15th - Transfer from Jomo Kenyatta airport
Welcome dinner, overnight in Landmark Hotel.
16th - Breakfast, lunch, game drive and dinner and
overnight Mara Sopa Lodge.
17th - Game drives, meals and overnight Mara Sopa Lodge.
18th - Breakfast, transfer to Nairobi, farewell dinner
Toona Tree restaurant, overnight Landmark Hotel.
19th - Depart Jomo Kenyatta airport.
Optional -       
Package B - Coast extention cost us$220 per person double.
May 19th thru May 22nd.
DEADLINE for reserving is April 10th.
Wine & Horse Riding Festival - Jun 24/27th your hosts Hungarian Interline.
Cost us$200 pp and includes: 3 nights accommodations with breakfast,
Welcome reception with buffet dinner,
Budapest sightseeing tour, 2 lunches,
Full day excursion to Hungarian Pusztn,
Danube cruise with a drink. Closing dinner.
DEADLINE for reserving is April 15th, Limited space -
first come first served.
Cedarland Tour - May 4th - May 10th, hosted by Lebanon Interline Club.
Cost us$600 pp double occupancy. Includes 5 nights accommodation,
5 breakfasts, 4 lunches during tours,
3 dinners with open bar - show and
transportation, 4 full day tours,
entrance and guide fees and a welcome
drink upon arrival.
Note: Transit or entry visa to Lebanon can be issued, upon arrival at
Beirut, to nationals of, amongst others, Canada, USA, UK,
most European countries, Japan and Australia.
Note: Middle East Airlines, the National carrier of Lebanon will offer
tickets to all interliners joining this event. ID00N2-Y priority.
DEADLINE for reserving is April 10th.
Contact your nearest Interline club or WACA (514)874-0202 for details.

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. Smilie.
Pilot:  Montgomery County radio, could you give us the current weather
at College Station?
FSS:  Currently they're carrying a 500-foot broken ceiling, winds out of
the northeast at 10 to 15, visibility 8, and the altimeter 29.85.
Pilot:  Copy that.  Is that 500-foot ceiling due to clouds?

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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