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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acra.ca/between

number 356   date Apr 10th, 1999  1st Published in October 1995

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. Check in with the web site http://www.acra.ca if you are an ACRA member
http://www.acra.ca/acrew if your are a retiree.

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. We welcome -
Edmond Marsan retired Director, Corporate Taxes lives in
Beauharnois Qc. email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Len  Kruller retired from YUL in 1982 and relocated to California,
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Murray Lunt retired captain lives in Williamstown, On
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John Jeffrey retired General Manager Edmonton living in Sidney, BC
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Al Kurys who worked in YUL C & SS and now retired. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Need to know -
Canadian Airlines -
50% ID
Minimum fares for one-way or return travel:
$25.00 OW & $50.00 RTN North American flights EXCEPT Hawaii
$100.00 OW & RTN International flights including Hawaii and
Caribbean.
$200.00 Business Class.                                       

The following flights are included in this agreement:
CANADIAN REGIONAL AIRLINES - CP1100 TO 1399, CP1850 TO 2199
INTER CANADIEN             - CP2200 TO 2399
RESTRICTIONS:
CP0430 - 0499, CP1090 - 1099, CP1700 - 1899, CP2550 - 6499

Code sharing flights do NOT apply to this agreement
flight series 6000 and the following routes:
- SAO-RIO-BUE-SCL, HNL-NAN-SYD-AKL, YYZ-TPE (DAY 6 ONLY)

ZED fares -
ELIGIBILITY:
Eligibility is negotiated between airlines. They may not all
hold the same eligibilites. All eligible use ZZ fares.

Active employees of Air Canada with 6 months service
and retired employees, and their spouse,
dependent children of the above, under 24 years of age,
common-law spouse and same-sex common-law spouse.
Parents of single and married employees.

The following flights are included in this agreement:
Canadian Regional Airlines -
CP1100 TO 1399, CP1850 TO 2199, CP2200 TO 2399
RESTRICTIONS: CP0430 - 0499, CP1090 - 1099, CP1700 - 1899, CP2550 - 6499

ZZ FARES IN USD

MILEAGE      (ZZ)
ZONE 1      1 - 450       21
ZONE 2    451 - 750       28                                 
ZONE 3    751 - 1600      33                                  
ZONE 4   1601 - 3200      48                                  
ZONE 5   3201 - 4080      55                                  
ZONE 6   4081 - 5000      65     
ZONE 7   5001 - 6100      70                                  
ZONE 8   6101 - 9000      78                                  

FARES ARE ASSESSED ON A ONE-WAY BASIS

VALID ONLY FOR 120 DAYS FROM ISSUE

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. Remember when?
From the 'Between Ourselves' 1968 edition loaned courtesy of Kitch Olson -
November -
On October 15th 1968, CF-TCA, the company's first aircraft a Lockheed 10A
made its final flight from Montreal, where it had been restored by
employees, to Ottawa International Airport, piloted by Herb Seagrim
and Al Ross, where it was handed over to the National Aviation Museum.

October 26th 1968 saw the last Vanguard service depart from Kingston,
Jamaica to Toronto. Capt. H.Holland and Capt. E.E.Jones piloted the
last arrival.

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. News from the districts.
From the London England monthly newsletter -
The upcoming visit to Vancouver, dubbed Viva Vancouver, is planned for
September 29/30th. Accommodations will be at the Travelodge Hotel Vancouver
Airport. Approximately 55 Pionairs and friends will make up this party,
an annual event which has visited Nice, Boston, Ottawa, Quebec City,
Toronto, Edmonton and Calgary in past years.

The UK group of Travel Lodge Hotels have increased there room rate to
GBP39.95 for Fri/Sat/Sun, the rest of the week remains at GBP38.00.
The discount for members is 20%.

The Inside Flyer magazine of Continental Airlines has received the
following suggestions from 'helpful' customers -
Glass-bottomed aircraft for better viewing.
Roll-down windows so passengers can feel the breeze.
Sound-proof children's sections.

Upcoming events -
May 10th - UK Pionairs AGM at Radius Park 11.00am.
May 18th - Theatre visit 'Mamma Mia' with ACRA.
May/June - Planning a lunch cruise on the canal from West Drayton.
Jul/Aug  - Planning visit to R.A.F.Uxbridge site of WWII operations.
Sept     - Evening tour of London.
Sep 29/30 - Viva Vancouver.

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. Found on the internet.

AIR CANADA has reached a tentative agreement with it's 4,000 ticket agents.
The CAW Union said the deal contains a 12% wage increase over 3 years plus
gains on pensions, rest periods and health benefits.
The Flight Attendants (CUPE) will meet with the company Apr 19th in a
last attempt for an agreement before filing for conciliation.
the IAMAW representing 6,000 workers start talks to replace a contract
which ends this summer.


AND YOU THOUGHT AIRLINERS WERE CROWDED NOW!
Be prepared to fight for overhead luggage space well into the 21st
century.  DOT Secretary Rodney Slater last week said that the nation's
air carrier growth trend will continue into 2010, when the number of air
travelers could reach almost one billion.  Slater's remarks came during
the FAA's annual commercial aviation forecast conference.

KIWI INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY...
Like the flightless New Zealand bird of the same name, discount carrier
Kiwi Airlines last week was forced to ground its fleet.  Tuesday, Kiwi
filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, laying groundwork for a possible
takeover by Pan Am, after a net loss of $20.6 million in 1998 and an
unpaid debt of $750,000 at airports from which it operates.  One Kiwi
pilot said that he was not surprised: "The biggest problem is we were
undercapitalized from day one..."

STRENGTH IN NUMBERS?
Looks like the first steps toward a "Super Union"
of airline pilots were taken last week when representatives from eleven
airlines formed an international coalition.  The group includes pilots
from American, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Canadian Airlines,
Qantas, Japan Airlines, Aerolineas Argentinas, Iberia, Lan Chile and LOT
Polish Airlines, with Finnair expected to join later this year.

AUSTRALIAN PRISON BREAK FEATURES COMMANDEERED CHOPPER:
Why spend months digging a tunnel when you can take the direct route for a
prison break?
Just like in a Charles Bronson movie, Australian con John Killick jumped
on a commandeered chopper that landed at Sydney's Silverwater prison.  A
woman hired the helicopter but pulled a gun, ordering the pilot to land
in the prison.  The three then flew to a park in Sydney where Killick
and the woman drove off in a waiting car.

COME ON DOWN TO CRAZY EDDIE'S USED 727 LOT!
Delta Air Lines reached an agreement with United Technologies Corp. to
sell 119 Boeing 727-200 aircraft as they are retired over the next six years.
The agreement will result in the largest-ever used aircraft transaction.
UTC hopes to market the aircraft after freighter conversions.
So, if you're looking for a clean, used 727, stop by and kick the tires,
light the fires, and take these beauties for a spin -- we will not be
undersold!

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. Terry's travel tips.
Dargal Interline Cruises & Tours
The Panama Canal and Scandinavia/Russia
May 2 ~ 15 Nights ~ Celebrity Mercury ~ Westbound Trans-Canal
Ft. Lauderdale - Key West - Cozumel - Panama Canal - Puerto Caldera
Acapulco - Cabo San Lucas - San Diego - Los Angeles
Inside $1064

May 24 and June 6 ~ 13 Days ~ Royal Princess ~ Scandinavia/Russia
London - Oslo, Norway - Copenhagen, Denmark - Stockholm, Sweden
Helsinki, Finland - St. Petersburg, Russia - Tallinn, Estonia -
Gdansk, Poland - London
Outside $1049
All rates are US$ pp/db, subject to availability and eligibility.
Port charges/Govt fees additional.


Gone Fishing
Here are those very HOT fishing deals ( our catch of the day).
These are fantastic rates and you are likely familiar with our resorts.
Pionairs can find complete information on the resorts on Oak Bay's web site
at www.obmg.com.  They can only book Interline rates at DARGAL.
These are  HOT prices on selected dates. All prices in Canadian dollars.
New Bookings Only.
The M.V. Salmon Seeker - In majestic Kano Inlet  in the Queen Charlotte
Islands. All the amenities of a first class hotel. Fly in Fishing Packages
Include: Round trip air from Vancouver, double stateroom, all meals, wine
with dinner, tackle, bait, raingear, cruiser suites & professional catch
care featuring vacuum packing and flash freezing. Up to 10 hours of guided
fishing included per day.
May 21 - 3 Nts  -  Reg. $3135  NOW $2135!
May 24 - 4 Nts  -  Reg. $3334  NOW $2335!
May 28 - 3 Nts  -  Reg. $3135  NOW $2135!
May 31 - 4 Nts  -  Reg. $3335  NOW $2335

The M.V. Charlotte Princess  -  Queen Charlotte Islands - Superb fishing and
luxurious accommodation on this "floating 5-Star hotel". The Princess is
strategically located for trophy fishers looking for Pacific Coast salmon
and Halibut. Fly fishing? Yes - we have that too. Fly-in package includes
round trip air from Vancouver, double stateroom accommodation, all meals,
wine with dinner, unlimited use of boats, tackle, bait, raingear, cruiser
suites , cleaning and packaging of your catch.
May 13th Only - 3 Nts - Reg. $2935 NOW $1935

The Canadian Princess -  Fishing Action along the West Coast of Vancouver
Island. Stay aboard the permanently anchored mothership or in a deluxe room
on shore.  Don't fish? Never mind - this resort is ideal for an eco-vacation
amongst the rugged, unspoiled coast, Join a whale watching or nature cruise
or  world famous Long Beach at Pacific Rim National Park! Package includes
Round trip air from Vancouver  to the resort, Stateroom accommodation,
tackle, bait, raingear, fishing cleaning & packaging for transport home.
April 24 - 2 Nts/3 Days  Reg. $325  NOW $199!
April 25 - 2 Nts/3 days  Reg. $325  NOW $199!

For more information from Dargal on this and other specials -
contact them at:       1-800-690-3223

Canadian Interline -
Interline Greek Isles & Turkey
Royal Olympic Cruises

Stella Solaris - 7 Nights - May 14 & 21/99
Inside Cabin from us$499.00 per person double
Oceanview Cabin from us$599.00 per person double
Port Charges us$165.00 per person
Itinerary: Piraeus (Athens), Greece, Istanbul, Turkey   
Kusadasi (Ephessos), Turkey, Patmos, Greece
Mykonos, Greece, Rhodes, Greece, Heraklion (Crete), Greece
Santorini, Greece, Piraeus (Athens), Greece   
For Reservations Call 1-800-665-3100 Today!!

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.



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