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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mailing of this  "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust administrator of
the "AC Family Network" at: http://www.acfamily.net

number 364   date May 7th, 1999  1st Published in October 1995

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. Where are they now?
Doug Robinson has changed his ISP to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Karl Eliason has now moved to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
David Walker has now migrated to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. News from the districts.
MONTREAL -
John Gomes tells us that the Montreal Bowling wrapped up its season
on April 28th.

EDMONTON -
Shirley Jay sends this information -
The Edmonton Summer Barbecue will be held on August 11, 1999
4 p.m. to 8 p.m., at the Kinsmen River Valley Place.
It will feature Alberta beef tenderloin.  The cost is $12.00 per person.
The deadline for booking is August 3, 1999.
For confirmation, tickets or more information contact
Lorraine Horsley (780) 988 9074 or Shirley Jay (780) 436 0866.
Shirley Jay <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Visiting Pionairs most welcome.


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. Airliners International Toronto <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

Airliners International Toronto
Saturday, May 15, 1999
Royal Canadian Legion   
3263 Derry Road East
Malton ( 2 blocks east of Airport Rd )
10:00 AM - 3:00 PM
Come out and meet fellow enthusiasts!   Bring your airline
postcards, safety cards, slides, photos, models and any other
collectables you may wish to show, trade or sell!
Show Admission: Members: $3.00  Non  Members: $4.00
Come on out and join in the fun!!!  See you Saturday!!!
Airliners International Toronto <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Brian O'Hare sends this information -
If there are any retired AC employees residing in the Phoenix AZ area that,
has a "Green Card", and would like to work part-time/full time to obtain
health insurance or simply offset their golf fee charges, contact:
WorldWide Security in Phoenix at 800-440-0141 for a position at the
Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport at a Pre-Board Screener.....
Thanks Brian O'Hare Retired AC YYZ This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Bill Norberg has come through with another story -
Subject: Aircraft damage incidents and Bi-lingualism.
The recent issue of Horizons focused on the issue of Safety for employees
and airline equipment. This subject took me back to the late 1940's shortly
after we had received the first North Star aircraft.

The North Star aircraft were being maintained at the Dorval Base and the
main hangar being used for that purpose was Number 2. As has always been
the case ,when aircraft are being towed in or out of hangars there are two
wing men in addition to the man operating the towing vehicle. This if for
the obvious reason of ensuring the aircraft is not damaged by hitting the
side of the building or doors during the towing process. As the aircraft
were still of reasonable size in those days it was not necessary to have
walkie talkie communications between the driver and the wing men.

One day an aircraft was being towed out of # 2 hangar for engine run-up and
was being handled in the appropriate manner....two wing men in addition to
the tractor driver. As the aircraft moved slowly out of the hangar the wing
man on the right side(nearest the side of the hangar),began
shouting..."Arret...Arret!". The driver kept on towing and in no time the
right wing of the aircraft was crumpled by hitting the hangar wall.

Needless to say the tractor driver was shattered by what happened but
stoutly defended his actions.
When he was asked if he had heard the wing  man shouting, he said he had.
...."The man was saying...  alright...alright!"

Both men were doing what they understood to be the right thing.
Unfortunately it was in two different languages.
"Bill Norberg" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Found on the internet.

. On June 17th, 1974, an Air France Concorde departed Boston International
Airport for Paris. The take-off was timed to co-incide with the departure
of an Air France Boeing B747 from Paris to Boston. After landing in Paris,
the Concorde was refuelled in one hour 8 minutes and then headed back to
Boston, arriving 11 minutes ahead of the B747.
The age of supersonic travel had arrived!

Celtic Airways is planning a summer start-up with regional service in the
UK linking Sheffield, Teeside and Cork in Ireland.

Senior executives of British Airways have been ordered to take to the air
on New Years Eve to prove that the Y2K bug will not bring their aircraft
crashing down. BA's board agreed that the best way to convince passengers
the airline was safe if its top management were flying at the stroke
of midnight.

Robbers held up a Kenya Airways B737 as it landed at the airport in Lagos,
Nigeria by placing stones and logs to prevent the aircraft taxiing to the
terminal. The robbers then proceeded to open one of the forward cargo bays
and removed the luggage.

British Airways is to help passengers pay for their plane tickets by
offering them loans. The loans are available to passengers living in
the UK only and carry an interest rate of 15.9% and have to be
repaid within two years. The formula is targeted at holiday travellers
unable to afford air travel without a loan, according to British
Airways. The carrier is currently test-marketing the programme in
six of its British travel shops and will extend it to the 17 others if
successful.
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. Upcoming air shows -
May 22-23rd  -  Mirabel Montreal, QC Airshow.
May 29-30th  -  Gravenhurst, ON Muskoko International Air Show.
May 29-30th  -  Ottawa, ON National Capital Air Show.
Jun  5- 6th  -  London, ON Air Show.
Jun 26-27th  -  Miramichi, NB New Brunswick International Air Show.
Jul  2- 4th  -  Fort Erie, ON Friendship Festival Air Show.
Jul  6  8th  -  Calgary, AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc. Convention.
Jul 10-11th  -  CFB Moose Jaw, SK Open house and air show.
Jul 10-11th  -  Sarnia, ON Sarnia International Air Show.
Jul 17th     -  Kelowna, BC Air Display.
Jul 17-18th  -  Lazo, BC Comox Valley International Air Show.
Jul 20-21st  -  Fort St. John, BC Air Show 99
Jul 25th     -  Prince George, BC Air Show.
Jul 31st     -  North Bay Waterfront, ON Heritage Festival & Air Show.
Aug  6- 8th  -  Abbotsford, BC International Air Show.
Aug 14-15th  -  Saskatoon, SK Canada Remembers International Air Show.
Aug 28-29th  -  Sydney, NS Sydney Kinsman International Air Show.
Aug 28-29th  -  Thunder Bay, ON Thunder in the air Air Show.

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. Duane Frerichs sends this information on RAPCAN -

The Retired Airline Pilots of Canada (RAPCAN) is a non profit organization
whose purpose is to maintain and continue the close friendships and
associations of its members, to promote their general welfare and to assist
the transition of active pilots into retirement.
It's membership (presently 910) is restricted to retired air line pilots
who were members of CALPA, ALPA (C) and ACPA.
We accomplish the foregoing by;
-  having regular monthly luncheons in various locations, such as
Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria, Milton.
-  publishing a biannual membership, address, telephone/fax/e-mail
directory,
-  organizing and hosting an Annual Convention, which, this year will be
held in London, Ontario, from September 14th to 18th, 1999, and will be
held in Mainz, Germany, from September 13th to 17th, 2000.
-  publishing, three times a year, a Newsletter, and in 1998 we initiated
a regular RAPCAN Netletter which appears to serve an important contact
for the over two hundred members we presently have on e-mail.
Our membership dues are $35.00 per year in Canada, and $35.00 plus a $5.00
postage fee for those living outside of Canada.
For further information and/or an appplication form contact RAPCAN at
6 George Street South, Brampton,  ON, L6Y 1P3,
Phone/Fax  (905) 451-0197 or
E-mail:   RAPCAN <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> or Duane Frerichs <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
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. Terry's travel tips.

Visiting the Seychelles?
Seychelles International Airport is 10 kms south west of the captial
Victoria on the largest island Mahe.
Air France, Air Seychelles and British Airways provide services.
Wet season is January, dry season is July and August.
Average temperature in the 70's.
U.S. and Canadian citizens are issued a 30 day visa upon arrival when in
possession of their passport, an onward ticket and proof of reserved
accommodations.
Departure tax of us$40.00 in effect until Oct 31/99.
Effective November 1st 1999 visitors 12 years and over will have to purchase
the 'Gold Card' for us$100.00.
The 'Gold Card' will be the worlds 1st environmental tourist visa. 

In NetLetter nr 356 we mentioned rates for the Travel Lodge group in the
UK, Bob Muldoon has pointed out that this information refers to the
Travelinn group and that the members discount of 20% is only valid  for
Fri/Sat and Sun rates of GBP39.95 per room.
There is no special seniors  rate available.
Bob Muldoon  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

Getting to Frankfurt Airport or leaving Frankfurt Airport by regional
train is an attractive alternative. The airport railway station
is conveniently located directly under Terminal 1.
The Rhine-Main Regional Transit System (RMV) provides excellent connections
to/from Frankfurt and the surrounding Rhine-Main region by S-Bahn (commuter
train), RegionalExpress and StadtExpress (Town Express).
The S8 commuter line has intersections with every U-Bahn (Underground) and
commuter line, and with most trams and buses in Frankfurt, the main transfer
stations being Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof (main station), Hauptwache,
Konstablerwache and Frankfurt.
The average travel time between Frankfurt Airport and Frankfurt
central station (Hauptbahnhof) is approx. 11 minutes.
Tickets can be obtained from the blue ticket machines at the railway
stations and must be purchased before starting your journey.
Average prices.
from/to Frankfurt   DM 5.70
from/to Hanau       DM 9.80
from/to Wiesbaden   DM 5.70

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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