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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/

Mailing of this  "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust administrator of
the "AC Family Network" at: http://www.acfamily.net

number 365   date May 8th, 1999  1st Published in October 1995

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. We welcome -
Donna Harries lives in Toronto was with CS&SA email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Ron Clubb retired Manager Purchasing living in Winnipeg, Mn
email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
Kitch Olson has a new email, try This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
We previously announced that Carmen Lacharite was on email
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., actually that is the email for Onil Lacharite,
and his wife Carmen is on email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Need to know.
Linda Kwoon Coordinator, Industry Travel sends this message -

Regarding some clarifications on the recent
letter sent to all employees who RETIRED PRIOR TO 1992 and residing in
Quebec and all provinces in Central and Western Canada.  Some of them
might still be in possession of their old ID card (with a big letter R
in the middle of that card) as well as a separate travel card to
imprint tickets.

Our objective for this year is to issue a COMBINED ID photo and Travel
Card (photo on one side of the card and the embossed priority/length
of service on the other side).  The letter requested that they submit
a recent passport BLACK AND WHITE photo and their signature to be
provided on a signature form that was enclosed with their letter.

Although we are receiving many good black-and white photos and
acceptable signatures from the retirees, we are also getting numerous
telephone calls for information that was not mentioned in the letter.
The most repeated queries are:

-  Will my spouse also receive a new travel card?
-  Do you require a photo for my spouse as well?
-  Can I submit a coloured photo?
-  Where can I go to have a black-and white photo taken?

It should be clarified to the retirees that only those with 25 years of
service or more are eligible for the spousal card (this is applicable
for active employees as well).  We did not make any reference to the
spousal card in the letter because (1) not every retiree is eligible to
this card and (2) it is not necessary to reissue the spousal card at
this time.  Just as a reminder, a spousal card does not contain any
picture or signature.

While the letter clearly mentioned the need for a black-and-white
photo, we did not specify the reason that our system is unable to
scan coloured photos. We have noticed that many of the black-and-
white photos we are receiving are of acceptable standard and taken by
the CAA (Canadian Automobile Association).  We have also been advised
that this association is located in every major Canadian city.

And of course, those residing close to Dorval are welcome to come and
have their picture taken at Industry Travel, Air Canada Centre, 7373
Cote Vertu Road West, Room 4.31.  However, our camera is being
repaired and we expect it to be ready for picture taking by
month-end.

For your information, while we completed the production of these
combined ID and travel cards for retirees based in Atlantic Canada, we
expect to complete this project by year-end for all Canadian-based
retirees.  Although we mailed out 5,000 letters, many of them already
have in their possession their combined ID/Travel card and therefore
they should disregard the letter as instructed.

Thank you all for your cooperation for the success of this major
objective.

If I can be of assistance to you all, please do not hesitate to
contact via internet.  Linda Kwoon This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Duane Frerichs, who produces the email newsletter for RAPCAN sends us
some information -
AIR CANADA CORP confirmed that on April 16, 1999 the membership of the
Canadian Auto Workers (CAW), the union representing the airline's 3,840
customer sales and service agents in Canada,  ratified a new collective
agreement with the company. The three year agreement, effective April 1,
1999, runs to March 30, 2002.
The previous agreement expired March 31, 1999.

NEWS FROM AARAP ( Australian Association of Retired Airline Pilots)
WebSite is:   www.leetig.com.au/aarap   but this may change very soon
to:- www.sierraweb.com.au/aarap

Through our Internet connection we are now in touch with RAPCAN (Retired
Airline Pilots of Canada) & "Icarus"  the British Airways Retired Pilots,
we ex-change Newsletters which will be sent to 'all members on the net'
who request them. For the others extracts will appear in our Newsletters.
Print outs will also be brought to our meetings.

New Air, a new airline planning to offer cut-rate fares between New York
and Florida, said Wednesday it agreed to order jetliners worth up to $3.6
billion from Europe's Airbus Industrie rather than BOEING CO. The decision
is a setback for Boeing, whose competing 737 narrow-body plane is the
world's most widely used jetliner.
A spokesman for New Air said the carrier will order 75 Airbus A320 planes,
which it chose because of their configuration, including seats
that are wider than those on the 737.

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. (Duane Frerichs)

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. Vesta received this message from Shirlee Schacter -
Hi Vesta - Gerry Rellinger sends his regards. Your name came up at a
Farewell Luncheon for Owen Colliss who is retiring April 30th from his
position as Vice President of Sales and Merchandising for Galileo
Canada. As you may remember, Owen already retired after many years with
Air Canada and was responsible for the distribution of the Reservec
Computer Reservations System to travel agencies and the growth of the
Agency Automation program under Computer & Systems Services of Air
Canada. Makes one wonder where he'll turn up next!
The other thing is an industry news item re BA passengers getting a
scare.  Apparently passengers on a British Airways plane that left San
Francisco for London on Fri. Apr. 23th 99 received a big scarewhen they
were told by a recorded message that the plane was going to crash into
the sea.  They were told to take precautions.  It turns out the message
was played by mistake and the plane landed safely in London.  Some
passengers, however, were left in a state of shock and two had anxiety
attacks.  British Airways said the playing of the message was likely a
human error and apologized to the passengers.
That's it for now. Regards, Shirlee

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. Your co-pilot recently joined UK Pionair Jack Morath and his wife Aureen
in Vancouver. Jack and Aureen are the instigators of the UK Pionairs
Annual Jaunts, two day visits of some 50 Pionairs and friends, which have
taken in Ottawa, Niagara, Quebec City, Calgary, Edmonton, Nice, France in
past years and last year in Boston. This years event will take place in
Vancouver on September 29/30th. Jack and Aureen were in Vancouver for two
days to check out and arrange accommodations and to view some of the
attractions in and around Vancouver. Afterwards we flew into Portland for a
few days of visiting. We spent the whole day in the Science Museum, cost for
seniors to the museum is us$4.50, the Imax theatre was showing 'Everest'
also at us$4.50 and the spectacular laser show at us$3.00, all very
enjoyable. We drove to the coast and drove the coastal road one day,
and, after some good eating and enjoyable company, we flew back home.
We picked up the booklet called 'Traveller coupon guide' which gives
details of reduced rates for hotel/motels. Our costs were us$49 per night
in the Motel 8, Travelodge and Best Western.
The flight down was almost empty, only 15 out of 48, and the flight home
was cancelled, presumably through lack of interest, as the next flight
accommodated both bookings and still left 6 open seats.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Tom Martin sends this -
A news item on local Victoria radio May 6 said that for this summer,
AC would operate a daily non stop flight between Toronto & Victoria.
My wife checked it out with res. and was told the flt would depart YYZ
0600PM arriive Victoria 0752PM, return 0800AM arrive YYZ 0317PM.
The agent said it wasn't yet in the schedule, but she found it under
something called AC Vacations.  Tom Martin <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Smilie from the newsletter of RAPCAN -
A plane was taking off from Kennedy Airport.  After it reached a 
comfortable cruising altitude, the captain made an announcement over the
intercom, "Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. Welcome  to
Flight Number 293, nonstop from New York to Los Angeles. The weather  ahead
is good and therefore we should have a smooth and uneventful flight. Now sit
back and relax - OH MY GOD!"
Silence followed and after a few minutes, the captain came back on the
intercom and said, "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am so sorry if I scared you
earlier, but while I was talking, the flight-attendant brought me a cup of 
coffee and spilled the hot coffee in my lap.  You should see the front of 
my pants!"
A passenger in Coach said,
"That's nothing. He should see the back of  mine!"

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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