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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
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number 370 May 25, 1999, BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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Air Canada Family will be saddened to hear of the death of
E.J. "Bud" Fogarty of Moncton, early Sunday morning, May
23rd.

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Welcome Aboard  newbies and other changes

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is Gary Rust of Morin-Heights,QC who was Crew
manning and allocation analyst e-mail address

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is G.Brian Johnstone of Winnipeg MB
e-mail address. who was a Finance Agent.

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is Walter Lenihan of LaSalle QC
who was a shift manager at SOCC e maill address.

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is Eric Bell’s e-mail address.

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is change of address. for John Ferguson retired
pilot Calgary

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is Kelvin and Flora Mackenzie,
Musquodoboit, Nova Scotia change in email address.

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In our last we gave the incorrect key-in for our archives,
it should be as follows:
You can link to the archives from the bottom of our home
page at:

http://www.acfamily.net/between
or directly at:   http://www.acfamily.net/byn_archives

This is a secure area exclusive to our readers,to enter use
the following:
User Name: byn
Password: vesta

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rebuttal nr 1  Subject: Just BGI?
We had a similar experience at YYZ in November of last year.
The agent at checkin tagged our bags as standby, however our
travelling companion's who were junior to me, had their bags
tagged through to Ft. Lauderdale Upon my pointing out the
discrepancy to the agent, I was informed that this was now
company policy, active employees will take preference over
retirees regardless of seniority. I have since tried to get
confirmation of this policy but to no avail.
Patrick C. Taylor  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

rebuttal nr 2. Subject: Re:AC Flt. 967
Please allow me to begin by saying that, regarding the
incident noted re Flt 967, April 23 BGI/YYZ, the fact that
an active employee was given priority over a retired
employee does make total sense to me. I am a retired AC
employee and, although it may be of some disruption to
myself and my wife when we travel, I would still rather see
an active AC employee get that seat, so he/she may return to
their respective stations for work, so that we, retired AC
employees may still enjoy our more leisure travel. I am not
aware of the rules, in favor of active or inactive employees
getting priority in a case as in the BGI/YYZ Apr 23. Just my
comments.
Thanks Brian O'Hare...Formally YYZ Customer Service, now
residing in PHX. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:58AM Subject: Regina City
Police Statement - NOT a JOKE - important!!!!! For your
information, a couple of weeks ago, in a movie theater, a
person sat on something sharp in one of the seats. When she
stood up to see what it was, a needle was found poking
through the seat with an attached note saying, "You have
been infected with HIV." The Center for Disease Control
reports similar events have taken place in several other
cities recently. All of the needles tested HAVE been
positive for HIV.

The CDC also reports that needles have been found in the
coin return areas of pay phones and soda machines. Everyone
is asked to use extreme caution when confronted with these
types of situations.

All public chairs should be thoroughly but safely inspected
prior to any use. A thorough visual inspection is considered
the bare minimum.
Furthermore, they ask that everyone notify their family
members and friends of the potential dangers, as well.
The previous information was sent from the Regina City
Police Dept to all of the local governments in the
Saskatchewan area and was interdepartmentally dispersed.
We were all asked to pass this to as many people as
possible!! Frank Pedder (and I hope Air Canada inspects all
our aircraft seats,ed)

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And here's an item from our friend Bill Norberg.
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Recently I purchased a book titled simply "Water" by Marq de
Villiers, a Canadian author. It is the story of the world's
water supply and the serious situation facing the world in
the not too distant future. I am very impressed with the
book and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in
ecological matters. As I read it I was reminded of a water
"Incident" that happened at the Dorval Maintenance Base in
the early 70's.
The surface water drainage system at Dorval Airport is such
that the water eventually finds itself ending up in Bouchard
Creek which runs through Dorval and maybe parts of Lachine
before emptying into the St. Lawrence River.
One day the Power Plant shop were judiciously discharging
some waste fluids into the drainage system. They had
carefully propped the drum in such a manner that the fluids
would very slowly be dripped into the waste system so as not
to cause excess pollution. It seems that for reasons unknown
,this carefully laid plan failed and the fluids were
discharged at a very high rate.This substance now in a
concentrated form wended its way through Bouchard Creek and
into the St. Lawrence River.

The Allen's apple juice plant in Lachine was downstream of
where Bouchard Creek entered the River and of course took
the water it needed for its production from the river. They
didn't realize what was flowing down the river and it
inadvertently contaminated the whole weekend's production of
Apple Juice. Investigation of the problem led back to
Bouchard Creek ands upstream to the Power Plant Shop. A
lawsuit ensued naturally which was eventually settled. I
never realized that Aircraft Maintenance could have such far
reaching effects. It was not a happy day.

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No Travel Tips as Terry is travelling.
But here's a note from one of our other wanderers.
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999
From: Sheila moscoe <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Just wanted to let you know that I took a Canadian Interline
cruise deal for $122 USD, and sailed on the Dawn Princess
from SFO to YVR (May 19-22). It was excellent. Had a
beautiful outside picture window stateroom. Dinner table
consisted of 6 other airline people (UA). I've already
received an e-mail from one of them!!
Our full day stop in YYJ on Friday was excellent.
The only drawback was checking in at SFO. It took hours
standing in line and the ship left 1 1/2 hr late.
Fortunately for us we got to the pier just after noon and
only stood for a short time.
However, a great getaway, for a great price!! Our next T2
Coffee Klatch will be Tuesday, June 1st. How does this new
name sounds? T2CK?!!!!
Bye for now,Sheila

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LONDON, Jan 22 (AFP) - A grandmother flying home from a
Christmas visit to relatives became the focus of a trans-
continental search when an airline lost track of her en
route, according to British press reports Friday.
Nancy Brock ended up flying on four airlines, landed in five
countries and spent three nights trying to get home to
Zimbabwe after visiting Britain.
What should have been an 18-hour flight eventually took her
over 80 hours, while her family frantically tried to track
her down.
Brock, 70, left her daughter's home in Mansfield, central
England, 10 days ago after spending Christmas and New Year
there.
She took a KLM flight to Amsterdam, but a connecting flight
to Harare was held up by snow on the runway, forcing her to
spend a night in the terminal.
The next day she was told the Zimbabwe flight had been
canceled, and she was put on a Swissair plane to Zurich with
a connection to Johannesburg. But 15 minutes into that, it
returned to Zurich because of a fire alert.
She was put up in a hotel for the night, then boarded an
Iberia flight to Madrid to connect with another flight to
Johannesburg.
Arriving in South Africa, she found the Harare flight had
already left, so she spent the third night in Johannesburg.
Next day, the airline arranged a private flight to her
destination, where she turned up nearly 85 hours after her
planned return home.
Meanwhile her daughter Cheryl Dixon had alerted
international police, her local MP and the Foreign Office to
try to track her down.
"Mum couldn't phone me because she didn't have my number
with her. I was frantic," she said,
A KLM spokeswoman was quoted in the press as saying the
problem occurred when Brock was transferred to the aircraft
that was delayed in Zurich.
"At this point KLM lost track of her, a fact we deeply
regret."

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TODAY'S SMILIE
YOU KNOW IT'S A "NO FRILLS" AIRLINE WHEN ...

* They don't sell tickets, they sell chances.
* All the insurance machines in the terminal are sold out.
* Before the flight, the passengers get together and elect a
pilot.
* If you kiss the wing for luck before boarding, it kisses
you back.
* You cannot board the plane unless you have the exact
change.
* The Captain asks all the passengers to chip in a little
for gas.
* When they pull the steps away, the plane starts rocking.
* The Captain yells at the ground crew to get the cows off
the runway.
* You ask the Captain how often their planes crash and he
sez, "Just once."
* No movie. Don't need one. Your life keeps flashing before
your eyes.
* All the planes have both a bathroom and a chapel.

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.

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