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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/

Mailing of this  "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust administrator of
the "AC Family Network" at: http://www.acfamily.net

number 375   date June 9th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. We welcome -
John H. Noel  (Howie) retired Mgr. Mtce Tech Publications & Program
Support lives in St. Lazare,  Quebec
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Barry Gard retired captain lives in  Stroud, On
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Edna Rachuk is the wife of Len Rachuk, Customer Service Training Dept.
Now long retired, lives in Richmond, BC
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Wayne L Hilson retired Flight Crew Scheduler lives in Vancouver, BC'
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. Where are they now?
Betty-Lou Lynn is now at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Lionel Musgrove is now at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

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. Oops!
Linda Kwoon wishes to elucidate on the information we had in NetLetter 368
with regards to the Travel Guide.
It should have read:
If by mistake, you have received a copy of "Your Travel Guide" in
other than the language of your choice, please contact James Morrow
at the Pensions office. 
Your Company records will be corrected and a new copy forwarded
to you.
Linda "Linda Kwoon"<This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Ron Peel sends this comment -
I join others in also thanking Linda Kwoon for authoritative information
on contingent pass travel. I think an article in Horizons by Industry
Travel is warranted to overcome the current "employees come before
retirees" misunderstanding by Company personnel and especially Passenger
Agents.

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. Whats on and where!
Compiled by Vesta -

Sunday June 13, 1999
Ottawa, Pionairs Brunch monthly - PlaceNextDoor 320 Rideau St.
info 841-7091
Tuesday June 15, 1999
Burlingame California Retirees & Pionairs monthly meeting at
11am Air Canada office all welcome
Wednesday June 16, 1999
BurOak Pionairs Grp, 10:30am at Mother Tuckers Market Place,
QEW South Service Rd between Walkers's and Guelph lines
Burlington Ontario
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and Crepes Cafe,
Ontario St & Lakeport. Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Friday June 18, 1999
1999 Montreal Pionairs Bus Tour - Gross-Ile Quebec City Region
see NetLetter 359 for more information
contact Ben Vezina 514-697-1037
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10 am,
Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping.
Saturday June 19, 1999
Hamilton Air Show
Sunday June 20, 1999
Hamilton Air Show
Monday June 21, 1999
99 System Pionairs Invitation to Golf - at Bell Bay Baddeck,
Cape Breton NS more info in NetLetter #341
Wednesday June 23, 1999
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and Crepes Cafe,
Ontario St & Lakeport. Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Thursday June 24, 1999
Comox, Van Isle Pionairs monthly contacts Ralph Tisdall at 250-338-5788
or email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. for location.

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. Mystery solved!
To answer the query re the Logo put by Sheila Moscoe in NetLetter 374 -
Charles & Diana Shnider came through -
To answer your Mt. Tolmie question, the home belongs to Al Wilson who
was Air Canada's Station Manager, YYJ until retirement in 1974.  His
wife, Georgina, is a wonderful floral arranger and flowers are her
passion.  Incidentally Al tells me that his son picked up an AC sign at
a garage sale and so far he has used only the logo.  Seems his wife
objects to his usuing the whole sign. Happy to solve the mystery,
sincerely, Chuck Shnider YYJ, formerly YWG Sales retired..
Charles & Diana Shnider   EMail:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Sheldon Doskie recently took a couple of cruises - here's his impressions.
As for my cruises, the first one was excellent. It was a 16-day cruise
from Acapulco to New York via the Panama canal. Dargal had matched me up
with an A.C. retiree in San Francisco who turned out to be an excellent
cabin-mate. We met several other airline employees on the cruise as well.
Gerry Philbrook who worked in the Pass Bureau in YUL was there, whom I
hadn't seen in years! He does some marketing for Dargal.
The food could not be better and there was plenty of it. The crew went
to every length necessary to ensure that everyone enjoyed the cruise.
There was good quality entertainment every night, the weather was perfect
and the passengers were most freindly and sociable. There were also plenty
of daytime activities planned for anyone to take part in.
While on the cruise, Gerry passed around info sheets about upcoming cruises
that Dargal was selling and one of them was the Osaka-YVR cruise for $513.00
U.S. which included port fees. It sounded like a steal, so after I got home
and thought about it for a few days, I decided to go for it. It was
a re-positioning cruise.

After booking it with Dargal, I found that the flights to Osaka were
all oversold up to four days before the cruise date, and I knew that hotels
in Japan were expensive. Anyway, I decided to try for the Thursday flight
which got in on Friday (the ship was to sail on Monday).
I just made that flight, many lesser priority cons being left behind.
That meant 3 nights hotel in Osaka. I stayed at the hotel at the airport
which was a top-notch hotel. They offered airline employees a special rate
of 17000 Yen per night which is about $140.00 Cdn.
There was a restaurant in the hotel which had an all-you-can-eat lunch
buffet for 2200 Yen (about $30.00 Cdn) which I had on Saturday & Sunday, so
I was able to keep my expenses to a minimum.
The bus fare from the airport to the Pier was about $20.00 Cdn. Considering
how full the flights were, I was glad to pay the extra nights and not have
to worry about not making the flight.

As for the cruise itself, The food was also great and plenty of it as well.
The problem that I had on it was my cabin. It was an outside cabin right at
water level, which meant that I had a hard time sleeping because of the
noise. It was constant all the way across. I was alright up until the last
2 or 3 days of the cruise when the lack of sleep caught up with me and I
started to feel run down. By the time we docked in YVR I was in terrible
shape. My lungs felt full of fluid and I was coughing & sneezing and just
felt exhausted. I got home and went staight to bed. For the most part, I'm
okay now. I still cough a bit but not nearly as bad as before.
By the way, Kay & Syl Napolitano were on the cruise as well.
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*******A N N O U N C E M E N T*******

We are please to announce the Internet presence of
the Retired Airline Pilots of Canada (RAPCAN) at
http://www.acfamily.net/rapcan/
This brings an added dimension to the delivery of
information to the members the association.  The website
compliments the existing print RAPCAN News and the
NetLetter
*  Tom Grant  *  Alan Rust  *   Capt. Duane Frerichs  *
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. 1999 CONVENTION of the CAHS -
THE CANADIAN AVIATION HISTORICAL SOCIETY
36th Annual Convention and General Meeting
Held Jointly with
The 5th ANNUAL AIR FORCE HISTORICAL CONFERENCE
Wednesday, 23 June to Saturday 26 June, 1999.

COME, MEET YOUR FRIENDS,
AND ENJOY AN EXCITING HISTORICAL PROGRAMME!

The 1999 Canadian Aviation Historical Society (CAHS) National
Convention and Annual General Meeting will take place at
Canadian Forces Base Borden, 60 miles north of Toronto. The
convention/conference is jointly sponsored by the Toronto
Chapter of the CAHS and 1 Canadian Air Division's Air Force
Heritage and History Section (AFHH).

ACCOMMODATION will be available on the Base, and if necessary, at a modest
surcharge, at Georgian College, Barrie. In addition, excellent commercial
motel accommodation is available in Alliston, 9 miles from the Base.
MEALS will be served at the Maple Conference Centre, formerly the RCAF
Officers' Mess.
TRANSPORTATION from Pearson (Toronto) International Airport is available,
on request, for those who are arriving by Air.
COST: Option 1 - Full Package.
$50 per person, per day; plus one-time $30 registration fee per person;
includes accommodation (two to a room at CFB Borden); breakfast, lunch and
dinner at the Maple Conference Centre; Meet and Greet (BBQ) on Wednesday
(23 June); Banquet on Friday (25 June); breakfast on Saturday (26 June);
coffee breaks, VIP ticket for the Air Show (26 June); tours, transportation
as required; and a copy of the Proceedings.
Other accommodation and meal Options are available on request.
For more information:
E-mail:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.; or This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.;
or Fax 204-833-2512

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.  Here's a happy passenger for CF-TCC -

Yesterday had the pleasure of taking my 2 sons in law for a ride on
the TCA L10a CF-TCC. What a kick!
Due to a local thunderstorm we sat on the apron of 24L at YUL for 35
minutes waiting for a clear spot for our sight seeing trip around
Montreal.  We were entertained by a host of in bound traffic from
Dash-8's to A340's and some entertaining banter from our crew.
We took of in a roar of Pratt & Whitney power and did a 40 minute tour
of the Ottawa valley and downtown Montreal.
That has to be the best 40 minutes I've ever spent as a passenger.
I have been on many aircraft types in the last 40 years from Viscounts
to Cessna Citations, but old CF-TCC gives you very real sense of
flying and history.
I recommend that anyone who gets a chance to participate in the Dreams
Take Flight tours, jump at it, its is worth every penny.
Dennis Brown This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's Travel Tips.
Canadian Interline offerings -
Mexico Specials!  Need a quick break?
Leeward - 4 Night Mexico from Miami
Itinerary:  Miami, Cozumel, Key West, Miami
Departure Dates:  Jul 5, 12, & 19/99
Inside cabin from $359USD, ppdbl, Outside cabin from $409-429USD, ppdbl
plus  $93USD Port charges per person
and
Departure Dates:  Aug 30, Sep 6, 13, 20, 27, October 4/99
Inside cabin from $239USD, ppdbl, Outside cabin from $289-309USD, ppdbl
plus  $93USD Port charges per person

Trans Atlantic - Norwegian Cruise Lines
August 8, 1999 - ss Norway - 13 Night Cruise Southampton to Miami
Itinerary:  Southampton, England, St George's Channel, Dublin Ireland,
Solar Eclipse Cruising, Sail past Statue of Liberty, New York City, Miami
Inside cabin from $819USD, ppdbl, Outside cabin from $1019USD,ppdbl
plus  $218USD Port charges per person

Call Canadian interline Travel to take advantage
of these special rates at 1-800-665-3100!!!

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. Smilies.
Gord Dalziel also sent us these -
A business man called and had a question about the documents he needed in
order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion about passports, I
reminded him he needed a visa. "Oh no I don't, I've been to China many
times and never had to have one of those."
I double checked, and sure enough, his stay required a visa.
When I told him this he said, "Look, I've been to China 4 times and every
time they have accepted my American Express."

A woman called to make reservations, "I want to go from Chicago
to Hippopotamus, New York"  The agent was at a loss for words. Finally, the
agent: "Are you sure that's the name of the town?" "Yes, what flights do
you have?" replied the customer.
After  some searching, the agent came back with, "I'm sorry, ma'am,
I've looked up every every airport code in the country and can't find a
Hippopotamus anywhere." The customer retorted, "Oh don't be silly. Everyone
knows where it is. "Check your map!" The agent scoured a map of the state of
New York and finally offered, "You don't mean Buffalo, do you?"
"That's it!   I knew it  was a big animal!"


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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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