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NetLetter 389

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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot- Terry Baker    This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net

number 389 July 23, 1999 
BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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WELCOME ABOARD
Here are four new members who attend the T2K YYZ airport
sales coffee group.

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is E-mail address for Rochelle Trunn who
resides in somewhere in TORONTO ON

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is E-mail address for MaryLou Mailloux who
resides in somewhere in TORONTO ON

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is E-mail address for Cathy & Jim
McCavitt who reside in Oro Station ON formerly Airport Sales
Manager.

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is E-mail address for Ann Dickson
who resides in TORONTO ON

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Subject: RE: T2CK

The next coffee klatch is just around the corner. As Sheila
will be away, Shirley Goveia has graciously offered to host
this month's get-together.

Hope to see one and all on Tuesday, August 3 at 1100 hours
at the Golden Griddle on the airport strip. You could win a
$20 food certificate. Cheers .. Janet Grunwald

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COMMENTS re BETWEEN YOURSELVES

Date: Wed, 21 Jul 99 07:00:37 -0500
From: "Linda Kwoon"<This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: Re: family affaire

Upon my return, I did come across your article on the Family
Affair program and I am meeting with the Marketing group for
the right answers.

We have always been made to believe that the Family Affair
ticket holders are treated like regular revenue passengers
and therefore, once boarded, they should not be subject to
deplane. Again, like all revenue passengers, if we check-in
early, this will avoid being denied boarding if space is no
longer available.

I will get back to you on the denied boarding compensation
as well as the possibility for a full refund in such
situation. Best regards,Linda


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followup 
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 99
From: "Linda Kwoon"<This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: Re: family affaire
Dear Terry and Vesta,

Further to my message, I would like to further reconfirm
that, as per CIC*808/101 (Chapter on Denied Boarding),
passengers holding Family Affair tickets are treated as
revenue passengers and will not be denied boarding unless
they volunteer or unless it is absolutely necessary during
an irregular operation. Should such situations arise,
passengers will be protected on the next available flight
and will be entitled to denied boarding compensation. To
avoid such possibility,
CHECK-IN EARLY TO SECURE A BOARDING CARD AND A SEAT!

As an FYI, I have included the Overbooking Notice that will
explain the denied boarding situation:

"Airline flights may be overbooked, and there is a slight
chance that a seat will not be available on a flight for
which a person has a confirmed reservation. If the flight is
overbooked, no one will be denied a seat until volunteers
are asked to willingly give up their reservation. If there
are not enough volunteers, the airline will deny boarding
other persons in accordance with its particular boarding
priority. With few exceptions, persons denied boarding
involuntarily are entitled to compensation. The complete
rules for the payment of compensation and boarding
priorities are available at all airport ticket counters and
boarding locations."

Family Affair tickets as other low discounted revenue
tickets are non-refundable. However, refunds are offered as
a last alternative only in the case flights are cancelled
due to mechanical reasons.

If you can find out which airports made the threat that
Family Affair ticket holders will be denied boarding. I
would like to report this to the Customer Service department
to make corrective action.

I hope that the above information will help clarify this
matter. Regards,Linda
(thank you Linda)

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FRM RAPCAN
From: "Ray Lank" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: CF-TCC  trivia
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:55:31 -0400

It is great to see the interest in CF-TCC. We acquired all
three aircraft as a package with our original purchase of
Canadian Airways for $388,686.02. Being the second type of
aircraft when the TCA then ordered three brand new Electra's
they were designated 203 (TCA), 204 (TCB) and 205 (TCC). ""
in 1986 to visit 50 airports to celebrate of 50th
anniversary of TCA/AC.Northwest first introduced it into
service in June of 1934. The Electra was also configured on
skis and a tricycle gear version! " before the aircraft was
repainted and moved to it's permanent home at the NAM in OW.
The pilot/owner from whom AC bought TCC (with whom I flew it
from Florida to WG in 1984 for its rebuild job) accidentally
died two years ago.Ray Lank.

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From: "Bill Norberg" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: The mysterious fin number 25!
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:20:28 -0500

Re the fin number mystery of CF-TCC. All aircraft fleets
operated by TCA/AC were assigned a series of company
determined numbers for ease of reference and recording.

The Lockheed fleet of course were the first and were
numbered from 21 onward. The original five 10A aircraft were
numbered 21 through 25. The D.O.T aircraft registration
letters for aircraft operated by TCA essentially started
with the letters CF-TCA. even though there were two aircraft
received prior to the start of the CF-TXX series.

This would then assign the number 25 to CF-TCC. The
Lockheed 14 series started with CF-TCD aircraft number 26.

As other new fleets were received the aircraft were assigned
3 digit numbers with the first digit identifying the fleet
type. Regards Bill Norberg

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NEWS FROM THE PIONAIRS:

Subject: Memorabilia Project
I have just returned from a weekend in Scotland, to attend
the British Open. All I can say is, I saw the "Open of the
Century"....You had to be there to get the full impact of
the "Birth of a National Hero" ..it was beyond anyone's
imagination.

However, as is my usual custom when I arrive back from a
trip ....is get on the internet to see what you two have
sent in my absence...Vesta and Terry you two have become
part of my life, your contribution to the lives of the
retirees of Air Canada(TCA) cannot be measured, and I want
to add my personal thanks to the many messages that you
received from other conferees.

May I ask you to publish a request via your netletter??? Not
only am I interested in obtaining artifacts of our company;
but, I would be most interested in video-taped interviews of
anyone and everyone; especially individuals that worked for
TCA. Please anyone out there with a video camera and has a
family member that worked for TCA, or knows someone that
worked for TCA...ask him/her to put there memories on tape
and send them on to me.

Kindest personal regards
Fraser Muir
348 Bertrand St.,
Rosemere, Que., J7A-1Y4
Phone (450)621-4404


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MISCELLANEOUS INFO
Subject: Personal Experience - NetLetter Nr. 387
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:02:47 -0400
thank you very much for publishing Matt's recent experience
in Austria. Just wanted to set the record straight that it
was his experience not mine. It just happens to be my email
address.Cheers Gisela.

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ACCOLADES
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 Thanks very much for the excellent
work you and Terry do with the NetLetter.Cliff Jones-Cassidy
in Beautiful Muskoka

Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 From: sheila moscoe
<This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> Well, thanks for finding out about
the AC logo on the house on Mt. Tolmie in YYJ. Chuck Shnider
wrote me and told me who owns the house. Really appreciate
this networking.really enjoy the netletter.

Keep the NLs coming - they're great.
Regards - Tom Martin  15/6/99


SMILIE
A pilot died and went to pilot hell. Satan was there to
greet him. Satan said:
"You can choose your punishment for the rest of eternity.
You see those three doors. You have to select one of the
three doors and that will be your punishment for the rest of
eternity. I have a new customer. Take a few minutes to think
about it. I'll be back soon."

Satan left and the pilot was alone in front of the three
doors. The pilot thought he would take a sneak peek behind
each of the doors. He opened the first door and there he saw
a pilot in training, continually going over takeoff
checklists, again and again and again. "I can't do this for
the rest of eternity!".

He opened the second door to find a pilot constantly facing
emergency situations: lightning strikes, engines shutting
down, wind shear, etc ... "This is worse than the first
door. I can't do this for the rest of eternity".

He opened the third door to find a pilot being tended to by
three lovely flight attendants. "Would you like more cream
in your coffee, sir? Is your chair comfortable, sir? Do you
wish me to adjust the air conditioning, sir?" "Now that's
more like it. This, I can take forever!"

Satan came back and asked: "So, have you selected a door?"
"I certainly have. I'll take door three".

"Ooops, I forgot to tell you that door three is not a pilot
option", Satan replied, "That door is flight attendant
hell".

frm BYN 101. worth a repeat, dont you think?
RAPCAN please copy <G>


.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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