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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net

Number 392   Date August 4th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. DID YOU KNOW?
You can read or retrieve back issues of the BYN?
Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" subscribers
and you will need the following password to enter -
User Name: byn  Password: vesta

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. Where are they now?
Edward Leckett is now at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Welcome to
Owen Colliss retired Director, Agency Sales
lives in Beaconsfield, QC  email:     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Need to know.
The current agreement with Mexicana is ID50 for business or personal travel.
On the ZED fare front for personal standby travel, employees, spouses, and
eligible children can purchase tickets for a medium ZED fare. Tickets for
parent travel are available at the high ZED fare.
Retirees are NOT eligible for the Mexicana Fiesta Fares.

Be aware that the employee/retiree priority for travel partners ONLY
applies when the employee/retiree travels with them. If in doubt
contact the Winnipeg Call Centre.

SPECIAL FAMILY AFFAIR SELLOFFS
The special fares are offered to all persons who are eligible
for the Family Affaire Program.
SELLOFF TAIPEI
TRAVEL PERIOD:    ON/BEFORE 15AUG99
SELL PERIOD:     ON/BEFORE 10AUG99
MIN/MAX:         FIRST FRI OR SAT NIGHT / 30 DAYS
FARE GRID TO/FROM CDA - TPE:
BC/AB      SK/MB      ON      PQ      MARIT
$559       $559      $659    $659     $769
FARE GRID TO/FROM USA - TPE
NW       SW       N MID      S MID      NE     SE     EUROPE
$559    $559      $659       $659      $659    $659    $1059

Call the Winnipeg Employee Call Centre for more details.

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. Whats on where.
Compiled by Vesta -
Saturday August 7, 1999
Abbotsford BC International Air Show
Sunday August 8, 1999
Abbotsford BC International Air Show
Ottawa, Pionairs Brunch monthly - PlaceNextDoor 320 Rideau St.
info 841-7091
Tuesday August 10, 1999
Mississauga Pionairs meet at Mustang Watering Hole
Clarkson shopping mall Lakeshore Dr West
south on Southdown Rd exit off QEW.
contact Bill Stemshorn This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Wednesday August 11, 1999
Alexandria Air Canada Retirees Lunch Group monthly,
for info Clive 613-525-4819 or Cam 224-6469
Edmonton Summer BBQ 4pm to 8pm Kinsmen River Valley Pl.
feature Alberta beef tenderloin,NOW $10.00 PP
contact Lorraine Horsley
or Shirley Jay This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
visiting Pionairs most Welcome
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am
Sweets and Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970

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. Stories wanted.
Jim Smith at Air Canada asks -
I was wondering if you might post a rqst to any retired Pilot
that  flew the Lancastrians (we had 8) during WW II.
I have been toying with the idea of compiling a book, that would
be  a collection of photos and stories written by the employees
of  TCA/Air Canada.
It is probably a few years off but unfortunately these gentlemen
are getting up in age and may not be with us, when I actually
start  the book.
Thanks in advance.
Jim Smith This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. News from the districts.
In the Summer edition of the Vancouver Island newsletter was the following
information from Peggy Clark, AirBC Customer Service Manager  -
Following the recent closure of the Air Canada Victoria ticket office,
Peggy points out that, unlike the CTO, the priority is to board and depart
flight on time. The gate agents primary function is to board flights, and
checking in at the gate is not recommended as there is only one busy agent
there. Itinerary changes for standby passengers is second in priority to
boarding the flight. So please be patient and wait until your name is
called. If you plan to travel on the new transcon service YYJ-YYZ - please
allow a little extra time for check-in and security clearance. Advance
booking is proving this flight to be very popular. As much as possible all
travel itineraries should be arranged when you are registering with the
Employee Call Centre.

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. A memory from your co-pilot -
The Canadair water bomber -
It was in the early 80's I think. I worked at the Dorval Base in the
Computer building, 3 rd floor. Our section overlooked to the east and had
the view of the base road and the Canadair hanger.
One day I was in the office of Andy McCready, my supervisors formulating
policy, which really means were were chewing over the latest results of the
Habs and Expos! I was gazing out of the window and noticed the group of
people on the roof of the Canadair hanger, I then saw the yellow water
bomber flying just a few feet above the runway. As it reappeared flying east,
I watched its progress as the aircraft gradually rose until it came to the
end of the runway, then it banked to the left to make a turn back on a
reciprocal course. I said to my supervisor something like 'Andy that aircraft
is going to crash'.
He looked around just as the left wing hit the ground and the plane
disappeared in a cloud of dust. A few minutes later we saw the pilot emerge
from the aircraft, and the crash tenders speeding down the runway.
The rescue vehicles did not realize that the crash had happened on the
east side of the route 13 cut, and they had to retrace their path and swing
around onto the base road to get to the crash site.
We learned afterwards that the plane was giving a demonstration of its
capabilities, and had just dump water on the runway in front of the
dignitaries on the roof.
Of all the years I have spent in the airline industry, that is the only time
I had witnessed an aviation accident.
Terry

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. Found on the internet.
BRITISH MAN SENTENCED FOR STUBBORNESS:
A new twist on air rage: Neil Whitehouse, 28, was flying from Madrid to
Manchester in September 1998 when he refused to turn off his mobile phone,
despite repeated crew requests.  Judge Anthony Ensor called Whitehouse's
behavior "stubborn and ignorant," and sentenced him to one year in prison.

In a further development, the British Government are so concerned with
the     increase of air rage that there is a bill before the house which
will make a    charge of air rage a criminal offence rather than a civil
offence, and
greatly increase the jail time and/or the financial penalty.

British Airways introduces toddler seats on its B-747 aircraft.
According to The Vancouver Sun, on August 1, oneworld member British
Airways will introduce the world's first airline seat designed for
children under two years old. When travelling on long-haul flights in
any class of service, the carrier's youngest customers can sit in the
specially designed adjustable seats_a parent's knee or bassinet will
be a thing of the past. This service will be available at no extra
charge.

British Airways introduces toddler seats on its B-747 aircraft.
oneworld member British Airways will introduce the world's first
airline      seat designed for children under two years old.
When travelling on long-haul flights in any class of service, the
carrier's youngest customers can sit in the specially designed adjustable
seats_a parent's knee or bassinet will be a thing of the past.
This service will be available at no extra charge.

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. For those affectionadoes of CF-TCC -

Donovan Lowry writing in the RAPCAN netletter issued by Duane Frerichs -
" I don't want to boast, or anything like that, Bill, but I have a record
in my log book of flying  in -TCC on July 15th,1944 as F/O to Captain
Bowden, for two hrs. and 11 min. day! Sounds to me as though it was a
practice flight for the captain. In those days, we used the aircraft instead
of simulators, you will remember.
Anyhow, it was good to hear you take part in this lively discussion.
I guess our pal Capt. Ray Lank will have flown here more than anyone else in
our company. At anyrate, it ensures I am now an old man, to know I flew in
her. By the way, Rube Hadfield once assured me I never flew in -TCC, I was
not with the company long enough!
Cheers,"    DJ.  Donovan Lowry <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

Your co-pilot of the NetLetter spotted this item -
The Science Museum in the UK is moving their Lockheed 10A Electra from
Wroughton to South Kensington to go on display in a new permanent aviation
gallery to be opened in 2000. Built in 1935, one of 148 manufactured, this
Electra was acquired from Florida in 1982 and flown across the Atlantic.
Registered as G-LIOA on May 6th 1983 and painted as NC5171N.
Another Lockheed 10 registered NR16020 flown by Linda Finch around the
world to mark the 60th anniversary in 1997 of Amelia Earhart's tragic attempt
will probably end up in the Smithsonian Museum.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Iberian break-a-ways, effective 'till Oct 31st 1999.
6 day/4 nights includes hotel accommodations, private bath,
continental breakfast, hotel taxes and service charges.
Lisbon stay at Novotel Lisboa Hotel    us$349.00 pp dbl.
Round trip space available via British Airways, Iberia Airlines,
Swissair or TWA.
Madrid stay at Gran Hotel Colon us$439 or Melia Castilla us$459 pp dbl.
Round trip space available via British Airways, Iberia Airlines,
Delta or TWA.
Torremolinos stay at Cervantes Hotel us$419.00 pp dbl.
Round trip space available via Iberia Airlines.
Barcelona stay at Expo Hotel us$519.00 or Cinutat Granollers us$549. pp dbl.
Round trip space available via British Airways, Iberia Airlines or TWA.
Madrid/Serville stay at Melia Castilla in Madrid and Melia Servilla.
7 days/5 nights hotel accommodation with private bath, continental
breakfast, hotel taxes and service charges.
(3 in Madrid, 2 in Serville)
Round trip space available via Iberia Airlines.
Contact 1-800-935-9444 for more details.

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. Smilie.

Ross Graham This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. sends this -
Some years ago my son worked as a Piper/Doorman at the Banff Springs
Hotel.
He has just sent along the following -
Questions are quite typical of what we would hear in Banff.
Are those mountains always there?
No we send them every year to Saskatchewan to be cleaned.
How much does a mountain weigh?
With or without snow mam.
Do these doors go in?
Do these stairs go up.
How much does it cost to purchase a mountain?
Well I could sell you that one for $25,000.  Are you interested?
How do you say Banff?
Ban FEH FEH!

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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