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Number 394 Date August 9th, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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. Need to know.
Effective July 15th, the amount of wine you can bring into Canada duty
- and tax-free as part of your personal exemption has been increased.
Old amount 1.14 litres,
NEW amount 1.5 litres.
To include this new amount you have to:
Carry it in your personal baggage or checked luggage.
Meet the minimum age requirements of the province or territory you enter.
Not be claiming any other alcoholic beverages in your personal exemption.
Be returning after an absence of at least 48 hours if you are a Canadian
For Canadian residents ONly:
In addition to the wine increase, your 7 day duty - and tax-free personal
exemption has increased.
Old amount ca$500.00
NEW amount ca$750.00
Family Affair / Eligibility
- Family Affair is valid for personal travel only.
- family affair cannot be used for immigration purposes.
- Use for business purposes carries the same penalties as
abuse of employee free/reduced rate travel privileges.
- Fare applies on the scheduled services of Air Canada & its
connector carriers (Air Ontario, airBC, Air Alliance, Air Nova).
- Family travel is applicable on Air Canada flights and on
the following offline codeshares:
Lufthansa codeshare flights on Toronto-Frankfurt, Vancouver-Frankfurt.
- Air Canada reserves the right to change/cancel the program at any time
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. Alan Macleod sends us the latest on CF-TCC
Subject: Lockheed CF-TCC update!
Tango Charlie Charlie has passed, with glowing colors, its 100 hour
inspection at Winnipeg. This from the head honcho of "Lockheed
Maintenance", George Huntington a "B" engineer in Winnipeg. George
phoned me to say they had replaced a few accessories, (starter,
generator and a some gaskets to try and stop ALL oil leaks, strobe light
transformer, balanced the wheels and other small items), changed the
oil, spark plugs and other 100 hour items. Then they washed it, cleaned
and polished it. That's the second cleaning it has received this year.
It's all set to go to Victoria for the 60th anniversary celebrations of
the airport there.
Captain Patry and I will leave Winnipeg on Tuesday to ensure our arrival
in CYYJ by Thursday. Remember, the aircraft will be on display there at
the museum on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Friday we will fly it four
Following Victoria visit, it will be in Vancouver flying for "Dreams
Take Flight" 19th, 20th, 21st and 23rd.
Next stop will be in Calgary on the 26th, 27th, 28th and 29th.
Then on the 29th, it will be head for Edmonton. We will check with the
folks at the Reynolds Museum at Wetaskiwin, home of the Aviation Hall of
Fame, and if they like we shall stop there for a day on the way to Edmonton.
Edmonton Dreams Take flight flying will be over the Labor Day weekend.
. Some thoughts about the fin number for CF-TCC by Alan Macleod -
Now the explanation of the "25" on the fins. I was told it signifies
that TCC was the 5th aircraft of the 2nd type that T.C.A. owned.
CF-TCA, number 23, was the 3rd aircraft of the second type.
CF-AYZ and CF-BAF would have been number 1 and number 2.
Going back to the number 25 for a minute, if the Lockheed's were the
second type of aircraft the airline had, that must mean the Stearman was
designated as the first type. Yet, Bill Norberg mentioned (I'm pretty
sure it was Bill) it was number 20. (Gerry (Norberg) also knows where the
Stearman remains are. Also, when the first L1408 arrived it was #26.
What happened when they reached #30 ? Weren't the DC-3s numbered the # 30
(The DC3's were numbered 357-383, 390-392 and the Lockheed 10A fleet was
numbered 21-25, L14 numbered 26 thru 41, l18 numbered 42 - 56. - eds)
Speaking of CF-BAF, Captain Gerry Norberg, who helps us fly TCC, says he
knows where the remains of CF-BAF are located and wants to resurrect it.
If anybody is interested in doing the same thing Gerry would be pleased
to receive your donations of $$$ or time in the project !! Prenez Garde!!
. Ray Lank mentioned how much interest the Lockheed was stirring up across
the system. For sure I have never seen so many retired folk, maintenance
and pilots and all types coming out to see the aircraft. Even people
from other airlines (Maritime Central) who operated the type have been
showing up. Great.
The best example I recall was last year in Quebec City. While the
aircraft was there for the 10th Anniversary of Air Alliance, I noticed
and elderly gentleman approaching the aircraft. He was being helped by
his daughter. They came up to us and he said " I know something about
this aircraft you probably don't know." I said " I can tell you do".
This man was probably between 80 and 85.
He took out a large envelope he was carrying and produced three 9x16
photos.. The first showed TCC flying by a group of six or eight men
standing on the side of a grass runway. The aircraft was very low,
maybe one hundred feet. One wheel was in the down position. the other
was only halfway down. The second photo showed poor TCC on its belly in
a grass field (not the grass runway), with both props bent. The third
photo showed a man crawling underneath the aircraft to see what damage
was done. The elderly gentleman who had these photos said, " see that
guy looking underneath the belly" ?, " well that's me! I was the
maintenance engineer for Matane Air services and we operated TCC for
some years". I asked him how long it took to get it back in flying
condition. "Next day. Put new props on and fixed the gear problem". He
said there were no crankshaft run out checks in those days . Also said
if they hadn't gotten it flying the airline would have gone bust !!
His daughter said they read in the paper TCC was in Quebec City for a
weekend. They drove 80 miles to come and see it !
That's it for now.
Next report will be from Vancouver in about two weeks.
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. Alan Macleod has another question for us -
Here's another question.
Most people know what Global Positioning is and about the Global Navigation
system---especially the retired navigators!!
Does anybody know which aircraft Air Canada operates, was the first
one to have a GPS system installed on board ?
I bet Phil Pawsey knows. After all, he was one of those Navigating types !!!
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. Found on the internet.
What's in a name?
British Airways had contemplated changing its name to plain BA because
60% of its customers are not British. Fearing a backlash at home, it
opted instead for removing the stylized Union Flag from the tailfins of
its aircraft in favour of ethnic art from around the world - provoking
a huge protest from UK customers anyway.
The Fiji Millennium Wall will run along the 180th meridian, otherwise known
as the international date line. Preliminary plans call for it to be lit
so brightly that it will be able to be seen from outer space,
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. Janet Grunwald sends us this -
Subject: Fund Raiser
Here is an interesting night out with all proceeds
benefiting Dreams take Flight.
From Tuesday August 17 to Saturday August 21 at 7:00 p.m.
and Saturday, August 21 at 1:00 p.m.
A Cajun and Creole Cooking Demonstration
by Chef Susan Murphy of the Cookin' Cajun Cooking School
in New Orleans, LA will take place in a
Susan is an energetic and entertaining chef who is co-author of the
Cookin' Cajun Cooking School Cook book.
Susan will create a complete New Orleans meal from appetizer to desert,
which all guests will enjoy after the demonstration.
Tickets are $50 per person (30 people per evening)
and include wine and beer.
Kostuch Publications Ltd., Demonstration Kitchen
23 Lesmill Road, Don Mills
for ticket info the contact is
Gary or Carrrol Moorcroft (905) 457-5137.
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. Bill Norberg has a comment about the article in NetLetter nr 391 -
Subject: Re item in # 391 about Viscount CF-THI
The item about H.W.Seagrim turning over the Viscount CF-THI to the National
Museum in Ottawa brought back some memories for me.
I was Director of the Winnipeg Base at that time and was responsible for
having the Viscount prepared for its flight to Ottawa.
We had painted the aircraft in its original "Candy Stripe" livery and after
the work had been completed it was on a local test flight before heading to
When this aircraft was noticed by many residents of Winnipeg we were
bombarded with telephone calls wanting to know what was going on. At the
time we were in the middle of the famous "Winnipeg Base" issue and anything
out the normal became the cause of much consternation.
Public Relations were after me to give the Press a story about it, but I
refused. It was not of any legitimate concern to the public and I did not
want to steal any thunder from the official presentation in Ottawa.
Buzz Sawyer of PR was very upset at my position needless to say. I simply
maintained we had many aircraft in different stages of paint jobs every week
and this was no different.
I did not owe the press an explanation and did not give them one.
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. News from the districts.
On July 28th, the Comox and Courtenay group of Pionairs held their
monthly luncheon at the Kingfisher hotel in Courtenay.
Some two dozen were in attendance, emceed by Eric van der Holt in the
absence of Murray Phipps who is on vacation in Cornwall UK, perhaps hoping
to get a good view of the upcoming eclipse.
The names of those who attended, just in case you want to know who the
lucky retirees are who live on this beautiful Island!
There is an open invite for visiting Pionairs, and your co-pilot took full
advantage of that, the locals were -
Bill and Ann Bevan, Warren Darch, Ness and Michael Dewdney,
Bill and Kay Freeman, Bill and Rhona Muir, Bruce and Kay Mutch,
Frank and Fran Stevens, Eric and Joan van der Holt, Len and Louris Woodcock
and Ralph and Heather Tisdall.
During the lunch, Ann Bevan and Bill Freeman both got a small slice of
cake with a candle to celebrate their birthdays, but nothing was said about
Ralph and Heather Tisdall are wrapping up the final details for the
upcoming Prestwick Open golf tourney Sept 7th through 10th in PEI to
celebrate the 30th anniversary of this event.
Note that the August luncheon is cancelled as the UpIsland luncheon of
the Vancouver Island Pionairs is being held in Nanaimo August 25th.
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. Ron Miles ends us this -
Subject: Past TCA HIstory
Does anyone recall the 40's when all TCA flights between Toronto (Old
Malton Terminal) and Ottawa/Montreal operated via North Bay in both
directions? The fare between Toronto and Ottawa/Montreal was the same as
North Bay and Ottawa/Montreal or return. Smart businessmen soon caught onto
this fact and booked and paid for reservations from Toronto to
Ottawa/Montreal with a stop in North Bay. They had no intention of going
to Ottawa/Montreal and simply returned from North Bay to Toronto and
applied for a full refund which was legitimate.
In other words a free trip from Toronto to North Bay return.
I have no idea how long this was in effect before it was corrected, and I
believe a similar situation once existed ex Vancouver to Calgary/Edmonton
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. Terry's travel tips.
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plus $78.60USD Port charges and Government fee per person
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plus $148.34USD Port charges and Government fee per person
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plus $194.38USD Port charges and Government fee per person
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To take advantage of these special rates call 1-800-665-3100!!!
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Lawsom Tremellon sent this topical chuckle -
TO: My Boss
RE: Changing calendars from Y2K
I hope that I haven't misunderstood your instructions because, to be
honest, none of this Y to K problem made much sense to me. At any
rate, I have finished the conversion. The calendars have returned
from the printer and are ready to be distribute with the following
Januark, Februark, Mak, Julk
I also changed all the days of each week to:
Sundak, Mondak, Tuesdak, Wednesdak, Thursdak, Fridak, Saturdak
We are now Y to K compliant.
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. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
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