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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
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Number 397   Date August 17th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. DID YOU KNOW?
You can read or retrieve back issues of the BYN?
Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" subscribers
and you will need the following password to enter -
User Name: byn  Password: vesta

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. We welcome some more retirees -
Guenther (Gordie) Bauer email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. lives in Pierrefonds, QC
was an Avionics Lead Mechanic
Neil Rix retired Telecomms Engineering Technician living in
Pierrefonds, QC. email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Edric Sims email is  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired
Cust. Sales and Service Agent and lives in YVR.
Bob Belding retired from C & SS Dorval lives in Pierrefonds, QC
email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Morris Rambout retired Lead Station Attendant lives in Brampton, ON
email:          This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
Jack Dahlgren is now located on  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Cec and Arlene McCulloch have moved ISP. Try them on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Bob Dechaux has changed his ISP too. Now on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Bernard Desanlis is now at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. NOT
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. as shown in NetLetter nr 396.

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. Robert Brown has passed the latest info from Captain Alan Macloed -
Subject: LOCKHEED UPDATE CF_TCC
Lockheed Update. August 17th.
"Tango Charlie Charlie" departed Winnipeg on Aug. the 9th. We stopped in
Assiniboia for fuel and to see Air Canada's friend Harry Whereat and his
aircraft collection. We flew from Assiniboia to Calgary, arriving at 8PM.
Remained overnight in Calgary.
On the 10th Calgary weather was ceiling of 300 feet overcast and
visibility of half a mile. However the conditions through the mountains
were excellent. We (Capt. Patry and I ) filed an "instrument flight
rules" (I.F.R.) flight plan from Calgary to Lethbridge and departed
about 9AM. Thirty minutes out of Calgary the weather was clear with
unlimited visibility so we canceled our flight plan (IFR),
and refiled a "visual flight plan" and proceeded throughout the Crow's
Nest Pass then over Fernie, past Cranbrook, Nelson  and on to Penticton.
Uplifted  gas there and then flew from Penticton to Victoria.
The aircraft was on display in Victoria from the 13th through the 15th.
We flew five trips on the 13th and had local dignitaries, MP,  newspaper
and radio and TV station folks on board. this was all in support of the
60th Anniversary of the airport at Victoria. Celebrations are on going
all summer.
Many retired Air Canada and Canadian Airways  folk came and visited the
aircraft. Mr. Dick Leigh, retired superintendent of maintenance,
Air Canada was there to visit "Tango Charlie Charlie" who he  knew
from 1937. Dick had an album of photos which showed CF-TCA, CF-TCB
and CF-TCC.
He recalled the day in November 4, 1937 when TCC stopped in Lethbridge
enroute to Winnipeg on its initial delivery flight from Lockheed in
California.
On Monday 16th, we took TCC to Vancouver where she is in the hangar
there being groomed and polished, compliments of the line maintenance
manager Bob Brown, in preparation for DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT flying on the
18th, 19th, 20th and 21st., from the Air Canada hangar.
Come out and see the Lockheed.
Following DREAMS flying in Vancouver, Tango Charlie Charlie will proceed
to Calgary for the weekend of the 25th, 26th, 27th and 28th.
That's it for now.. Alan MacLeod
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. What's on today and Where is it?  compiled by  Vesta.
Wednesday  August 18, 1999
BurOak Pionairs Grp, 10:30am at Mother Tuckers Market
Place, QEW South Service Rd between Walkers's and Guelph
lines Burlington Ontario
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Thursday  August 19, 1999 
Kingston/OttawaPionairs Lunch with Aunt Lucy's on Princess St
Kingston is the place, the time is 11:30 and cost $15.pp
London UK - TV Show at Teddington Studios to see the recording of
a new comedy show called 'Starting Out' cost free.
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
5530 Miller Rd, Richmond. Reserve your $100 seat. For the
benefit of 'Dreams Take Flight' for special needs children
604-813-6165 or fax 604303-3783
Friday  August 20, 1999
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10 am
Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
Saturday  August 21, 1999
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
Sunday  August 22, 1999
Montreal 9th Multiple Sclerosis Bike Tour 75km or 2-day
150km Wheel Spin associated with Tour de I'lle de Montreal
information Lorraine Denis 514-849-7591ex234.
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
Monday  August 23, 1999
Montreal 9th Multiple Sclerosis Bike Tour 75km
or 2-day 150km Wheel Spin.

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. Bill Fisher sends in this information -
Subject: British Columbia Aviation Museum - Victoria.
This Saturday, 21 August, is the annual open house and hangar dance at
the aviation museum.
The doors open at 09:00, with a pancake breakfast, and close at 16:00
In the evening there is the hangar dance featuring the Swiftsure Big
Band playing the music of the war years from 20:00 to 23:00.
This year the event is also honouring the 60th anniversary of the
Victoria airport which was called R.C.A.F. Station Pat Bay in those days.
Admission to the open house is by donation and tickets for the dance are
$15.00 each and must be bought before 18:00 on the day.
NO tickets are sold at the door.
Also there will be a ribbon cutting ceremony officially opening the
extention to the hangar at 14:00.
How to get there? - Well take the Airport turn (McTavish RD) off
Pat Bay Hwy, then right on Canora Rd to the museum
drive - and follow the crowds!
Bill Fisher     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. In response to our recent article re 'pooch passports' in
NetLetter nr 393 Cliff Jones-Cassidy sends us this -
In response to this news item, (certainly not in defense of it!!!!) may
I add some background information. This may elevate the editor's fear
from "big brother is watching" to "stupid big brother is watching".
For decades Great Britain has deemed it necessary to incarcerate pets
being brought into the UK in a six month quarantine program. This was
to prevent the spread of rabies from 'foreign' animals to the island
nation.     Since its inception, lo those many years ago, not one
quarantined animal has been found to be suffering from rabies.
Obviously therefore, none of these pets would have been responsible for
the transmission of the disease to any other animal in the UK. It must
be noted also that British pets taken out of the country  for any length
of time (even an afternoon's wine run to Bruges) were also subject to
the six month quarantine when they returned to England. The quarantine
program does not include animals escaping into the country from any of
the ships unloading food cargo at any of the ports of call around
England, or currently off any of the food-carrying trucks arriving
in the UK through the 'Chunnel'.
As more and more Britons chose to travel abroad, more and more bemoaned
the quarantine idiocy, to the point where the complaints eventually
reached the European Court in Belgium. After much to-ing and fro-ing,
it has been decided to implement the above noted 'Doggie Passport' as
well as a 'phase-in-program' to eventually eliminate the quarantine law.
The only reason for the phase-in is to protect the livelihood of those
running the quarantine kennels. Dare I call these kennels a very
lucrative 'cash-cow'?
For those of you planning to retire to the running of a pub in Torquay,
you will ultimately be able to take your Canadian pooch with you but
don't hold your breath unless you can do so for at least several years.
Cliff Jones-Cassidy in Beautiful Muskoka This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Margaret Cantwell has found a couple of stories for us -
One is from the Silver Anniversary issue of "Between Ourselves"
April 10th. 1962.
On page 15 it shows a picture of three people and the caption underneath
says: " One of the longest tickets issued for an individual in the
history of the Vancouver Office is delivered by Sale Representative
Bruce Hay and Passenger Agent Joan Patterson.
The customer is E. Gordon Shafter whose ticket includes 45 TCA
stopovers, plus a few on other lines.  Shafter is traveling across
Canada with the Masonic Lodge."

The second item is from the Vancouver Sun Thursday, October 9, 1980
There are photos which show one of our Air Canada Cargo Jets and the
caption is....."Dragging One foot for a landing.
An Air Canada cargo jet lands at Vancouver International Airport with
it's landing gear twisted sideways by a broken bolt.
After circling for 90 minutes, the plane touched down gingerly and the
wheels popped back into place for a safe roll-out. The three-man
crew reported the problem with the right main landing gear after taking
off from Edmonton bound for Los Angeles.
Authorities diverted the stricken plane to Vancouver where it was
surrounded by emergency equipment after landing.  However, Air Canada
spokesmen said the pilot made a perfect landing as the landing gear
aligned itself when the jet touched down"  It does not give the names
of the crew unfortunately.
Cheers....Margaret Cantwell This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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On August 3rd, Air Canada touched down at Washington-National and
celebrated its 50th trans border route with its first flight from Ottawa.
This new CRJ service links the two airports with non-stop flights
every business day, complementing our current service between Ottawa
and Washington Dulles.

Vietnam Airlines plans to keep its fleet on the ground at
midnight, December 31, 1999. Fearing Y2K problems, it wants to avoid
any millennium bug snags.

Nikolai the bull elephant goes to Frankfurt. Last month, a very
special seven-year old pachyderm boards AC872 from Toronto to
Frankfurt in the main deck of our B-747-400 combi. Weighing in at
almost 3,300 lbs., Nikolai is in a crate that weighs nearly 3,000 lbs.

A stroll down memory lane. On July 31, 1995, we began non-stop service
between Ottawa and Chicago. On August 1, 1966, service was inaugurated
to Miami from Toronto and Montreal. On the same day in 1981, our Cargo
colleagues went metric to comply with the federal government's
national metric program. 

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. Terry's travel tips.

FAMILY AFFAIR
Some Pionairs are not aware they could use Family Affair trips themselves.
They knew they could use them for family members.  So we would remind
you that retirees can also use them.

Dargal Interline -
Why not try an adventure in Paradise!
6 Oct ~ 12 Nights ~ Regal Princess
Honolulu, Maui, Kauai, Hilo, At Sea, Christmas Island
At Sea, Bora Bora;Moorea/French Polynesia, Papeete
Inside $719.00
Or choose one of these holiday sailings!
19 Dec ~ 7 Nights ~ Dawn Princess
San Juan, St. Thomas, St. Kitts, St. Maarten, St. Lucia
Barbados, At Sea, San Juan
Inside $574.00
21 Dec ~ 7 Nights ~ Sun Princess
San Juan, St. Maarten, St. Lucia, Barbados, St. Kitts
St. Thomas, San Juan
Inside $474.00
And there's always Beautiful Bermuda!
Just pick the date.....
5, 12, 17, 26 Sept & 3 Oct ~ 7 Nights ~ Royal Caribbean Nordic Empress
New York, At Sea, St. George's, Hamilton, At Sea, New York
Inside $439.00 Ocean View $539.00
All rates are US$ per person, based on double occupancy
and subject to availability and eligibility. New bookings only.
Port charges/Govt fees are additional.
For more information on this and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223

Great Britain Sampler Motorcoach Tour from $999us$
Friday and Sunday Departures Thru Oct 31, 1999
GREAT BRITAIN SAMPLER MOTORCOACH TOUR INCLUDES:
Round-trip space available air transportation, 7 days/5 nights hotel
accommodations with private bath, continental breakfast in London, full
English breakfast and dinner in England while on the motorcoach,
sightseeing tours, all hotel taxes and service charges.
Scottish Masterpiece Motorcoach Tour from $999us$
Wednesday Departures Thru Oct 31, 1999
SCOTTISH MASTERPIECE MOTORCOACH TOUR INCLUDES:
Round-trip space available air transportation, 7 days/5 nights hotel
accommodations with private bath, continental breakfast in London, full
English breakfast and dinner in England while on the motorcoach, full
Scottish breakfast and dinner in Scotland while on the motorcoach,
sightseeing tours, all hotel taxes and service charges.
Great Britain Fly/Drive Vacation from $579us$
Departures Any Day Thru Oct 31, 1999
GREAT BRITAIN FLY/DRIVE VACATION INCLUDES:
Round-trip interline air transportation, 5 nights hotel accommodations
with private bath, breakfast daily and rental car with unlimited mileage
(Category A). Upgrades available.
For More Information About These or Other  Vacations Call
1-800-935-9444. Fax 314-968-9568.

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
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