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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/

Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net

Number 420   Date Oct 29th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. DID YOU KNOW?
You can read or retrieve back issues of the BYN?
Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" subscribers
and you will need the following password to enter -
User Name: byn  Password: vesta

Why not check out the Air Canada Retired Employees Web Site
http://www.acfamily.net/acrew/
webmaster is Tom Grant.

Don't forget the new web site forum on THE MERGER!
http://www.acemployee.com

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. We welcome -
Email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. for retired captain Ronald Paquette
living in Victoria, BC.

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.    Where are they now
An appeal form Joe Lee -
I wonder if you know of any  members who worked in YSB with
Air Canada over the years. I worked at the YSB Airport for 29 years
11 months and retired when AC pulled out in 1990.
If so please e mail me so we can get in touch.
Joe Lee  email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Bob Walker has changed his email to    This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Bruce and Diane Mould has changed email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Due to the merger of B.C.Tel and Telus, the new email address
for Edna and Len Rachuk is now        This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Message from Saville Hambleton, President of the Pionairs -
Subject: proxies
Hello Everyone;
So that there is no mistake on proxy votes by Air Canada shareholders,
please inform your local membership that the Horizons Hot Line is
recommending the Onex proxy form (the pink sheet) be....THROWN OUT....Only
the Air Canada proxy (the green sheet)should be completed and returned.
Proper completion of the Air Canada proxy means the boxes (2) on the left
under Airco must be marked...AGAINST....with the boxes on the right (4)
under Air Canada must be marked....FOR....The form must be signed, dated and
sent to the return address.
If you wish a fax copy of a properly completed Air Canada proxy please email
a fax number SAP.
Regards, Saville  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. In view of the recent incidents with Payne Stewart and another one in
Europe with a member of the European PGA tour, Vesta, our chief pilot
thought this web site may be of interest -
Subject: Decompression
Anyone interested in an authoritative article on decompression, which
the media is suggesting is the cause of the recent Lear Jet crash,
should go to www.aviationweek.com and click on their special report on
decompression.
It is reports like this and other authoritative articles posted there
that entice me to visit the Aviation Week website every day.
Caution, the decompression report is not recommended for those with a
fear of flying. It is also aimed at pilots and uses some aviation
jargon.

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. Need to know.
The following query was posed by Charles Ward -

Here is a question you might be able to find an answer for. Several days
ago I checked in for a flight from Montreal for which I had not registered
in advance. I was informed by the standby agent that when an employee had
not registered, the check in agent often typed in their seniority date as
joining the company on that day. This would certainly put you at the end of
the list.  There are many reasons for not registering for a flight ranging
from the difficulty in getting through on the employee center line to a
last minute change of plans. Does the opinion expressed to me represent a
new company policy that we have not been informed about.
C.G.Ward      This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Response -

Subject: Re: non listing
I have received some feedback from ECC and Customer Service
regarding the situation as described below.

In the case of emergency travel or last-minute change of plans,
airport check-in agents should be able to enter the employee's date
of joining or the retiree's length of service accurately.  However,
if they do not have the time to do so, they just create a dummy PNR
for that particular flight with the employee name and the C
priority.

In order to avoid incorrect date of joining or length of service
entered and creation of PNR's at the time of checking-in at every
enplaning station, it is recommended that registration through the
Employee Call Centre be made prior to proceeding to the airport. 
This has been in effect for years (by calling Reservations office
before ECC came on board) and this policy has not changed.

There are several ways to do so:  by calling ECC, by registering
through BART system (for active employees) or by sending a fax to
(204) 941 2231.

Hope I have been able to clarify this matter.

Regards,
Linda

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. We recently welcomed Len Callaghan, here is a short bio -
I retired from Air Canada on January lst/99 after 35 years of service.
Most recently,  I received a copy of your news letter from Stew Stockfish
in the Soo.
The information and updates on key issues were most informative and
interesting.  Please include me on your mailing list for future issues.
Company history - Station Attendant - l963
- GM-Cust. Service - Alberta - l994
- GM-Cust. Service - Toronto - l996
- GM-Airports,North America - l998
Regards,   Len Callaghan  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

And Myron  Zegarchuk has joined our readership, here's a bio -
I was hired in YYZ and sent to YWG  for training. After spending
several months on the teleype, radio etc I was posted to YQM,
then spent the war years in YQX and YJT. Next came YYC and then
FLt Radio at YUL. When that folded there were more transfers and postings,
YYB, YTS,YQT,YJT,YSJ,YUL,YSJ, and finaly a bid on YYJ and retirement
in YSJ, where I have been since. My employee number was 99735 dated
Aug 24, l942. So it has been a while. I've seen a lot of country here and
elsewhere and met and worked with many co workers in TCA and AC and
enjoyed it very much. Sincerely,  Zig.      This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.

RETURN OF THE VULCAN:
No, not Spock.  We're talking about the Vulcan jet bomber, the last of
which to fly taxied down a runway in England earlier this month.
The rotund lady hasn't sung yet, though.  The project team at The Vulcan
Operating Company is working to find money to restore the Vulcan to airshow
flying status.  Of the 16 remaining Vulcans, 13 are static displays;
the other three can taxi only.
(It was on Oct 1st 1956 when Vulcan XA897 crashed at Heathrow LHR while
attempting to land on runway 10L. The Trans-Canada Air Lines operations
offices were parallel to this runway about 50 yards away and the crash
was adjacent to the offices - your co-pilot was working there that day)

Imagine what the insurance claim read -
Recently, an NWA DC-9 departing Chicago's Midway Airport lost a tire,
which rolled through a fence and hit a car.  A pregnant woman in the car
was taken to the hospital for observation, and the plane continued on,
landing safely.

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. A friend of our Chief Pilot Vesta sends this -
My friend came back from Zurich on Air Canada. He said his passport was
checked in Zurich twice. It was announced by the attendant on arrival
that passports would be checked again by Canadian officials before any
deplanement in YYZ, as a new regulation.
So maybe they are getting tough in YYZ.
I know that if an illegal is found on landing on Canadian soil then the
carrying airline is heavily fined and is responsible for return passage.
Maybe they are just going to keep the illegals on the plane so that they
don't put their foot on Canadian soil and therefore cannot get to a lawyer.

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. Smilie.

Your co-pilot found this -
"We have on board an 86 year old gentleman making his first flight today!
So say hello to the captain on your way off the airplane".
Actual announcement by a flight attendant for the former Western Pacific.


From Gordon Dalziel
More of what Their Acronym Stands For
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DELTA     ---- Don't Even Leave The Airport
Don't Ever Leave The Airport
Don't Even Let Them Aboard
Departing Even Later Than Anticipated
EAL (Eastern) --  Eastern's Always Late
ELAL         ---  Every Landing Always Late
JAT (Yugoslav Airlines)  --  Joke About Time
LOT (Polish Airlines) -- Last One There
Luggage On Tarmac (wave 'bye!)
PA (Philippine Airways)  -- Please Avoid
PAL (Phil. Airlines)   ---  Philippines Always Late
PAN AM                 -- Plan On Arriving Nervewracked And Mad
PIA (Pakistan Intl.Airl)  ---  Please Inform Allah
Panic In Air
Perhaps I Arrive
QANTAS                    -- Queer And Nasty Types As Stewards
SABENA (Belgium)          -- Such A Bloody Experience, Never Again
Such A Bad Experience, Never Again
SAHSA (Servicio Aero Honduras SA)  --Stay At Home, Stay Alive
SAS (Scandinavian Airl. System)   -- Sweet And Sexy
Sex And Service
SIA (Singapore Intl.Airl.)        -  So Incredible, Aah
TACA                             --- Take A Chance Airline
TAP (Portuguese Airl.)            -- Take Another Plane
TWA (Transworld Airl.)            -- Travel Without Arrival
Try Walking Again
The Worst Airline
Took Wrong Airline
Try Walking Across
Travel With Arabs
Terrorist Welcome Aboard
Terrorists With Arms
Teenie Weenie Airlines
Traveling Without Air
Tiny Wings Aflappin'!!!!!
USAir                  --- Unfortunately, Still Alleghany In Reality


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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
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