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Number 421   Date Nov 3rd, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. DID YOU KNOW?
Important reminder, for all new articles, submissions and or comments
for the "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - Netletter" please send to:
mailto:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
This e-mail address has been set up so that both of us (exclusively)
will get an automatic copy and can keep up with the continuity of news
for the netletter.

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. We welcome -
Gerry Gough retired P.A. lives in Delta, BC email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
J(Jim)L. Greig  - Retired and living in Yarmouth, N.S. (YQI)
Jim  joined us in 1955 - - retired as Customer Service Manager
(YQI) in 1987. Then  worked with Air Nova in  YQI as CSM from
1987 to 1994. He is presently President of the Chamber of Commerce
there and can be contacted  as follows     e-mail:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  


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. Where are they now?
Patrick C. Taylor Was: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  Now: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
This is the new Email for Claude Brodeur presently living in Stoke QC,
Old email <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>   New email <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Don Edwards retired Quality Mgr Components & Standards living in
Stittsville, ON   email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. NOW READ THIS!
Hello Everyone;
So that there is no mistake on proxy votes by Air Canada shareholders,
please inform your local membership that the Horizons Hot Line is
recommending the Onex proxy form (the pink sheet) be....THROWN OUT....Only
the Air Canada proxy (the green sheet)should be completed and returned.
Proper completion of the Air Canada proxy means the boxes (2) on the left
under Airco must be marked...AGAINST....with the boxes on the right (4)
under Air Canada must be marked....FOR....The form must be signed, dated and
sent to the return address. (Watch the DEADLINE date).
If you wish a fax copy of a properly completed Air Canada proxy please
email a fax number SAP.
Regards, Saville Hambleton - President Pionairs.
email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

From Horizons Daily -
We've only received 50% of employee shareholders' proxy/voting cards.
The November 7 deadline is approaching. As the November 8 Shareholders'
meeting approaches, it's imperative that you stand up and be counted.
A second mailing with a reminder letter, additional proxy/voting
card, and return envelope is on its way to you and to Personnel Services
offices across the system.
Please take the time to complete, sign, and return the green proxy/voting
card. Fax the completed forms to (514) 876-2502.
If you support Air Canada, don't do anything with the pink proxy card
sent by Onex.

Mae Watson sends this urgent notice -
The following may already be known to you, but f.y.i...
I just received shocking information (to me, at least) from a concerned
active employee at Toronto Airport.  All employees' voice mail contains a
message that only 4,000 of a total of 130,000 employee shareholders have
returned their proxies.  Can one assume that these figures include retired
employees?
Saville Hambleton's message may act as a reminder to those Pionairs who
haven't mailed their proxies.
Regards,   Mae Watson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. During a recent tour of the Boeing plant in Everett, Washington,
we were told that Boeing has instituted a scheme which provides financial
assistance to its employees wishing to take lessons for a pilots license.
The present test pilot is a female who was originally employed as a
secretary/typist and said she would like to become a test pilot.
Her dream was fulfilled.

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. Found on the internet.
At Southwest Airlines, which took off in June 1971 and for which the fun
- and profits - have never stopped, the pay cheques are signed
'From our customers'.
The Personnel Office is named 'The People Department'.


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. Like anyone else, we like to hear from our readership, and to know that
our NetLetter is passed around -

Please keep up the good work. You'd be pleased to know that your
"BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" is often discussed around the water
cooler in Material Management and where they're are still a few
veterans around.
Thanks again         Dennis Brown
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Thanks to you for listing my email address. 
An old friend came across my name.
What a surprise it was..
We had not met for at least 40 years ago.
Once again thanks 
George Suboni" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
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Congratulations on hitting the 400 mark!! Every issue is a Homerun!!!
Besides providing an excellent source of Ac retiree news you provide
the glue to keep us all together
Regards, Fraser Oshaughnessy, Director,Pionairs, Toronto Section
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Hi Terry & Vesta: Hearty congratulations on your 400+ issue.
Your efforts are very much appreciated and I know we don't let you know
often enough. Shirley Jay, Edmonton


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. For the L1011 affectionado -
Chileinter ceased operations in June. Its two L1011-100 Tristars were
leased from Royal Airlines of Montreal and have been ferried back to
YUL for storage prior to being sold. The L1011-100 were c/n 1058 and
c/n 1069, both originally with Air Canada as CF-TNI fin 509 and
CF-TNK fin 511.

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.   Alan MacLeod sends another update on CF-TCC -
The Lockheed has been stored for the winter. It finished flying on the
25th of September at St. Andrews, Manitoba. The Winnipeg flying club
hosted a 75th anniversary celebration that weekend and Tango Charlie
Charlie was there.
Tango Charlie Charlie flew four flights there that day in support of the
DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT. The flights were full and apparently there was an
eager "wait list". Capt. Reid and Captain Norberg did the honors. When
the day was finished the aircraft went back to Winnipeg and went into
the hangar for some grooming and scheduled maintenance. From there
it was a tow over to the Western Canada Aviation Museum and "home at
last".
TCC flew 156 hrs and 18 mins this season. She carried one thousand three
hundred and twenty nine passengers between April 22th and September
25th. Only one day of scheduled flying had to be canceled due to
uncooperative weather. This was in St. John where fog frustrated her
attempts throughout the day. There was one "delayed" flight in July for
a mechanical. This was the only delay all year.
Now how's that for performance !!
Congratulations to all who maintained and supported our operation. This
was the most successful year I can recall for the DREAMS FLIGHT,
especially from a standpoint of interested people coming out to see and
visit the aircraft.
Alan MacLeod  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
(Thanks for the continuous stream of information re CF-TCC - eds)

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. Ken Flack, Pionair living on Vancouver Island, his wife and buddy travel
partners are on a 147 day cruise from Athens Greece return. Departing on
November 15th organised by the World Cruise Co, Last Frontier the inaugural
cruise which takes in Antartica and the Pitcairn Islands. On board are
several courses offered in languages, computers, astronomy, oceanography,
Earth Sciences and, of course, food! One aspect of the cruise is to take
kits consisting of children school items ie ruled paper, ruler, pencils,
crayons, erasers all contained in ziplock bags for distribution by the
passengers to some of the children on some of the various islands visited.
Ken has promised us some information on his return.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Dargal sends us this update -
Experience this breathtaking itinerary to the Southern Caribbean
aboard Holland America's newest luxury cruise ship, the Volendam.
December 2 ~ 10 Nights  ~ Volendam
Ft. Lauderdale, At Sea, St. John's/Antigua, Castries:Souffriere/St. Lucia,
Bridgetown/Barbados, Pointe-a-Pitre:Basse-Terre/Guadeloupe, St. John/USVI,
St. Thomas/USVI, At Sea, Nassau/Bahamas, Ft. Lauderdale
Inside $700   Outside $900
Parents and In-laws welcome traveling without an Interliner.
All rates are US$ per person, based on double occupancy
and subject to availability and eligibility. New bookings only.
Port charges/Govt fees are additional. PLEASE QUOTE EM # 102799
For more information on these and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223

Magellan 21st Century at 1-800-345-7576 offer these trips-
*****Radisson Seven Seas*****
All rates listed below are per person, per day,  do not include port
charges, and are subject to availability.
Paul Gauguin - 14NT Tahiti/Marquesas - 11/20/99 Rates are $225pp/pd
Paul Gauguin - 7NT Tahiti - Roundtrip Papeete - 12/11/99 Rates $225pp/pd
Radisson Diamond - 6NT Caribbean - 11/27 & 11/23
Sail roundtrip from San Juan Rates are $225pp/pd
Radisson Diamond - 7NT Panama Canal - 11/29/99
Sail from San Juan to Balboa Rates are $225pp/pd
Radisson Diamond - 10NT Panama Canal - 12/17/99
Sail from Costa Rica to San Juan Rates are $225pp/pd
Song of Flower - 9NT Dubai to Bombay - 11/9/99 Rates are $250pp/pd
Song of Flower - 11NT Bombay to Singapore - 11/18/99 Rates are $250pp/pd
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Radisson Diamond - 16NT Transatlantic - 5/2/00
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Radisson Diamond - 8NT Nice to Lisbon - 6/10/00 Rates are $250pp/pd
Radisson Diamond - 7NT Lisbon to Dover - 6/18/00 Rates are $225pp/pd
Radisson Diamond - 7NT Rome to Istanbul - 9/29/00 Rates are $225pp/pd
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Song of Flower - 9NT New Zealand Highlights
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2/12/00, 2/21/00 Rates are $175pp/pd
Song of Flower - 7NT Istanbul to Rome - 6/5/00 Rates are $250pp/pd
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Call now while space is still available - 1-800-345-7576
Radisson interline rates apply to airline employees,
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retired airline employees, and friends sharing accommodations with
eligible interline persons. 




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. Smilie.
From Gordon Dalziel
More of what Their Acronym Stands For
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QANTAS                    -- Queer And Nasty Types As Stewards
SABENA (Belgium)          -- Such A Bloody Experience, Never Again
Such A Bad Experience, Never Again
SAHSA (Servicio Aero Honduras SA)  --Stay At Home, Stay Alive
SAS (Scandinavian Airl. System)   -- Sweet And Sexy
Sex And Service
SIA (Singapore Intl.Airl.)        -  So Incredible, Aah
TACA                             --- Take A Chance Airline
TAP (Portuguese Airl.)            -- Take Another Plane
TWA (Transworld Airl.)            -- Travel Without Arrival
Try Walking Again
The Worst Airline
Took Wrong Airline
Try Walking Across
Travel With Arabs
Terrorist Welcome Aboard
Terrorists With Arms
Teenie Weenie Airlines
Traveling Without Air
Tiny Wings Aflappin'!!!!!
USAir                  --- Unfortunately, Still Alleghany In Reality


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