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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/

Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net

Number 427   Date Nov 24th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. DID YOU KNOW?
Important reminder, for all new articles, submissions and or comments
for the "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - Netletter" please send to:
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This e-mail address has been set up so that both of us (exclusively)
will get an automatic copy and can keep up with the continuity of news
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. Welcome to
Wayne Holmes, retired and living in Sidney, BC.
email for Wayne is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Gerry Stasiuk retired Director and living in Seoul, S. Korea
email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Lorraine Horsley is the Pionair Director here in Edmonton
email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
Rick St. Maurice and Lili have moved to Hong Kong their new email
is  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Andy Mercer is now at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Jack Cooke is still at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
New E-mail address for Rosemary Jobson, Kelowna: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Email for Rochelle Trunn should read   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Unable to connect with Ann Dickson on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Need to know.
Diane Carrignan of Employee Communications sends this information -

Policy change—delayed baggage delivery for non-revenue and reduced rate
passengers. Effective immediately, Air Canada will make arrangements to
deliver delayed or mishandled baggage at no charge for non-revenue and
reduced rate passengers, including active and retired employees, family
members, parents, travel partners, and other airline staff.
For delivery arrangements, contact the Central Baggage Office at
(888) 689-2247 from anywhere in North America or the Caribbean,
or call the Air Canada Baggage Office at the nearest airport.

Planning a trip soon? Review our non-revenue dress code before leaving
for the airport. Recently, the number of employees, family members,
and travel partners who’re not attired in accordance with the Company’s
dress code has risen. This creates an awkward situation for Customer
Service colleagues at the airports, and your cooperation is appreciated.
Please review the dress code prior to departure. Failure to comply could
leave you grounded because, if Hospitality Service is full, non-revenue
passengers won’t be upgraded to Executive First or Executive Class unless
appropriately dressed.
(We suggest that you update your Air Canada Travel Guide with the above
items - eds)

Do you have a question about the share purchase offer? Shareholders
Communications can only answer questions about the share purchase offer.
Review the information sent to your home first before calling them,
toll free from anywhere in North America, at (800) 890-1037.
Call your local Personnel Services office with questions about the
employee shareholder plans.

Participants wanted: The Trans Canada Trail Relay 2000. The Trans Canada
Trail Foundation is looking for 5,000 Official Carriers to inaugurate its
16,100 km trail—the longest recreational trail in the world.
For the past two years, Air Canada has been the exclusive airline of the
Foundation. You can be part of history by walking, running,
horseback riding, roller-blading, cross-country skiing,
or snowmobiling 1-10 kms of the cross-Canada Trail in your community.
From February-September 2000, participants will transport waters across
the Trail from the Arctic, Atlantic, and Pacific Oceans in specially
designed waterproof backpacks.
For details call (800) 465-3636 toll free or check out the website at
http://www.tctrail.ca
Forms are also available at all Canadian post offices.

There’s something new on the Employee Call Centre line: monitored calls.
If you’ve phoned the ECC lately, you may have noticed the new voice prompts
advising you the call may be monitored or recorded for service quality.
This is common practice for most North American Call Centres, and was
recently added to Air Canada’s Aeroplan Reservations and ECC lines as a
courtesy to customers and employees.

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. News from the districts.
Mitch Mitchell sends us this from the Halifax Pionairs -
Just thought I would let you know the Halifax Pionairs Christmas party
will be held on Wednesday, Dec. 8th, 7pm at Armdale Yacht Club,  it will
consist of the usual dinner, dance, etc, cost $25.00 couple, $12.50 single.
All the best for the season.
Mitch  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

From the Winnipeg District, Stephanie Mandzie, in the newsletter
Stephanie  tells us -
The Winnipeg Air Canada Retirement Club is once again extending an
invitation to ALL Air Canada Pionair members to attend a Christmas Party
on December 3rd at the Masonic Temple - 420 Corydon Ave (known locally
as 'confusion corner'.
The festivities start at 18:00 with a cocktail party, followed by a
sitdown dinner at 19:00. Cost is $20.00 for members, $24.00 for others.
Come out and enjoy good food, door prizes, great music, spot dances and,
best of all, good friendship. Santa said he would be there!
Tickets from Carol Malec 831-9814, Mike Lewicki 837-8273,
Gord Drysdale 667-2337, Irene De Gagne 837-3599,
Gary Sands 888-6003 or Stephanie Mandzie 489-3060.
Tickets will be held at the door, but cheques, made out to
Air Canada Retirement Club and send to -
Gary Sands, 917 - 96 Quail Ridge Rd, Winnipeg or
Stephanie Mandzie, 591, Campbell St. Winnipeg, MB, N3R 1C2.
DEADLINE: November 27th.
A reminder that the Pionair Curling will be hosted by Winnipeg on
February 23-24th., 2000. Contact Peter Paley, (204)667-2088 or
Wayne Oliver (204)488-6142 or
check the upcoming 'Horizons; ' for details.

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. Help wanted!
Margaret Cantwell is looking for some help -
Friends of mine - Joyce and Tom Butler  would very much like to contact
a Mr. Ralph Baaddsvik who is one of our Air Canada Pilots. If anyone knows
his whereabouts or if he sees it in the newsletter would he please give
me a call. Either by phone (250) 658 2922 or E Mail  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
or by mail to 377 Walton Place, R.R.#3 Victoria, B.C. V8X3X1.
or fax 250 658 2936 then I will pass on the information to Mrs. Butler so
she can contact Ralph.
Cheers for now...Margaret C. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.
A new Star Alliance scheme has been applied to an All Nippon Airways
Boeing B767-381 as a prelude to joining the members of the Star Alliance.
A photo of this aircraft can be viewed at the web site.
Why not check out the Air Canada Retired Employees Web Site
http://www.acfamily.net/acrew/
webmaster is Tom Grant.

The Go Fly airline started up by British Airways as a low cost, low fare
competitor in the UK has a fleet of 13 B737 aircraft. Each aircraft has
a different coloured belly and engine nacelles with two different motifs
on the fuselage -
go again & let's go  turquoise, go today & just go  purple,
go together & ready to go  pink, go now & all go  aqua green,
go often & come and go  red, go for it & don't wait go  olive green,
go enjoy & away we go  yellow green, go anytime & free to go  medium blue,
go as you are & get set go  purple blue,
go exploring & love to go terracotta, go for a break & off we go  purple,
go ahead & away we go  pink.

The world's first commercial jumbo jet, introduced by The Boeing Co. in
1970, will be honored on a commemorative stamp to be issued in New York
City.  Boeing can crow that the public selected the B747 stamp
during nationwide balloting in September 1998 as part of the U.S. Postal
Service's "Celebrate The Century" series.  Boeing shouldn't brag too
much, though -- the ubiquitous and accursed Smiley Face also made the
cut.

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Air Doughnut!
There may be a place for distinctive Canadian cuisine on the new Regional
Airline proposed by entrepreneur Robert Deluce. In his plan to buy the
regional subs of Air Canada and Canadian Airlines. Mr Deluce is backed by
several financiers including Ron Joyce who built the Tim Horton doughnut
chain. Mr Deluce said it is still too early to say whether his new airline
would serve doughnuts for dinner instead of the classic rubbery chicken.'


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. David and Marie Williams recently visited White Rock BC, and here are
a couple of B&B's in that area -
It was my 1st time to this location and both my wife and I fell in love
with the place, there are several B & B places and depending on the time
of the year the cost varies. My son drove down there as he lives in Langley
and did some scouting for us as I was unlucky in getting any response
from any Air Canada people (thanks again for posting it in the netletter).
The place we stayed was called Castillo Del Mar - Spectacular view across
the beach. Private entrance, totally contained upper suite, 2 bedrooms,
with balcony off the living room(where we ate breakfast/lunch),
kitchenette.T.V / VCR microwave. Access to all the shops etc as located on
Marine Drive.  No Smoking and children welcome. The host is a very nice
lady Laurie Kiselich
Address is: 14741 Marine Drive, White Rock, B.C.V4B 1B9  604-541-2973
Fax (604) 541-2910
If anyone is interested, make sure they tell her that they are AC employees
or retired AC employees and that David & Marie Williams recommmended the
place.  The price is negotiable based on length of stay.  She had a couple
arriving after us on Nov 1st to stay the winter there. One parking spot.
There was another place called Beachcomber B & B located at 14591 Marine
Drive, White Rock.  The guy is most friendly there too:
Deluxe accommodation in a lovely new home with incredible views from the
comfortable sitting room, dining room and kitchen. Elegant honeymoon suite
with sunrise view of ocean and islands, plenty of parking.
No smoking / no pets. (604) 536-4306 0r 535-9434.
These are the only 2 we kept stuff on however there are several places.
Best regards  David & Marie Williams  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's Travel tips.

Britain - France.
Eurotunnel has cancelled ALL commercial traffic through the Channel
Tunnel on the night of December 31st 1999.

ZED fares in Europe from London LHR -
The following are within 151 to 450 miles from London -
Amsterdam, Basle, Brussels, Cologne, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Hamburg,
Hanover, Luxembourg and Paris.
The following are within 451 and 750 miles from London -
Barcelona, Berlin, Bilbao, Bologna, Copenhagen, Genoa, Geneva,
Gothenburg, Lyon, Marseille, Milan, Montpellier, Munich, Nice, Oslo,
Pisa, Prague, Stavenger, Stuttgart, Venice, Verona and Zurich.

Panama Canal.
14 nights - Celebrity Zenith - departs Jan 9th
San Diego, Cabo San Lucas, Acapulco, Puerto Caldera, Panama Canal,
Cartagena, Aruba, St.Thomas and San Juan.
Inside us$779 ppdbl Ocean viewe us$879 ppdbl.
14 nights - Celebrity Zenith - departs Mar 5th
Reverse itinerary of above, same price.
14 nights - Celebrity Zenith - departs  April 2nd
San Juan, Tortola, Barbados, Orinoco River, Puerto Ordaz,
Devil's Island, Trinidad, Grenada, Guadeloupe, St.Thomas and San Juan.
Inside us$779 ppdbl Ocean View us$879 ppdbl.
All port charges/Gov't fees additional.
Call Dargal 1-800-690-3223 for more information.

Barcelona - 4 night break departs December 4th
Includes return airfare from Gatwick Airport. cost from GBP199.00 pp.
Madrid - 5 days break departs December 4th
Includes return airfare from Gatwick Airport. Cost from GBP199.00 pp.
Call UK 020-8335-4466 for more information.




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. Smilie.
Eurocontrol -
British Airways 206: Good morning Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of the
active.
Frankfurt ground control: Guten Morgen, taxi to your gate.
British Airways pulls onto the main taxi-way and stops.
Ground: Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?
B.A.: Standby, ground. I'm looking up the gate location now.
Ground: Speedbird 206, have you never flown to Frankfurt before?
B.A.(cooly): Yes, in 1944. But I didn't stop.

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