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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net

Number 430   Date Dec 4th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

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. DID YOU KNOW?
You can read or retrieve back issues of the BYN?
Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" subscribers
and you will need the following password to enter -
User Name: byn  Password: vesta

UPDATE: new BYN Policy...   re the BYN Archives: they have now been
updated to current issue of "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter"
(courtesy Alan Rust) and will be updated on monthly basis to help
the Snowbirds when they return North.

Why not check out the Air Canada Retired Employees Web Site
http://www.acfamily.net/acrew/
webmaster is Tom Grant.

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. We welcome -
George  Mills email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired captain lives
in Winnipeg, MN
Danka & Conrad Karsen email:          This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
retired Sales Rep. lives in Darnley, PEI
Robert Ware retired Aircraft Mechanic living in Peterborough, ON
email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Pamela Price retired Sales Agent lives in Toronto, ON
email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now.
Unable to contact Audrey Pattison on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
George and Esther McKillop  Delta BC now at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Arthur Adamson is now at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
Renato Folgado is now on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. For the Lockheed 10A affectionados -
This article found by Tony Etherodge in the UK.
Donkey Power!
The story is of a Lockheed 10A Electra which crashed in the Outback of
Australia in 1942. According to the article, the drama began with a
family's escape from the Japanese invasion of Singapore. Frank Colquhoun
a retired aviation engineer from High Wycombe Australia said the English
family's releif at reaching Australia turned to alarm when their next
flight from Darwin to Broome, crash-landed in a black soil bog 80 kms
north-east of Derby. Mr Colquhoun was called up from Perth to get the
plane airborne again and he and two men worked for a month, camping next
to the plane, before deciding that the only way to move it from the bog
was to use a team of donkeys. The passengers included a mother and her
two sons, one of whom was quite ill, and an emergency makeshift runway
had to be constructed by the salcage engineers to enable a small Cessna
to land and rescue the family. This they managed to do reasonably quickly
but it was a very hard task for the donkeys to tow the plane across an
8 foot wide creek, which was about 6 foot deep. Three crossings had to
be built. two for the aircraft wheels and a central one for the donkeys.
The whole operation took about 5/6 weeks.

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. Remember when?
Alan Rust sends this -
AIR CANADA CELEBRATES 50 YEARS OF SERVICE TO BARBADOS
50 years ago, Air Canada, then known as Trans-Canada Air Lines (TCA),
inaugurated weekly passenger services between Canada and Barbados when its
40-passenger propeller aircraft, the Canadair DC-4M ``North Star'', landed
on the coral surfaced runway in the early morning of December 3rd, 1949.
Flight time out of Toronto was 15 hours with stops in the Bahamas and
Jamaica.
This winter, Air Canada will offer daily non-stop Toronto-Barbados
service operating a new 284-passenger Airbus A340, with a supplemental
service on Sundays from Montreal with an Airbus A320.
Today, Air Canada's non-stop flight from Toronto to Barbados takes
5 hours and 10 minutes.
(Anyone witness this event and can tell us more? - eds)

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. From the RAPCAN newsletter issued by Duane Frerichs -
November 25, 1999 - Smelly Passenger Delays SAS Airliner Takeoff
OSLO, Norway  - A smelly passenger held up the takeoff of a Scandinavian
Airlines System flight from London for six hours as technicians scoured
the plane for a phantom fault.
SAS evacuated all the passengers from the Oslo-bound flight on Monday
after cabin crew noticed a pungent oily odour which they feared was a
fuel leak or fire. But technicians found nothing amiss.
Airline staff eventually discovered that the source of the smell was a
passenger with a new oilskin coat. Oilskin is a cloth made waterproof
with an oil treatment, and new garments often smell.

November 26, 1999 - Plane Goes Down In Lake Winnipeg
WINNIPEG, Canada - The search continues for a single-engine plane that went
down in Lake Winnipeg near Reindeer Island on Thursday.
Milton Menzies the pilot of this missing plane was a pilot for Air Canada
from about 1966 to 1983. Milt was from Baysville, ON. He resigned from Air
Canada as a DC 9 Captain to take up flying missionary duties with the
Shantymen administering to natives in the interlake region of Manitoba.

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. News from the districts.
Ken McLoed sends this reminder of the party mentioned in NetLetter 427 -
"This is a reminder to all Pionairs in the Halifax area (and also to
any other Pionairs from across our vast domain who might be in the
area!!) that our Christmas Party is on Wednesday, Dec 8th at the
Armdale Yacht Club starting at 1900 for cocktails, Dinner at 2000
which is a fabulous roast beef with all the trimmings and a live band
to dance to later on... all this for only $ 25.00 per couple or
50% disc for singles..ie.$ 12.50...Sound like a deal!!..It is!!...
So everyone is welcome, tickets at the door!! ""
Have a Merry Christmas and all the best of course for
...2000!!...Cheers.
Ken Mcleod  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.       For the Halifax Pionairs

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. Tom Grant sends this -
Thought your readers might be interested in an article just put online
in the RAPCAN website regarding a passengers crossing on the great airship.
It is at www.acfamily.net/rapcan  go to the Bulletin Page.

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. For you readers of aviation books -
Ross Smyth sends this message -
Subject: Interesting Book
I have just completed reading a very interesting book, DOUBLE CROSS,
by Shirley Render of Winnipeg about early air pioneer James Richardson,
often called the father of Canadian aviation.
Readers will be expecially interested in the political background leading
up to the formation of TCA in 1937.
Ross Smyth This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Found on the internet.
HOLIDAY CHEER -- WINDOWS FOR REMY:
In Remy, France, 55 years ago, the U.S. 383rd fighter squadron strafed a
German munitions train.  The train exploded, shattering nearly all the
town's windows -- including seven of stained glass in the 13th-century
Church of St. Denis.  Efforts were made to raise $200,000 to replace
those windows -- and many contributed to the cause.
The first window went up Saturday.  Learn more about it at
<http://www.remy.org>.

AREN'T YOU GLAD BILL HAS HIS OWN PLANE?
Next time you fly Air Zimbabwe, be sure to check who's riding in business
class.  The passengers of a recent Flight UM9724 from Zimbabwe to London
were dismayed when their plane made a six-hour unscheduled diversion
to Madrid to drop off Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe, causing many
to miss their connections.  Evidently the government didn't feel any
obligation to notify passengers or travel agents in time for them to make
alternate arrangements.

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. Terry's travel tips.
W.A.C.A. advises some of the early tours planned for 2000 -
Date  Name of Event            Hosting Club Deadline for  Cost
registrations
MAR10-20 Thailand Excursion 2000 THAILAND     05FEB00           US$595
20-27 China Capitals Tour     THAILAND     05FEB00           US$805
APR
Sugaring Off            MONTREAL     20FEB00           CA$295
Swiss Winterbreak       BASLE        18FEB00           CHF780
WACA Ski Races          CALGARY      10FEB00           CA$920
Cedarland Tour          LEBANON      10APR00           US$600
MAY07-11 Escape to the Cape      CAPETOWN     06MAR00           US$390
13-18 Kenya Safari            NAIROBI      TBA               TBA
Contact your local Interline club for more details.

Canadian Interline Travel Ltd.
Vision of the Seas - Alaska
6 Nights - September 24 2000
Vancouver, Inside Passage, Hubbard Glacier, Skagway, Haines, Juneau,
Ketchikan, Misty Fjords, Inside Passage, Vancouver.
Cat Z from $554us ppdbl, Cat Y from $604us ppdbl,
Cat X $654us ppdbl.
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Zenith - South America / Orinoco River
14 Nights - April 2 2000
San Juan, Tortola , at Sea, Barbados, Orinoco River, Puerto Ordaz (2),
Orinoco River, at Sea, Devil's Island, at Sea, Trinidad, Grenada,
Guadeloupe, St. Thomas, San Juan
Inside  from $779us per ppdbl, Outside from $1479us ppdbl
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Rhapsody of the Seas - Mexican Riviera
7 Nights - February 6 2000
Los Angeles, at Sea, Cabo San Lucas, Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta,
at Sea (2 days), Los Angeles
Inside from $274usd ppdbl Outside from $374usd ppdbl
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IMPORTANT:  These offers may be time-sensitive and capacity controlled.
All prices are Per Person, Double  Occupancy and do not include Air,
Port and Taxes.
To ensure the best price, contact Canadian Interline Travel today for
a firm quote at 1-800-665-3100.
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ELIGIBILITY:  Active airline employees, spouse,
dependent, parent, parents-in-law (select cruise lines),
retired airline employees and friends sharing accommodation.

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. Smilies.

Your co-pilot found this -
A future announcement which maybe heard at an airport near you!
"No more cramped seating! Our seat sales were so successful that all our
flights are now standing room onl, giving more leg room than ever before".
In view of the recent take-over attempt -
"Security has been increased to eliminate any risk of a hostile takeover!"

Lawson Tremellon sends us these -
Computer Terminology

486 - The average IQ needed to understand a PC.
State of the art - Any computer you can't afford.
Obsolete - Any computer you own.
Microsecond - The time it takes for your state-of-the-art computer
to become obsolete.
G3 - Apple's new Macs that make you say "Gee, three times faster than
the computer I bought for the same price a Microsecond ago."
Syntax Error - Walking into a computer store and saying, "Hi, I want
to buy a computer and money is no object."
Hard Drive - The sales technique employed by computer salesmen,
esp. after a Syntax Error.
GUI - What your computer becomes after spilling your coffee on it.
(pronounced "gooey")
Keyboard - The standard way to generate computer errors.
Mouse - An advanced input device to make computer errors easier to
generate.
Floppy - The state of your wallet after purchasing a computer.
Portable Computer - A device invented to force businessmen to work
at home, on vacation, and on business trips.
Disk Crash - A typical computer response to any critical deadline.
Power User - Anyone who can format a disk from DOS.
System Update - A quick method of trashing ALL of your software.
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