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Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter Since 1995

Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter

Since 1995



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Number 473  April 20th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995


Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   -    Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. Need to know.
RUMOURS


Rumour: The Competition Bureau isn't happy with the way the
integration of Air Canada (AC) and Canadian Airlines (CDN) is
evolving.
Truth: This is false. While the process is taking longer than
expected, AC has committed to meeting all requirements established by
the federal government and the Competition Bureau.


Rumour: Canadian Regional Airlines' (CRA) part time employees are
working 25 hours a week. As a consequence, AC part time employees are
experiencing reduced hours.
Truth: This is false.


Rumour: Administrative and Technical Service (A&TS) employees at CDN
are unionised. Their jobs will be protected at the expense of AC's
non-unionised A&TS employees.
Truth: This is false.


Rumour: The Voluntary Separation Program (VSP) applies only to
Canadian-based employees.
Truth: This is false. The primary function of the VSP is to address
imbalances and surpluses caused by integration. The final details of
the VSP are being completed. In late April, eligible employees will
receive a detailed information package. AC will provide a 1-800 number
to assist these employees in answering questions regarding the
Program.


Rumour: AC will layoff 800 CDN Cabin Services staff at the end of the
two-year commitment of no layoffs.
Truth: Like many areas of both airlines' operations, integration teams
have been looking at how we conduct our business and various options
are being considered, but no decisions have yet been made


QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS


Q: AC Call Centres have been advised to accept and book reservations
on CDN. Have the CDN Call Centres been advised to book AC?
A: Yes.


Q: Why aren't we giving AC all the Toronto-Ottawa flights, and CDN
another route entirely? What's the rationale for splitting the route?
A: The decision to share the routes is based on our objective to look
at the combined fleet and make our decision based on providing the
right aircraft to the right market at the right time.


Q: What's the status of the Regional integration process?
A: An integration structure has been formalized that outlines
responsibilities for core departments and sub teams. The teams are
looking for "quick wins" and synergies in the Regional Airlines'
current operations and the best way to move forward toward a single
Regional airline. In the meantime, the Regional Airlines remain
focused on the priorities of maintaining safe and reliable operations,
and implementing the 2000 Summer schedule.


Send any rumours you've heard to Employee Communications
e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., fax (514) 422-5104, or tely YULNNAC


BOOKING AND LISTING NON REVENUE TRAVEL ON AC-OPERATED FLIGHTS
Canadian Airlines employees and retirees booking non-revenue positive space or
making space available listings on any AC-operated flight, must make a call
directly to AC. You cannot book or list non revenue travel on a CP
codeshare flight number.  Air Canada Call Centre 1-800-413-1113
HOW DO 'WET LEASES' AFFECT PASS TRAVEL
Simply stated, not at all. If CDN is wet leasing aircraft and crew  to AC,
all the CRSs will still show this as an AC-operated flight, and it then
follows that you are flying on AC for pass travel rules. The opposite is
also true, if AC wet leases us a plane with crew, but the flight shows as
CP-operated in Sabre, then you would utilize your CDN pass privileges. So be
sure to check who is stated as the  'operating' carrier,  when you list for the flight.


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. Pab Wispinski sends us some stories from the 60's at YEG -
Rookie Radio Operator, was told to get run-way reports from in-coming files due to
snow and ice.
Incoming flight from Calgary, Operator :" Flight 151 from Edmonton, how did you find
the runway?"
Reply, "  I guess I was Lucky".
Incoming Flights had to report reasons for their delayed arrival, (time on the ground,
arrival at ramp, and reason for  Delay  I.E. Weather, Delay or Air Traffic Control,  Etc.)
Flight landed YEG reported time on and time In. Operator confirmed times, and
questioned what is reason for delay.
Capt Radiod Back:  "  Delay FWR"
Radio operator: " What does that stand for?"
Capt : " Following wrong rail-road"


Be careful when talking to a Pilot -
Back in the days when we had no Bridges for arriving passengers, AsaA Ramp
Supervisor I was walking (rampside) of the terminal Building, and noticed a
Captain walking towards me looking up at the Building and looking confused.
I stopped and said, "Are you lost?".  The Captain looked quite annoyed, and said
quote " I'm never lost, I just don't know where I'm at." Unquote.


Captain & First officerdDeplane ( Again no Bridges)  and are proceeding towards
terminal building.  A passenger stopsthe  First officer and questions him?
The Captain proceeds to operations room. Whenthe  F/O finally arrives,  the
Captain asks him,  "What did the passenger want?" The   First officer replies,
" He wanted to know why you can see the ribs in the Viscount wing as soon as the
aircraft is airborne", the Captain responded  "What did you tell him?"
The First Officer said  " I told him that I guess they didn't make the wing strong enough."
Pab Wispinski(YXD Retired) <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>


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. From the RAPCAN newsletter issued by Duane Frerichs  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
. INTERNATIONAL WINE FESTIVAL OFFERS EMPLOYEE DISCOUNT
The Vancouver Playhouse International Wine Festival takes place Apr.
25-30.  As CDN is a sponsor, both CDN and AC employees are eligible
for a discount on The International Festival Tasting portion of this
event.  The Tasting portion takes place nightly from 1900 to 2200,
April 27 to 29 at the Vancouver Convention and Exhibition Centre.
Tickets are available through Ticketmaster at (604)280-4444 and
employees must identify themselves as working for CDN or AC to
obtain the sponsor discount.  The regular price, including taxes and
service charges is $57.75; employees pay $52.75.  Known as the
"heart" of the Festival, the International Festival Tastings feature
158 wineries from 16 countries, pouring over 600 wines, all under
one roof
TRANSITIONAL LIVERY COVERING CDN'S FLEET
Robert Milton unveiled our new livery to employees and media in the YYZ
Convair Hangar on Feb. 9. Since then, employees have asked, "as the
transition of CDN's livery progresses, how many planes have been painted to
date?" Terry Jones, M&E's Manager of Maintenance Scheduling advised as of
today, a total of 23 B737s have been painted. Another B737 will be painted
in YVR during its heavy  maintenance visit, and is due for completion by Apr. 25.
As well, two B767s have been painted, and a third B767 is currently being
painted in the AC's YYZ paint facility
You can see exciting photos on our website at www.cdnair.ca


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. For the Viscount affectionadoes -
A recent article in a newsgroup was -
Here at St-Hubert airport (CYHU) in Canada, there's a Vickers Viscount that
is parked forever. It carries registration number: "N6225C". Is there any
way to track down its history, who the owner was, if its still fit to fly,
value, manufacture date, etc...
The exterior is pretty well maintained with all its 4 engines. No apparent
damage is visible.  When I went it the cockpit last summer, some instruments
are ripped apart, other than that it seems like a nice plane and I'm
curious to know its backround (since I'm a *BIG* Viscount fan).
Reed Park <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>, one of our readers wrote:
N6225C indicates that it was an American registration.
Canada would have been CF or CG then a 3 letter code
such as CF-TCC. I too have fond memories of many hours in
Viscounts. My Dad used to fly them with TCA which in the
mid 60's became Air Canada.
Regards   Reed
A comment from a Brian Maddison reads -
There never was a Viscount registered N6225C. Somebody probably
painted that on as a joke,
or because they thought it was a Constellation !
Almost certainly this aircraft is C-FTID, a V757 model serial number 384.
Delivered to TCA in March 1959, passed to Air Canada and sold to
Pratt & Whitney (Canada) Nov 1972.
For many years it was used as a flying  testbed for various PW engines and
at one point had a PT6 mounted in the nose. Was replaced by Boeing 720
C-FETB in the 1989 and has been parked at St.Hubert. No longer registered
and not having flown for ten years is probably unlikely to do so again.
A K.R.Crrok writes:
The last scheduled Viscount flights in the world were operated by
British World Airlines in 1996.
There is a museum in the U.S. - the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum in
Reading, PA, - that is restoring a  former Capital Viscount to flyable condition.


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. : Current and former Vancouver Airport / Sea Island Workers are invited to share their memories
and experiences.
Open Houses are currently being conducted 5:30 to 8:30 pm on the second
Thursday of each month from March to June 2000, at the Sea Island Community
Centre, 7140 Miller Road.
Residents, former and present and workers of Sea Island are invited to share
their memories and experiences.
You are or you once may have been associated with Sea Island, Richmond,
British Columbia, Canada (or you had ancestors that were). You may also know
people that were associated with Sea Island. To commemorate the approaching
125th Anniversary of the City of Richmond, British Columbia (B.C.), Canada
in 2004, an ad hoc group of interested volunteers are compiling a history of
Sea Island, its people and industry for a non-profit book titled: "Sea
Island... Arrivals and Departures".
For more information contact:
Doug Eastman   email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Eunice Robinson    email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
or: Sharon Bordeleau,   email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Remember when?
On August 23rd, 1967, three RCAF T-33's flew low over Pointe Claire, QC.
The fly-past was to mark the unveiling of a memorial to commemorate the first
Air Meet ever held in Canada. The meet, known as the First Canadian
International Air Meet was held on a farm at Lakeside Heights in Pointe Claire
in July 1910. Among those present at the unveiling was J.A.D.McCurdy, who
made the first ever flight in Quebec, Walter Brookens, who set a Canadian
altitude record of 3,510 feet, and Count de Lesseps, who electrified the city
by taking off in his B;eriot monoplane, 'Scarabee', and flying a complete
circuit of Montreal. Other guests were G.R.McGregor, at that time President of
Air Canada.
The memorial, which stands in the grounds of the Pointe Claire City Hall consists
of a futuristic airplane suspended on a cantilever beam over a reflecting pool. The
opposite end of the pool has a granite block with an appropiate plaque.
(Your copilot, who used to live in the area, remembers this memorial, and wonders
if it is still there! - eds )


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.Terry's travel tips.
Bill Hoekman sends us this information -
I would like to make a correction to your netletter # 470, where it states
regarding room rates at the REMADA INN  in Clearwater  are $57 for active
employees. I have been corresponding with the hotel in question and this
rate also includes RETIRED employees.
This is for a standard room. These rates are for space available only.
Bill.Hoekman.  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


Visiting Lisbon?
Lisbon's International Airport is close to the city centre and should cost about
$10 - $15 for a cab and take about 20 to 40 minutes. The public bus is a cheaper
alternative and is FREE to passengers who arrive in Lisbon by TAP - Air Portugal.
Just show your tickets to the driver.


Switzerland -
Lucerne Break-A-Way Vacation from us$599
Departures Any Day Thru Oct 31, 2000
INCLUDES: Round-trip space available interline air transportation,
6 days/4 nights hotel accommodations with private bath,
continental breakfast daily, hotel taxes and service charges.
Switzerland Fly/Drive Vacation from $699
Departures Any Day Thru Oct 31, 2000
INCLUDES: Round-trip interline air transportation,
5 nights hotel accommodations with private bath,
breakfast daily and rental car with unlimited mileage (Category A).
*NOTE: Prices quoted are per person, double occupancy and based
on using the least expensive  air transportation.
Persons traveling single require a single supplement.
Extra night rates available. Season supplements may apply.
Prices do NOT include U.S. departure taxes.
Parents of airline employees may be subject to supplements.
For More Information About These  vacations
Call 1-800-935-9444. Fax 314-968-9568.


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