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Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter Since 1995

Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter

Since 1995



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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)


Number 502 July 13th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995



Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
In NetLetter nr 499 we gave what could be confusing emails for three readers,
these should be -
Richard Simons.      This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Michelle Daines       This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Murray Phipps        This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


and   Bernie McCormack  captain B747-400 living in Coquitlam, BC advises us that
he is retired - email for Bernie is Gram&This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Michelle Daines sends us a short bio -
I worked at In Flight as a flight attendant for 19 years from 76-96 and loved it. I studied
Marine Biology at McGill (B.Sc. 1979) and did real estate and politics
( City Councillor for Montreal 1994-98 and Deputy Mayor from May to Nov 95 ) and
I miss flying very much.
Want to get in touch with other retirees and exchange travel and other tips.
Any retired ticket agents in YUL who remember Michelle may wish to send an email
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. John McManus sends this bio -
I retired from Air Canada in 1983 as Passenger  Service Supervisor YVRA.
after 30 years 3 months. My family are also with Air Canada -
My son;  John jr. Aircraft Services Training Instructor,   31 years service,
My daughter;  Peggy Iverson. Customer Service Manager YVRA,   30 years,
Her husband,  Ken Iverson, Station Attendant,YVRA, 29 years,
Their son, ( my grandson),  Paul Iverson, Aircraft Cleaner YVRA, 5years,
My grand nephew,  Felix Hunter, Flight Attendant, 2 years.
I moved over to Victoria last may, as I have four neices and nephews,
two grandaughters, and two great-grandsons over here. So it could be busy,
but not too   much.
John McManus. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. News from the districts.
NEW  NEW NEW  info from our Chief pilot -
The MONTHLY GATHERING for Chit and Chat in Victoria is still in the organizational
stages and will probably be arranged for a day in September and will be at 2pm
for the first meeting tentatively set for the restaurant near the airport.
for e-mail information please contact myself.  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


YVR Pionairs Summer and Fall Program 2000 -
YVR PIONAIRS "DATE WITH THE STEAK" BBQ
Thursday August 10th at Woodwards Landing Richmond BC. At # 5 Road and
Steveston Hwy. take number 5 Rd south to the river, a fast right and you are there.
Loads of parking, covered dining area and lots of open space.
Master Chefs Glen Steeves and Marv Lohnes and committee have a super menu planned.
So come on down and enjoy. Its a go rain or shine.
Time            1500
What to bring:  Your own refreshments, sun screen, and lawn chairs.
Cost            $10.00 p/p children under 12  $5.00 p/p.
Advance payment required please.
Mail cheques to Don Hancock in trust # 11 - 5531 Cornwall Dr. Richmond BC V7C 5N7.
Cheques/bookings by August 1st please.
More info call Glen Steeves 943-0494 or Don Hancock 231-0359.


YVR Pionairs Coffee Clubs have been a super success with 42 Pionairs attending the
June meeting. Coffee Clubs will resume in September and repeat on the same days
through to and including November. (December to be decided later).
White Rock 1st Tuesday,
Tsawassen 2nd Tuesday,
Richmond 3rd Tuesday and
Ladner 4th Tuesday each month.


Upcoming YVR Pionair events: (everyones invited).
1.Okanagan Wine Tour departs for Oliver on Friday September 29th via your own
car , lunch enroute, with overnites at Southwind Inn, (Seniors Rate about $60.00 per
nite), After checkin visit wineries in the immediate area, no host bar at hotel, (or drinks
around the pool), and dinner out. Saturday visit wineries between Oliver and Naramata,
- Sat evening special Wine festival Dinner, (optional), and Sunday brunch followed by a
leisurely drive home.
For more info call Don Hancock 231-0359 but please book early as this event sells
out quickly.
2. Maritimes Fall Color Tour starts and ends in Halifax, commences October 12th,
visiting Peggys Cove, Cape Breton, Graham Bells Museum Baddeck, Cabot Trail,
Cape Breton National Park, Prince Edward Island, Charlottetown City Tour,
Ann of Green Gables, PEI National Park, Lobster Dinner, Confederation Bridge,
Bay of Fundy, Halifax City Tour and Farewell Dinner. 7 Nights four star hotels,
7 breakfasts, 1 lunch, and 3 dinners, deluxe coach and local guide per itinerary,
and all services and entrance fees mentioned in the itinerary.
Must book by July 15/2000.
For more info and flyer please call Don Hancock 231-0359.
Cost  Ca$1229.00 (p/p shared double).
3. YVR Pionairs Fall Luncheon, (its a Sunday), October 22nd.Quilchena Golf Club.
4. YVR Pionairs Red Hat Xmas Luncheon Thursday Dec 7th. Quilchena Golf Club.
Regards Don Hancock District Director   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


Eric van der Holt, Secy/Treas. advises us that Comox Valley Pionairs  meet for
luncheon every last Thursday of the month,    except July.
All visitors are welcome to join us at the luncheons when in town.
Please call Murray Phipps, Co-ordinator, at 250 334-0807 for details of the next luncheon.


Irv Christjanson sends this -
Just a note to acknowledge the Burloak Koffee Klatch in NetLetter 501.
A few corrections please.....we start at 10:30am, not 11:00am  and the meeting
takes place at "Tuckers MarketPlace", in Burlington.
Irv Christjanson     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


. From the Okanagan, Bernie Danis sends this -
A short bit of news from our chapter,,
47 members and friends attended our June 6th Beach/BBQ party held at the
Summerland Sunoka park. The weather cooperated and after lunch door prizes were
drawn and all participated in  beach games.  The winners were:
Edith Bauer, Fred Harpell, Judy Rinke, Henrietta Switzeny from Kelowna,
Joe Cormier from Lakeside,  Pearl and Bernie Danis from Westbank.
Re On Going Events in NetLetter nr 501 -
The address for Penticton`s Tim Horton is 2140 Main Street across from Cherry Lane
Shopping Centre.       Regards   Bernie


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. Latest news on CF-TCC -
From Captain Tom Thususka
Retired ...
Presently down in Long River PEI for the summer...
Have caught up with TCC and pilots Al Macleod and Gerry Norberg along with
Mechanic Mike Clarkson in YSU at the COPA convention 2000 just finished
yesterday ( Sunday )
Had benefit of chat with them and shot some pics of TCC on ramp and the 2 aviators
just before flight departure to YYG where tomorrow July 11 they restart their east
coast DREAMS flying...
Al tells me the Premier of PEI and the retired VP of Flight Ops Captain Charlie Simpson
will both be among the passengers Tuesday for the first of the dreams flights.
I plan to go to YYG and take some pics....will send them along when I get them onto
my PC..
Am presently in my Long River PEI summer home and using a PC I brought down for
this kind of activity...
As for the weather today ( Monday ) it is showery but if we wait a while it'll get
sunny...hopefully tomorrow in YYG WX will be OK for the days activities...
ultimately later this week TCC, AL tells me will be off to YQM...
All pictures are taken on the ramp at YSU.
There is one of course of the 2 intrepid aviators, the one with AL in right seat and
George in the left..
Tom in Long River
(Check the web site acfamily.net/tcc/ to view the latest photos - eds)


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. From the RAPCAN eMailNews issued by Duane Frerichs -
Remember the Lancastrian lost in the Andes during the 40's?
Peter Duffy sends this -
I flew with BSAA, and on the Lancastrian, and on the route to Santiago.
I also crossed the Andes in the Tudor 4, and later in the Argonaut.
Many such crossings between Buenos Aires and Santiago lead me to agree with
the assumption that Star Dust's crew was unaware how far they had to go to
Santiago. Descent could never be started until very close, as the safety
height is so high. They found the wreckage on the eastern slopes of the
mountain, and this is indicative of the premature descent. But was this due
to an engine failure? We used max continuous power at about 29 to 30,000 ft
when crossing. Winds of 150 kts could be present in the winter. It was
always a matter of decision as to which way to turn if an engine lost power.
BTW my book 'Comets & Concordes" covers some the Star Dust story.
Regards,  Peter Duffy  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Found on the internet.
PRIORITY PET PROGRAM?
Northwest Airlines will be adding 18 positions for "Priority Pet" program staffers to cater
to the needs of VIPs (very important pets) and a toll-free number for pet owner assistance.
The positions will be added at three of the airline's hubs, which will also receive their very
own, brand new, air-conditioned vans to transport the animals and their new support
teams.  Depending on how much your pet means to you, Northwest now offers three ways
for them to travel:
As carry-on luggage for those pets and their kennels with a combined weight under
15 pounds,
as checked luggage,  and as VIP or airfreight cargo shipments.


CHEAP SEATS, CHEAP GRUB:
The Wall Street Journal reported last week that in 1999, America West created a meal
plan that matched the quality of food dispensed with the revenue earned by the route.
This basically translates to travelers flying higher-revenue business routes getting fancy
meals with salads and hot entrees while flights taking coachloads of vacationers to
WallyWorld get the leftovers -- so to speak.
Other carriers have followed suit.
Good luck figuring out which airline serves what on which route.


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. In defense of our airline, Tom Grant sends this -
Subject: Letter to the Editor
RE: Your article in the NetLetter 499: "People are getting tired! A tearful goodbye letter
to Robert Milton and Air Canada " a letter by Doug Steiner, the chief executive officer of
Versus Technologies, which operates the E*Trade on-line brokerage.
I wonder how Mr Steiner is doing on the other airlines since writing this letter?
Consider just a few recent articles (see below) on the American aviation scene and I think
he has jumped out of the pan and into the fire. One other thing, I been in the computer
business for about 15 years and found no other industry with poorer technical support
and customer service. Mr Steiner remember: "People in glass houses shouldn't . . ."


*** Airline complaints skyrocketing
WASHINGTON June 30 (AP) - Tired of airline delays? Lost luggage? Overbooked flights?
You're not the only one. Complaints about the American airline industry are
skyrocketing this year even as air carriers try to live up to their promise to improve
customer service, federal investigators say. . .
*** Aggravation over airline service
WASHINGTON, June 27 — Ask anyone who’s been doing a lot of airline travel recently
and you’re likely to hear travel is worse than ever. It’s not just passengers’ imagination.


and to close out this subject -
Walter Jacyk     <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: Can't please them all.
Greetings,
Ref to Mr. Doug Steiners' letter published in Net Letter 499.  Mr Doug Steiner, I'm convinced, is aware of the changes taking place within Air Canada, the magnitude of which is not only
historic, but a challenge to all.  Therefore, in this type of setting, there are bound to be a few additional glitches and slip ups.  Given a little time, patience, and understanding, Air Canada
will get past this difficult period and be more effective than ever, to its customers, share
holders, and employees.  Many years of exellent service are being discounted by this man, as he highlights some deficiencies during these trying times.  Also, the fact that the whole of "Canadian" staff, after years of uncertainties, are enjoying security, are of no consequence to him. When the highway is undergoing repair, we all have to slow down.  We may not like it, but we understand it.  Short term discomfort is acceptable under these circumstances.  The long winded letter speaks volumes about Mr. Doug Steiner, CEO of Versus Technologies, none of which are flattering.
Walter Jacyk, YYZ
('Nuff said! - eds)


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. Terry's travel tips


Period July 3 - 9th  Passenger load factor:          79%


Airport robberies are not unheard of in Brazil, and Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro airports
in particular have suffered from rather high crime rates in recent years.
Something to keep in mind when you plan your next vacation....


Our Chief pilot reminds you to check your reservation in view of this article -
VANCOUVER HOTEL STRIKE COULD DRAG ON
Hopes of a swift end to a strike at the seven largest hotels in B.C.'s
Lower Mainland may be dashed now that the union is telling its members
to reject the latest offer from the employers.


Dargal has these deals -
Check out these Hot Deals From Carnival, the most popular cruise line in the world.


Aug 23 and Sept 6 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival Jubilee ~ Alaska Southbound
Inside $190
Sept 4 ~ 5 Nights ~ Carnival Victory ~ Eastern Canada
New York, St. John/New Brunswick, Halifax/Nova Scotia, New York  Inside $320
Sept 27 ~ 12 Nights ~ Carnival Jubilee ~ Repositioning to Hawaii
Vancouver, to  Honolulu  Inside $610
Oct 1 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival Elation ~ Mexican Riviera
Los Angeles roundtrip Inside $460   Outside $560
Oct 21 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival Fascination ~ Southern Caribbean
San Juan,roundtrip   Inside $310   Outside $410
26 Nov ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival Paradise ~ Eastern Caribbean
Miami, roundtrip Inside $340   Outside $440
24 Dec ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival Paradise ~ Xmas Cruise in the Eastern Caribbean
Miami,  roundtrip
Inside $750   Outside $850
All rates are US$ per person, based on double occupancy
and subject to availability and eligibility. Applies to New Bookings Only.
Port Charges and Govt Taxes are additional.
Call Dargal at    1-800-690-3223      for itinerary and details.


Interlining plus have these deals -
CARIBBEAN
Aboard the Imagination 5 night, Western Caribbean
Inside from $280 us Ocean from $330 us July 15, 2000 Miami round trip
ALASKA
Aboard the Jubilee North Bound, Vancouver to Seward Inside from $290 us
July 19 & August 30, 2000
South Bound, Seward to Vancouver
Inside from $290 us Ocean from $580 us July 26, 2000
Inside from $290 us Ocean from $740 us August 23, 2000
Aboard the Statendam Hubbard Glacier Inside from $560 us Ocean  from $700 us
August 27, 2000
Aboard the Statendam Glacier Bay, South Bound Inside from $560 us Ocean from $700 us
August 06, 2000
Exotic JAPAN
Aboard the Regal Princess 19 night Inside  from $1439 us Ocean  from $2139 us
September 17, 2000  Sailing from Vancouver to Osaka
EUROPE
Aboard the Maasdam 7 night Inside  from $560 us Ocean  from $700 us
July 23, 30 / August 6, 2000   Sailing from Stockholm round trip
LAND TOUR
*Italian Dream  7 night from $849 cdn* Rome round trip - Now through October
...Plus
add a cruise to your holiday
7 nights aboard the Triton Inside from $449 us Ocean from $569 us
Sailing from Rome round trip  July 29, 2000
GREECE
9 night from $820 us Athens round trip - Now through September
...Plus
add a cruise to your holiday
7 nights aboard the Stella Solaris Inside  from $449 us Ocean  from $569 us
Sailing from Athens round trip  July 28 & August 11, 2000
Call Interlining plus for more details -   1-800-665-3100


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. Smilie.
From our "Eye of the beholder" file...
The student pilot was too high on his approach so he decided to use a slip to lose some
extra altitude.  But, being not very experienced, the maneuver lacked somewhat in
effectiveness.  The instructor, a bit surprised seeing such execution, asked his student,
"What was that?!"
The student, a bit embarrassed by the tone in the instructor's voice, responded,
"Well, it was a slip...."
The instructor, unconvinced, responded,
"No, that wasn't a slip, it was an intentional loss of control."


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