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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 513 Aug 20th, 2000, We first Published in October 1995
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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. Margaret Cantwell sends us these thoughts -
" With all the complaining and criticism of Air Canada due to the merger etc. and keeping
in mind there are very likely very legitimate complaints, I feel a little praise goes a long way.
This week I had occasion to register my son-in-law and grand-daughter with a Family Affair
pass to Edmonton. The help and information I received from the Call centre was excellent
and the agent was most helpful. Arriving at Victoria Airport (Air BC Regional) we were met
with politeness and no end of help and consideration. I think we all need to promote the
good side of our New Airline and hang in there until Mr. Milton gets everything in line as he
promises. Thank you. (Mrs.) Margaret A. Cantwell , Victoria B.C."
And from Bill Norberg we get this -
In view of the difficult times both Air Canada and Canadian have been through this past while
I thought I should pass on a few comments.
I have had the opportunity these past few months to travel on Canadian as well as Canadian Regional Airlines and also deal with Canadian Reservations. I would like to say how well I
have been treated in all of my contacts...I doubt whether it could have been any better.
My thanks to all the Canadian staff. They are going to be fine assets to our great airline.
Take care and be well. Bill Norberg
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. John Scott sends us his bio -
Joined AC Jan 31/55 as F/O in training in YUL. On completion of initial training went
to YWG as co-pilot on DC-3. Then co-pilot on North Star and Viscount. Promoted to
Viscount Capt Sept 27/65. DC-9 '70 moved to YVR as Viscount Capt March '72.
Big cut-back and Viscounts gone, not enough seniority to remain a Capt so became
DC-8 F/O June '73. To get back into left seat moved to YUL in July '74 and in Sept
went to Seattle on AC's first Boeing 727 Captains course at the Boeing factory!!
June'79 moved to YYZ. Jan '82 after 7 years on the 727 - a wonderful pilots a/c,
I moved on to the L-l011, my all time favorite. Flew the Lockheed for 8 years and in
April '90 got checked out on the B-747 which I flew until my retirement in Feb'91.
Officially 36 years, 1 month 1 day with 22,870 hours and 51 minutes flying time.
Never "worked" a day in all that time and shared the cockpit (and the flying!!) with some
pretty good guys, and a couple of pretty good gals - see now we have a lot of them -
about time .All in all it was a blast and I thank all who made it so.
My best to you all.
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. Found on the internet.
HONG KONG-NEW YORK FLIGHT MAKES DETOUR TO ONTARIO:
United Airlines' problems aren't restricted just to weather and labor issues.
A United 747 carrying 320 passengers from Hong Kong to New York had to land in
North Bay, Ontario, after the pilot reported he was having hydraulic problems.
After a safe landing and while taxiing off the runway, the plane went totally dead --
no battery power, no APU, no nothing. Another United plane sent from Chicago to
rescue the stranded paxs also had mechanical troubles and had to turn back.
Finally a third United plane made it to North Bay on Sunday morning to carry the
weary travelers to New York.
WHAT A COUNTRY!
That's probably what Italian Vincezzo Maglione thought when he stepped off Alitalia
Flight 610 at John F. Kennedy International Airport, N.Y., recently and was showered
with attention and gifts. Alas, we don't treat all our guests this well.
It turns out Maglione was being honored as the one-billionth airline passenger to file
through the terminals at JFK.
JFK now joins three other airports in the one-billion-paxs club: Atlanta Hartsfield,
Chicago O'Hare and London Heathrow.
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. For the Avro Arrow enthusiasts -
See the exhibit that pays tribute to Canada's most famous jet - on until Sept 10th.
Where? At the West Parry Sound District Museum.
Pilots can take in the fly-in August 27th at the Georgian Bay Airport to see special
events at the museum. Shuttle service from the airport and a BBQ later.
Call 1-888-624-9005 for more details.
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. Our chief pilot - Vesta found this -
*** The Mental State of Pilots - Are You in Safe Hands?
Since the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990, there has been increasing
debate about whether and how pilots should undergo psychological
tests. Although the actions of Flight 990 copilot Gamil El Batouty
may never be clearly understood and EgyptAir disputes assertions he
crashed the plane on purpose last year, killing all 217 people aboard
the allegations raise fears about whether pilots may be suffering
anything from depression to anxiety, or even a death wish. But are the
fears founded? There are, in fact, very few instances in which a pilot
or crew member's deliberate actions are known to have brought down an
airplane.
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. From the RAPCAN eNewsMail issed by Duane Frerichs -
Fellowship, refreshments and nourishment was provided at the Dickens Pub
Milton, ON in Thursday, Aug. 17th. Attending were Gary Anderson, Bruce
Beresford, Norm Bigg, Paul Borosok, Jack Buykes, Bob Connell, Don Corker,
Mike Crosby, Neil Dowsley, Ross Egles, Burke Fisher, Don Fisher, Duane
Frerichs, John Galagher, Joe Gulyes, Jack Haycock, Moe Labine, Ray Labine,
Harold Langlois, Bob Last, Bob Muldoon, Don Patry, Gerry Spracklin, Stu
Thomson, Harold Twitchell, Mike Vasil, Don Wiley, Lin Wolfe, & Bob Yorke.
REMINDER: Orangeville Happy Hour: Retired Pilots get together at the
"Flight Deck Pub", located one block south of Broadway, in the center of
Orangeville, ON. Thursday Aug. 24th. at 1630 hrs
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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -
Air Transat have purchased two L-1011-500s from SriLankan, the first (MSN1235)
has already been delivered and the second (MSN1236) is due in Sept/00.
(These were NOT originally owned by AC - eds)
British Airways grounded their Concorde operations on August 15th after advice
from the UK Civil Aviation Authority and the Air Accidents Investigation Bureau.
The British and French governments have since suspended the Certificate of
Airworthiness for the Concorde pending modifications and further testing.
Both Air France and British Airways have said that they would like to be able to
resume Concorde operations, but costs of modifications will have to be determined first.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Visiting Kelowna?
One of the Pionairs runs a B & B, why not try it -
email Ken Starnes
Food for thought for the 'con' visiting Chicago with no place to sleep!
*** Stranded travelers turn to cots at O'Hare
It's certainly not the intended destination, but more and more people are spending the
night at Chicago's O'Hare Airport. Chicago's Aviation Department says nearly
13-thousand stranded travelers have taken advantage of the airport's offer of free cots
this year. That's an increase of three-thousand over the same time last year.
O'Hare's aviation commissioner blames bad weather as the primary cause for the
increase in stranded people. The airport is planning to add more cots to prepare for
the possibility of more sleepers.
From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -
If you are travelling through Vancouver airport after September 11th watch out
for major construction going on in the older "domestic" portion of the terminal.
It will be done in phases through to June 2001 and will revamp the domestic check-in
areas currently being used by Canadian Airlines and Air Canada.
By the time all the work is completed it will mirror the International Terminal building
with new skylights, exterior glass wall and overhang canopy, CUTE-style check-in
counters (CUTE=Common Use Terminal Equipment), baggage conveyors,
improved flight information display systems, and improved finishes and floorings.
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. Smilies.
This was sent to us by Bernie McCormack -
1. Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory.
2. If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull
the stick back, they get smaller. That is, unless you keep pulling
the stick all the way back, then they get bigger again.
3. Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous.
4. It's always better to be down here wishing you were up
there than up there wishing you were down here.
5. The ONLY time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
6. The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane
used to keep the pilot cool. When it stops, you can actually watch the
pilot start sweating.
7. When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No one has ever collided with the sky.
8. A 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away.
A 'great'landing is one after which they can use the plane again.
9. Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to
make all of them yourself.
10. You know you've landed with the wheels up if it takes full power to taxi to the ramp.
11. The probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival.
Large angle of arrival, small probability of survival and vice versa.
12. Never let an aircraft take you somewhere your brain didn't get to five minutes earlier.
13. Stay out of clouds. The silver lining everyone keeps talking about
might be another airplane going in the opposite direction. Reliable
sources also report that mountains have been known to hide out in clouds.
14. Always try to keep the number of landings you make equal the number
of take offs you've made.
15. There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing.
Unfortunately, no one knows what they are.
16. You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience.The trick is to
fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
17. Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them.
18. If all you can see out of the window is ground that's going round
and round, and all you can hear is commotion coming from the passenger
compartment, things are not at all as they should be.
19. In the ongoing battle between objects made of aluminum going hundreds of miles
per hour and the ground going zero miles per hour, the ground has yet to lose.
20. Good judgment comes from experience.Unfortunately, the experience usually
comes from bad judgment.
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