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Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter Since 1995

Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter

Since 1995



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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)


Number 517 Sept 6th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995



Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
Karen and Trevor W. Tripp living in Creston B.C. email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
Flora Abesamis Principal, Business Process Redesign
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Donald W. Palmer retired captain living in Brentwood Bay B.C.
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Email  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. will find Gus Cirko Captain
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. Need to know.


Bert Young sent us this query -
Recently the Central Ontario Newsletter mentioned in its AGM comments that the
30 Year POS Anniversary Pass being NOT good if one retired before 1987 !  WHY ??
- But - Is the    25 Year one OK ?? <mailto:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>bert.young@home.<mailto:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>com


Industry travel advises -
Yes, the 25-year service award was available to those who attained
that length of service.


It appears that, when the 30-year service award ticket was
introduced in 1987 to all active employees, it was not made
retroactive to those who already retired.  That is the reason why
there are a number of employees who retired prior to 1987 with, say
32 years of service, would only be entitled to the 25-year service
pass but not the 30-year.


Those who received the 30-year service award after 1987 took that
entitlement into retirement.


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. The following NetLetter member has deceased recently.
ROBERT (BOB) Smith* Ile Bizard   QC
Our condolences go out to the family.
.   It is with great sorrow to inform you of the passing Aug. 31st. of follow co-worker,
friend, and Pionair,Robert (Bob) Smith. Bob was very active in the community arraigning
Old Timers Hockey West Island Mtl. and Captain of his golf course in Hawksbury.
He was the winner of the 99 Pionairs Golf tournament in N.S. and was planning to
attend this years in B.C. when he found out he had terminal cancer and could not defend
his tittle. He leaves to mourn his wife Dawn , son Alex and his wife as well as two grand
children. A memorial is being planned later.
Regards John Rodger   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Found on the internet.
TOWER, COULD YOU TURN UP THE LIGHTS?"
Thieves shut down the Shantou airport in southern China recently when they made
off with 69 landing lights from one of the runways.  As reported by the Guangzhou Daily,
it took workers 12 hours to replace and repair the lights, forcing the airport to close.
Lights must be pretty valuable on the black market -- it cost over $50,000 to replace
them.


British Airways long expected to emerge as a serious suitor for Air India has asked for
details of the Indian flag carrier's privatization in the first indication of its intentions.


Boeing's frequent flier-buyers -
Who are Boeing's best domestic-airline customers?
Let the criteria be the number of owned - not leased.
1. Southwest Airlines, with 112 deliveries, all 737s.
2. American Airlines, with 96 deliveries.
3. Delta Air Lines, with 94 deliveries.
4. United Airlines, with 80 deliveries.
5. Continental Airlines, with 59 deliveries.


PARACHUTIST ONLY HAS EIGHT LIVES LEFT NOW:
That's because skydiver Andy Judy used one of them up on Saturday when he
attempted a jump from a Cessna 182 at the Pittsburgh Skydiving Center in Dunbar,
Pa.  Judy's boot got caught on the underside of the 182 when he jumped out, leaving
him dangling in the air at altitudes up to 10,000 feet for half an hour.
After realizing that Judy couldn't free himself, the pilot landed the 182 on the grass at
Connellsville Airport in Dunbar. Luckily Judy suffered only minor cuts and bruises.
Since Judy didn't use his parachute to land, we don't think he can log this as a jump.


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. Tom Martin sends us a couple more stories from his memory bank -
Aero Peru  - after the DC8s were returned to JM, they acquired a couple of L1011's that had
been intended for a southern Cal. airline and I can't remember the name, but they had the
lounge in the belly therefore had extra heavy duty metal required by the FAA.
(Fin 801 and 810 were probably the DC8's, both since broken up. 810 at Tennessee 1983
and 801 at Lima Peru Jan 1986 - eds).


As for Air Lanka, they were able to cannibalize the bombed -500 for spares which meant
they had surplus spares for sale.  You may remember Vic Henderson, I brought him back
from retirement to do the provisioning and buying.  When we had the Air Lanka people in YUL,
I made a blunder and treated them to smoked meat, forgetting they didn't eat beef.
Take care - Tom         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Reprinting some of the stories by Charles Mackie has nudged his memory, here is
one he recently sent us -
Subject: Another adventure.
Well seeing how things are quiet around here for a change I thought I would pass along
another story on the CGTAS days.
It was one of the first Flights using the North Stars on the Atlantic, and we were
flying from Prestwick to London when the aircraft went Mechanical, so had to lay over
for about 8 hours for them to fix the problem.
BOAC kindly offered us  driver and a van to take the crew  wherever they
wanted to go to kill some time.
The crew consisted of Capt Del Wooward, a First Officer, Navigator , myself and a
Purser as well as 2 stewardesses. I don't remember the names of the rest of the crew
but maybe after reading this incident they would let me know  their recollections.
Someone suggested that we go to Staines up near the headwaters of Thames
river where you could rent a boat to travel the upper reaches of the Thames, and the
girls wanted to be dropped off near Windsor Castle to go shopping.
When got to Staines the boat rental people only had small boats that could carry
three only, so we rented two boats, with Del and I and the navigator in one and the other
two, the First Officer and Purser, the other.
The boats did not move very fast because they had the intake to the carburetors
plugged with wood, so after a few minutes Del saw some paddles in our boat and so
got out the paddles to make to boat go faster, and of course the other two did the same
thing. It soon developed into a race, and it soon became a war with all of us involved
in splashing the others with water from the paddles.
We kept it out for some time so I was steering our boat to I pushed there boat
toward the shore line to beach them for a better target.  However none of us were
watching where we were going and we ran into a solid rock pier.  Well the other two
stalled their boat and where frantically trying to get it started when a little old lady came
running down waving her arms and crying out that we had damaged her pier and she
was going to call the River Police. It was rather comical to see the other two
apologizing to the old lady, but she insisted she was going to call the River Police. So
we got our of there in a hurry, and proceeded down stream.  We soon came to two
islands and in between the islands there was a punt load of British school girls all in
uniform. We yelled and shouted at them but didn't get any response whatsoever, not
even a smile.
We continued on until a half hour was up and there was a slight widening of the
river and there seemed to be parks on both sides.  Well the two in the other boat
decided they would go for a swim and stripped down to their shorts and took turns at
diving in, Finally they were both in the water at one time, so Del says to me grab the
rope on their boat and tow it away, so I did that and of course there were all sorts
of shouts from the two in the water. Anyway the commotions upset some of the people
in the park and they started to yell " Get the River Police". We decided we had better
clear out of there and started our return journey.
We again challenged these other guys to a race but we purposely held back
because we knew that these other guys would like to take closer look at the girls in the
punt. Sure enough they peeled off and went to pass the girls, but their boat ran aground
about 10 feet away from the girls, and they had to get out, still in their shorts, and push
their  boat off the mud. Well that finally got all the girls laughing.
We continued on and there was a houseboat tied up along the river bank so the
other two guys tied up to the house boat and were hanging out their uniforms to dry out.
The First officer had put his trousers over the windscreen of the boat and Del says
to me "Make a quick pass and we will grab the pants as we pass by", well Del got one
leg and the F/o saw what was happening and grabbed the other leg and as a result split
the pants in half.
We  returned the boats and the owners couldn't figure out why they were so water
logged etc but we paid him his money and took off.
We picked  up the our girls by  Windsor Castle and fortunately one of the girls
had a needle and thread and she sort of basted the trousers backed together again.
We just got back to airport in time as the aircraft had been repaired and we all
snuck on board, out the view of the passengers, as we were a pretty sorry looking
mess. The rest of the trip was routine back to Montreal.
If anyone can give me names of the First Officer, Navigator and Purser also of the
two stewardess I would appreciate it.
I wonder if the River Police are still looking for us.
So until next time everyone Keep Smiling and Healthy
Charles J. L. Mackie   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -
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Air Canada welcomed the findings of the UK's Competition Commission
investigation on the impact of Air Canada's recent acquisition of
Canadian Airlines Intl. on air transportation between the UK and
Canada.  The Commission found that on the major route between London and
Toronto there was effective competition with several charter operators
offering alternative services from Gatwick and Stansted airports.  The
Commission also noted that "there were few constraints on British
Airways expanding its services at Heathrow and that it was able to
provide effective competition as may other operators at Heathrow."   One
of the concerns raised in the UK was the control of all the slots held
by both Air Canada and CAI at Heathrow.


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. May Day -
From: Patrick C. Taylor
Subject: Ft. Lauderdale accommodation help!
I am looking for accommodation for four days in  Ft. Lauderdale early
next month (October.)  Any advice would be appreciated.
Patrick Taylor  ex YYZ ramp.      This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Terry's travel tips.
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. Smilies.
Words that might suggest caution in vacation-spot literature -
- In case of windy weather, we are located just steps from a freeway underpass.
- Free post-vacation counselling.
- Our lake is so safe even the fish don't bite.
- Free insurance coverage for damage to personal effects properly stored above
the flash-flood high-water mark.
- Now, cholera free.
- The practice of the Canadian taxpayer funding rescues from ice-floes is
under review.
- Bargain Atlantic crossings for open-air enthusiasts with strong arms and time
to spare.
- We think the war is over. Now with 50-per-cent lower bribes expected.
- No need to bring a raincoat or an umbrella; we've got lots.
- Our guests tell us they can't wait to get out of our beds in the morning.
- Our airport customs officials are the best money can buy.
- Cameras not allowed on premises.
- Features 24-hour happy hour.
- Scuba gear with full tanks is complimentary with all ground floor units.
- All units are air-conditioned (guests must provide their own mosquito nets.



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