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Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

number 255   date Apr 1st, 1998  1st Published in October 1995

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Please E-mail  all correspondence to both of us, as
Vesta lives in Victoria BC, and Terry lives in Ladysmith, BC.
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. We welcome Doug Davidson ex C & SS & Finance Department Winnipeg now
working in Kuwait. Email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Jim Smith presently Marketing & Sales Manager with Air Canada
email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

John Clark who retired in 1992 email is This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Wilson Quigley living in Guelph Ont email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
In NetLetter nr 251 we enquired for a friend on behalf of,
The name given contained some continental accents and may have been garbled,
the name was Jorg Stuve. Contact Jacques Gaucher <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>.

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. We have some bios for you -
Maynard Bartlett writes -
Glad to be aboard.... I have had several nice Emails since my name has
been added to your list. Thank-you great fun hearing from nice people I
used to work with. As promised a short bio for you...
Maynard Bartlett born in Harvey Station, New Brunswick. Started with
Trans-Canada Air Lines in April 1959 in Toronto. Records.. Went to
Los Angeles when we opened in 1967, transferred to Dallas/ Fort Worth
in 1977 APO Manager. Retired February 1986.
I then went with TranStar Airlines in 1986 and transferred back to Los
Angeles . TransStar was part of Southwest Airlines I stayed as their City
Manager for three years until they closed the station. I am now
living in the Dallas/ Fort Worth Area and would enjoy hearing from all my
buddies. ---------- Maynard Bartlett   <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

And one from Darryl Richmond -

I do appreciate getting copied and already have received a number of
messages from friends of the past, who upon learning of my retirement
through your Netletter, have contacted me by way of EMail.
I started to work for Air Canada in April 1961 and retired effective March
1, 1998.
During the first six months of my career I worked with Regional Operations
in Toronto, but shortly after joining Ed Zakala asked me to join
In-Flight Service.  I spent the next approximately 1 year with them and then
transferred to Maintenance (now Technical Operations), working for
Charlie White, Cy Clissold, etc in various activities associated with
manpower reporting, budget, and aircraft scheduling/maintenance related
functions.
Approximately 7-8 years later I transferred back to In-Flight Service at
the request of Kerry Collins and spent the next approximately 20 years
involved with scheduling matters (Planner, Planning Supervisor, Scheduling
Manager, Route Operations Manager, and Flight Attendant Manager) while all
the while enjoying many projects involving labour relations (contract
negotiations) and organizational reviews.
Approximately 1991, I left In-Flight service to join Human Resources as the
Manager of Personnel & Employee Relations, in Toronto, the position from
which I retired.
Once again thanks for including me on your mailing list and I do look
forward to keeping in touch with AC through your Netletter.
Regards.   From: "Darryl" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

And now from Bob Troup

Born in Aberdeen, Scotland. Started with Air Canada in 1951, in the
Winnipeg machine shop. Moved to Montreal in 1965. After an assignment in
Maintenance Planning, setting up the tooling for the new Powerplant shop,
I spent the rest of my active career looking after the maintenance of the
equipment in that area. Took early retirement at the end of 1977,
and have had a wonderful twenty years of travel with my wife of 56 years,
Dolly. Presently living near our two daughters, in Windsor, Ontario.
Hope to see a lot of old friends, and to meet many "surfers" at the A.G.M.
Bob Troup.  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Two responses to the story by Bill Norberg in NetLetter nr 254 -
Bob Carson writes -
Good comment from Bill Norberg.
When I joined the company in 1961 the 650 was on it's way out and being
replaced by the IBM 1401 with 16K of memory plus operated in character
mode. Did you ever wonder why the coding on many of the Sindaily items were
9 for YES and 8 for NO which was from the 650 as a Numeric machine. As a
computer "Tab Operator" working shift when the winter nights were very cold
we would arrive and lean against the 650 with all it's tubes and warm
ourselves before starting work. Bob Carson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

and from Tom Martin -

Bill Norberg's memories described in NL254 bring back a lot of memories for
me of getting started with computers back then.  P&S didn't have an Anne B.
to help us out.  Today this PC beast of mine knows very well its the boss,
but then we didn't understand that.  When P&S was getting ready for the 650,
I was assigned half time to help with the planning and when we thought all
was well and the system was a go, we had some rude awakenings.  We found
people thought they had to have a paper copy of every transaction and we
were flooded with paper, and they were confused.  We ended up creating a
"snag clearance" group which I headed and which had Internal Auditors, YWG
Finance people & P&S on it.  Once in a while Bill Sadler and or Henry Kiel
would show up to see how things were going and we ended up working the
afternoon shift so as not to interfer with the daily operations and so we
could try to fix what the day had created.  When we were finished after many
months, a small permenant group was set up and as I recall our NL co-pilot
Terry Baker was transferred from the UK to be a part of it.  I recognize at
least one NL subscriber who was on the C&SS side then - Irv Christiansen.
I'm not sure what the Company is doing about Y2K, but I believe they are
working hard to cope with it and hope they don't have to go through the
growing pains we did with that old IBM650.
Tom Martin <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
(Yes quite right Tom, I was transferred - needed a 'limey' to help sort it
all out.<g>)

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. NEWS FROM THE DISTRICTS.

From the Ottawa District Newsletter.
Don't forget the 'Welcome Spring!!' luncheon. Saturday Apr 18th at the
Ruby King Restaurant, 3014 St. Joseph Blvd, Orleans. Priced right at
CA$9.25 pp which includes tax and tip. There will be an open bar.
During this luncheon, elections for the Ottawa District executive will
be conducted.
Call Al Martel at 820-0042 for the time and reservation.
Visiting retirees most welcome.

The Christmas luncheon last Dec 3rd attracted 50 members and guests who
enjoyed a great time.

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. Terry found this in the book - 'Ocean Bridge'
The worlds first 'alliance' or code-sharing in the airline industry was
probably between Imperial Airways of Great Britian and Pan American of the
US.
In 1932 when the two companies found it convenient to cooperate on various
international routes. In Bermuda they combined their resourses on the
New York to Europe run.

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. Terrys Travel Tips.

Canadian Interline Travel Hot Cruise Deals!
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Mexican Baja (3 Night) with Royal Caribbean - April 10/98
- Royal Caribbean Cruise Line - Viking Serenade
- 3 Night Mexican Baja - Los Angeles, Ensenada, Los Angeles
- Inside from us$279, ppd  Outside from us$329, ppd
- Includes port charges. Gov't fees are additional.

Spring Trans-Atlantic - April 18/98 - Norwegian Cruise Lines - Norway
- 14 Day Cruise - Miami, St Maarten, Southern Atlantic, Funchal,
Madeira-Portugal,   Malaga/Spain, Marseilles/France
- from us$599 U/L, us$799 Inside, us$899-us999 pp Outside (DB)

Trans Canal Cruise - May 3/98 - Celebrity Cruises - Mercury (New Ship)
- 15 Night Trans-canal - Ft Lauderdale, Key West, Cozumel, Panama Canal,
Port Caldera, Acapulco, Cabo San Lucas, San Diego, Los Angeles
- Inside from us$999, ppd   Outside from us$1249, ppd
- Port chgs are included. Gov't fees are additional.

Call 1-800-665-3100 for details and mention Pionairs.

Dargal Interline Cruises & Tours -
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Dawn Princess - May 2/98 - 11 nights
- San Juan, St. Thomas, Martinique, Grenada, Caracas, at sea, transit canal,
at sea, Acapulco.
- Cost from us$773 pp dbl.

Sky Princess - May 4/98 - 9 nights
- Oahu, Kauai, Big Island, at sea, Vancouver
- Cost from us$490 pp dbl.

Dawn Princess - May 13/98 - 7 nights
- Acapulco, Zihauatanejo, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Cabo San Lucas,
Los Angeles.
- Cost from us$541 pp dbl.

Norwegian Crown - Apr 25/98 - 7 nights
- Montreal - Quebec City, Gulf of St. Lawrence, Sydney Nova Scotia,
Boston, Newport, Rhode Island, New York.
- Cost from us$449 pp dbl.

Resort Get-a-ways.
- Tenerife, Canary Islands. 7 nights from ca$742 pp dbl.
- Tunisia, Africa           7 nights from ca$612 pp dbl.
These rates include: roundtrip airfare from Gatwick UK,
transfers, full or half board & taxes.
Friends welcome!

Still a few spots left on the trip escorted by Gerry Philbrook
14 night cruise Miami to Marseille, France departs Apr 18/98. 

Call 1-800-690-3223 for details and mention Pionairs.


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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.


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