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Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/
Co-pilot - Terry Baker
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/
Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net
number 387 date July 17, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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DID YOU KNOW? you can read or retrieve back issues of the
BYN? Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between and click on the "Archives"
button. This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES -
NetLetter" subscribers and you will need a password to
enter. The type in is:
User Name: byn
Password: vesta
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WELCOME ABOARD
lives in Burlington ON, Retired Captain and a Pionair now
too.
who lives in Victoria BC (see below)
MEMBERS BIOGRAPHIES
Margaret Cantwell is the widow of employee Kenneth C.
Cantwell. who passed away in 1982 after just over 28 years
service with TCA/Air Canada. She now lives in Victoria, B.C.
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AIRLINE BOOK REVIEWS
From: "Ross Smyth" <
airline retiree input for my second book as per the
following written in the third tense.
Pionair Ross Smyth of Montreal, author of “The Lindbergh of
Canada: The Erroll Boyd Story” in 1997 has nearly completed
a second book of his own aviation memoirs including his 1940-
1977 period with TCA/Air Canada as cargo clerk, radio
operator, transatlantic flight dispatcher (union president),
and public relations manager with links to presidents Gordon
McGregor and Yves Pratte, each having a chapter. One chapter
deals with the reorganization of the early 70s and its
adverse effect on employee morale.
Ross gave about a thousand public speeches himself and
involved 300 speakers giving 1000 talks annually in the
1960s, and organized speech workshops and communications
seminars throughout the system... He initiated the media
opinion roundup, became a Horizons columnist and
Infomanagement editor. He briefly headed up the archives
before recommending the late Beth Buchanan do it full time.
Smyth would like to add some retiree input, especially BRIEF
anecdotal material related to the foregoing. Did any readers
know him in the 1940s during the interesting adventures in
the early transatlantic region. Ross may be reached at
<
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PERSONAL EXPERIENCES:
From: "gisela Laubitz" <
I like to share a traumatic experience I recently had in
Austria with our readers.
I do not imagine that many of the Pioneers travel by car in
the EC where the borders have been eliminated. But
forewarned is forearmed.
Traveling on May 12 South on German Highway # E43 on my way
to Switzerland, Italy and France, in heavy traffic on a
rainy, dark day I entered Austria without realizing that I
had left Germany.
About two km from the alleged border line I was ordered off
the highway to a deserted warehouse where several cars with
various license plates were surrounded by half a dozen men
in uniforms directed by a plain clothes man. The
"detainees", men, women and children, were ordered in rapid
German to do various tasks. I could tell that many could not
understand what was happening.
I was ordered to hand over my passport, car papers and
driver's license. After comparing my car papers with my
license plate and serial number they were taken to an
unmarked van with communication equipment in it. When I
asked what was happening I was informed that I would find
out in due course.
After returning my papers one of the men asked me to open
the trunk and glove compartment, and after rummaging through
them wanted to know where I was coming from, where I was
going, for what reason and how much money I had on me.
Finally I was told that I was free to leave after paying AUS
1,000.00 (approx. CAD 130.00) for not having a valid sticker
for traveling on Austrian motorways. I had no Austrian money
so USD 90.00 was accepted and the fine increased to AUS
1,100.00.
By then I had enough and took out a camera to document the
scene. It was knocked out of my hand and I was threatened
with confiscation of the equipment. When I objected I was
advised that if I did not like Austrian laws and procedures
I should go back where I came from and not bother to come
back. Also a lecture was delivered on North Americans
meddling in European affairs.
I returned to Canada on June 16 and immediately sent a
letter to the Austrian Tourist Office and its Diplomatic
Mission in Toronto. I described the experience and stated
that only in a Police State would one agency have all those
powers displayed by the men that stopped, interrogated and
intimidated me. To add insult to injury I received a
response from a tourist agency in Austria telling me that
the police action was fully justified, but that tourists are
welcome. Another response from the Austrian Embassy in
Ottawa casts doubts on the authenticity of my claims, full
of innuendoes and wandering why it took me over a month to
complain.
In conclusion, if you need to travel in Austria carry plenty
of Austrian money and an English-German dictionary.
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KEEPING TRACK OF TCC
As to why CF-TCC had fin number 25, why did the fin numbers
start at 20 with the Stearman, then the 10As were 21 through
25? That is the poser. Tom Martin
frm RAPCAN
From: "William L Marr" <
Subject: Lockheed 10A's and etc.
Duane - I have been following the chatter on CF-TTC / TCC.
with some interest. I flew left seat for 40 hrs. on 10A's
and a 12. My log book shows my check out and first pilot
flights on Sept 18th 1941 and my last flight on August 24th
1942 just prior to going overseas from Central Flying
School, Trenton. Jack Logan was there at that time and may
have flown a number of other 10A's.
If anyone is interested in all of this I would refer them to
Captain J.L.(Lindy) Rood's article "Introducing the Electra"
featured in the Canadian Aviation Historical Society
Journal, Volume 24, Number 1, Spring 1986, of which I have a
copy . It is the best history that I have read of these
aircraft. All Lindy says about the tail number 25 is
"......TCA Maple Leaf Logo was hand-painted on both sides of
the nose and the Lockheed logo, surmounted once again by
fleet number 25, was applied on both sides of both fins."
I'll ask why 25 next time I see him. Regards,Bill Marr
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NEWS FROM THE PIONAIRS:
Subject: T2CK
Just a belated update on our T2CK (T2 Coffee Klatch) from
July 6th. We had a record turnout at the Golden Griddle. The
"main attraction" was Paula Vink who used to be our AC
Manager in Havana, Cuba. She was in Toronto visiting me at
the time. I sent word out to some of the "charter team"
agents who used to look after our flights to Cuba and they
were so glad to meet her and also to renew acquaintances.
The lucky winner of the $20 food voucher for Golden Griddle
was Mary Moore! (Olie and Mary joined us, too). Next month,
August 3rd, I'll be away on the Rotterdam VI, so Shirley
Goveia will be the hostess. September will be our First
Anniversary! See you there!Sheila
Vancouver Island Pionairs -
Courtenay and Comox monthly luncheon will be held
at the Kingfisher on Thursday July 29th at 11:30 for 12:00.
The August monthly meeting has been cancelled due to the
fact that the Vancouver Island Pionairs Up-Island luncheon
is being held on Wednesday August 25th in Nanaimo.
The Annual Picnic will be held at Mount Douglas Park on
Wednesday July 21st at 11:00. Why not join them for a fun
filled afternoon. Bring lunch and a drink. Cost is $2.00
each.
The Annual Up Island luncheon will be held on Wednesday
August 25th in the Four Points Sheraton, Rutherford Road in
Nanaimo. Meet at 11:30 for lunch at 12:30. Cheques or cash
to be forwarded to John Jeffrey 1-10471 Resthaven Drive,
Sidney, BC, V8L 3H6. by Aug 13th.
The Fall luncheon is planned for Wednesday Oct 6th at
McMorrans in Victoria. Price $17:00. Cheques to John Jeffrey
by Sept 27th.
The Christmas Luncheon is planned for Tuesday December 7th
at Dunsmuir Lodge in Victoria. Start 11:30 for lunch 12:30.
Cost to be advised.
Visiting TCA/Air Canada retirees are most welcome to any of
these events.
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ACCOLADES
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:50:39 EDT
Subject: Re: NetLetter nr 372 - Between Yourselves
Since I retired from AC, in 1995, I moved to the USA and I
am very busy working in the Phoenix area. I thought that I
should let everyone know, just how much, I love to receive
the newsletter, "Between Yourselves". I get a lot of
enjoyment from all your efforts and I would like to say
THANKS. I have some colleagues who were former Western
Airline executives and they really enjoy the certain issues
that I forward to them. Again, Thanks Brian O'Hare, former
Stn Attendant YYZ
COMPUTERS NEWS
Airlines Say They're Ready for Y2K (two of two parts.)
follow up from 385 NetLetter.
The announcement of airline readiness was made by the
Aviation Millennium Project, a group organized in March 1998
by 102 U.S. and Canadian airlines to ensure airline, airport
and air traffic control readiness. The group estimates that
the airlines will spent more than $750 million solving the
problem; worldwide the figure is expected to be $2.3
billion. The U.S. and Canadian systems that have been
repaired and tested to date are wide-ranging, from
computerized reservations to crew scheduling and aircraft
operating systems. John Koskinen, chairman of the
President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion, said at a news
conference Thursday he was pleased by the progress made by
U.S. and Canadian airlines. As for major U.S. airports,
Koskinen said they have ``addressed everything from baggage
handling to runway lights to gate assignments. The focus is
increasing on the smaller airports, who are addressing it.
Fortunately, they have more simplified and straightforward
systems that take less time to remediate.''
He also sought to play down concerns about the safety of
flying overseas. ``As a general matter, the issue in flying
internationally is not safety, it really is a question of
congestion and timing,'' he said. ``If airports have to
revert away from computerized air traffic systems, what it
will mean is that there will be increased spacing between
flights (and) some will have to be canceled.''
The Year 2000, or Y2K, problem is glitch that may cause
computers to malfunction on Jan. 1. Some computer software
was written to recognize years in a two-digit format, such
as ``99'' for 1999. There is uncertainty about what will
happen when the year changes to 2000, since some computers
may misconstrue the ``00'' for 1900 instead of 2000.
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TERRYS TRAVEL TIPS
Mexicana de Aviacion, usually known as Mexicana, is to join
the Star Alliance in 2000, according to Lufthansa. Mexicana,
which serves destinations in Central, North and South
America, will be the tenth airline to join the alliance to
date. The carrier is to start soon on a plan to train its
employees on how to handle passengers from other airlines in
the alliance.
Canadian interline Travel has these opportunities -
European Cruise Specials: Royal Caribbean
Ship: Legend of the Seas - 12 Night Mediterranean Cruise
Departure Dates: Sep 4, 16, 28, & Oct 10/99
Itinerary: Barcelona, Marseilles-France, Livorno
(Florence/Pisa) Italy, Naples, Venice, Messina-Sicily,
Civitavecchia (Rome)Italy, Villefranche (Monte
Carlo/Cannes)France, Barcelona
Price: Inside Stateroom from $814USD pp dbl
Outside Stateroom from $1114USD pp dbl
Port Charges of $185USD per person are additional.
Ship: Splendour of the Seas - 14 Night Trans Atlantic Cruise
Departure Date: September 2, 1999
Itinerary: Harwich-England, Bergen-Norway, Lerwick, Shetland
Islands-Scotland, Torshavn-Faroe Islands, Akureyri-Iceland,
Reykjavik-Iceland, St John's-NF, Bar Harbor Maine, Boston
Massachusetts
Price: Outside Stateroom from $1179USD pp dbl
Closer to home, Alaska Last Minute Specials: Royal Caribbean
Ship: Vision of the Seas - 7 Night Alaska Inside Passage
Cruise
Departure Date: July 25/99
Ship: Rhapsody of the Seas - 7 Night Alaska Inside Passage
Cruise
Departure Dates: Jul 24 & 31/99
Prices: Inside Stateroom from $654USD pp dbl
Outside Stateroom from $754-854USD pp dbl
Port Charges of $145USD per person are additional.
One More! Regal Empress - 12 Night Canadian Fjords
Departure Date: August 8/99
Itinerary: New York, Halifax-NS, St John's - NF, Bonavista
Bay-NF, St Anthony-NF, Bonne Bay Fjords, Cape Breton Island-
NS, New York
Prices: Inside Stateroom from $859USD pp dbl
Outside Stateroom from $1069USD pp dbl
Port Charges of $191USD per person are additional.
Take advantage of this special offer today.
Royal Princess - 10 Night Canada / New England Cruise
Departure Date: October 25/99
Itinerary: Montreal, Quebec City, Saguenay River, Halifax-
NS, Saint John-NB, Bar Harbor-Maine, Boston, Newport, Rhode
Island, New York
Prices: Outside Stateroom from $724USD pp dbl
Port Charges of $75USD per person are additional.
Call Canadian interline Travel to take advantage
of these special rates at 1-800-665-3100!!!
SMILIE frm rapcan
From our "Situational Awareness" file...
A wife reports that her husband, an airline pilot, often has
difficulty locating items around the house. One day he asked
where the salt was. Annoyed, the wife responded, "How on
earth can you find Detroit at night in a blizzard, but you
can't find the salt in your own kitchen?" "Well, darling,"
he replied, "they don't move Detroit."
. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.
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Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/
Co-pilot - Terry Baker
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/
Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net
number 386 July 13th , 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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Re our policy on Obituaries received:
Terry and I are sorry but we have had to establish a policy
of not printing obituaries in
"Between Yourselves - NetLetter"
unless the deceased was a member of our mailing list
then will print a short obituary in the NetLetter.
Otherwise please advise your local "Pionairs" District
Director and the Horizons employee publication,
if applicable.
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CHANGES IN E-MAIL ADDRESSES:
Andrew Wallace
Alastair Thomson who says to ditch the "
address. His new email address (which has been tried, tested
and is true) is
All emails that were sent to me under "blueone" in the last week or so
were undeliverable/unreadable, so I never got them.
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WHATS ON AND WHERE?
Wednesday July 14, 1999
Alexandria Air Canada Retirees Lunch Group monthly, for info
Clive 613-525-4819 or Cam 224-6469
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Friday July 16, 1999
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly
at 10 am, Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Saturday July 17, 1999
Kelowna BC Air Display
Lazo BC Comox Valley International Air Show
Sunday July 18, 1999
Lazo BC Comox Valley International Air Show
Tuesday July 20, 1999
Burlingame California Retirees & Pionairs monthly meeting
at 11am Air Canada office all welcome
Fort St John BC Air Show 99
Wednesday July 21, 1999
BurOak Pionairs Grp, 10:30am at Mother Tuckers Market Place,
QEW South Service Rd between Walkers's and Guelph lines
Burlington Ontario
Fort St John BC Air Show 99
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am
Sweets and Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Vancouver Is. Pionairs Annual Picnic at Mt Douglas Park at
11am price is $2pp
Friday July 23, 1999
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly
at 10 am, Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Sunday July 25, 1999
Prince George BC Air Show
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COMMENTS BETWEEN YOURSELVES
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:56:42 -0400
From: Betty Lou and/or Don Lynn <
Subject: Re: NetLetter 384 Jul 7/99
Now that the 'stews' have secured a new contract and the IAM
is about to enter into negotiations, it would be comforting
(to say the least!) if some consideration was given to
including retirees and their (our) pensions in the
deliberations...the reported package won by the 'stews' does
seem to be considerably richer than what we received...!
(spoken with tongue in cheek<G>....ed)
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Subject: Re Family Affair question
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:51:06 -0500
I think Don Demeza's reply is probably the correct answer to
the refund part. The initial question by Irv Christjanson
suggested "Family Affair" passengers had been threatened
with denied boarding due oversales presumably because they
were "Family Affair" passengers.
Oversale conditions are a sticky wicket at the best of
times. The issue of who should be denied boarding under
those conditions should be in accord with the overall
policies regarding oversale conditions.
I have just one bit of advice for Family Affair
passengers....always check in early for your flights.
Best regards Bill Norberg ....
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KEEPING TRACK OF OUR CF-TCC
Re the numbers on the fins of CF-TCC I suspect they were the
company assigned aircraft reference numbers. Bill Norberg
...
Looks to me like the manufacturers serial number. Just a
hazard guess. Ross Graham
...
(ps we didnt get the answers yet from Capt Macleod, sorry
for the suspense)
in the meantime because I love trivia and cant resist
answering , my answer is that the 25 signifies the 25th
anniversary for TCA in 1962 eg 1937-1962?........Vesta.
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HOT OFF THE PRESS.
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:36:54 -0300
Capt. Alan MacLeod visited with us while in Moncton and
asked me this morning to relay an update for "Between
Yourselves." He is in Charlottetown, PEI this morning and
spoke to him via Amateur Radio.
TANGO CHARLIE CHARLIE
From: Alan MacLeod <
Tango Charlie Charlie departed Dorval on Thursday July 8 for
YQM Moncton where Transport Canada offered use of their
Hanger and AC coordination was nicely handled
by Paul Cormier.
On board was former AC navigator and pilot, Phil Pawsey.
Phil gave high marks for enroute navigation and piloting.
Despite unfavourable weather, four "Dreams" flights were
flown on Saturday July 10.
On board one of the flights was Percy Waddy former wartime
(Libs)and TCA pilot.Percy left the Airline in 1949 to manage
a very successful farming and lumber business near Moncton.
After the last Moncton flight, CF-TCC was then flown to
Charlottetown. Pilots for the Moncton operation and the
flight to Charlottetown were Capt's. Alan MacLeod and Harvey
Reid. Capt. Ken Patry will join Capt. Macleod for the
Charlottetown and Halifax "DREAMS" flights.
Weather forced cancellation of "DREAMS" flights planned for
Sunday, July 11 at Charlottetown.
CF-TCC is now stored at the YYG Prince Edward Air Hanger and
the operation is re-scheduled for Thursday July 15.
TCC will be in Halifax July 16, 17 and 18. Halifax "DREAMS"
flights will operate from the Air Canada Maintenance Hanger.
Two other stops in Maritimes will be Fredericton on July 20
and Saint John on July 21 and 22.
Capt. Ted Dodds will join Capt. MacLeod for the "DREAMS"
flights in Fredericton and Saint John.
More to follow. Alan MacLeod
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Passing this message for Alan gives me the opportunity to
express appreciation for regularly receiving "Between
Yourselves." During the late fifties and early sixties I
acted as liaison officer between CNTelecommunications and
Air Canada for telecom services we supplied: teletype
networks and switching systems, voice system for dispatch,
ReserVec I & II, etc. and worked with Cam Campbell, Bob
Williamson, Ralph Thomas, Don Demeza, Graham Williams and
many others. Learned much about the airline and its telecom
requirements and met some very fine people as we travelled
across the system. It's interesting to see many familiar
names appearing in your newsletter.
Maintaining such an informative publication is no easy task
and you are both to be commended on a super job.
Many thanks.Regards, Bill Gillis
Wm. J. "Bill" Gillis, VE1WG
Atlantic Region Director
RADIO AMATEURS of CANADA
1308 Shediac Road
Moncton NB E1A 7A7
TEL: 506-383-8016
FAX: 506-383-1034
E-mail:
Packet:
(your 'pilot' of "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" was one of
those that worked in Telecomms during that time and later,
and with all of the above.)
Thanks very much Bill, Terry and I appreciate this.
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NEWS FROM RAPCAN
AIR CANADA BARELY ESCAPED,
FLIGHT ATTENDANT TALKS WENT DOWN TO THE WIRE.
Unlike other labor disputes, the deadlock in this case
wasn't wages. A deal hinged on pensions. Knowing it was in a
strong bargaining position since AC could not afford another
devastating strike, the FA's refused to budge.When AC's
proposal arrived at 2330 hrs, it was all there. Union
officials signed on the dotted line. It was 0010 hrs.
The tentative deal includes lowering the age for early
retirement eligibility to 55 from 57. That means a 55 year-
old FA with 25 years of service will see a pension rise from
$15,625 to $19,025 a year. An employee with 35 years of
service will get $4,200 a year added to the current $21,800.
FA's eligible for early retirement from Nov. 1, 1998 to Oct.
31, 2000, will get an additional lump sum payment of $1,000
per year for each year of allowable service. AC agreed to
study the future of the pension plan and promised to
increase the plan benefit formula by Oct. 31, 2001 AC's
customers are returning faster than expected after the
airline averted a strike by FA's - but it's now on a crash
course with machinists that will cut further into profits.
AC handled 40,000 passenger across the system July 9th, and
36,000 on July 8th. It averages about 50,000 customers daily
during the peak summer travel season.
AC said it expected about half of that.
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AIR CANADA has lost the first round of a legal battle to
block both the $4.4 billion redevelopment of Pearson Intntl.
Airport and the fee increases to support it. The Ontario
Superior Court dismissed AC's claims of "intimidation" by
the Greater Toronto Airports Authority in their messy battle
over the redevelopment. The Court also ruled that while the
GTAA is allowed to set whatever rental and landing charges
it sees fit, AC also has the right to legally challenge in
the coming months whether they are "reasonable".
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An escalating battle between AC and the agency that runs
Pearson Intntl. Airport has spilled out of the board rooms
and into the skies. The passengers on AC flight 729 bound
Toronto from Newark last last month were among the victims.
They were forced to spend the night in Newark because the
GTA refused to allow their flight, which had been delayed by
bad weather, to land after-hours at Pearson. They are not
the only passengers who have seen their travel plans upset.
Since June 22, the authority has refused to allow any AC
flight to land or take off after the airport's nighttime
noise restriction kicks in at 12:30 a.m.
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COMPUTERS NEWS
Airlines Say They're Ready for Y2K (two of two parts will be
in another netletter.)
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more ACCOLADES <G>
Subject: cophenhagen hotels
Thanks for putting out the blurb on my search for a hotel in CPH. Well,
I received a few tips from our readers. Thank you so much. Will let
you know how it worked out. Sheila .......
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From: Jacques Gaucher <
Subject: Congratulations
I have kept all NetLetters since No.189 and always regretted not having
the complete collection.
Thanks to your BYN archives Web site, I now have it.
But the primary reason for this letter is to congratulate
you on a fantastic job.To take so much of your personal time
in retirement to dedicate yourself to other retirees is a
very altruistic quality.
I want you to know that your efforts and dedication are well
appreciated not only by me but also by others who will not
necessarily take the time to say thank you.
Jacques@thanks.a lot
.......
We would hate to miss any Netletters as they are always so
full of interest.Really appreciate receiving same Flora.
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TERRYS TRAVEL TIPS
Alan pointed out an error made in the following information which
was faithfully copied into NetLetter nr 385 -
Dominion Republic - There is a us$10.00 entry fee upon
arrival in the country. Visitors must purchase a tourist
card. There is also a us$10.00 departure tax.
Title should be -Dominican Republic
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SMILIE
From: Terry Baker <
Shortly after just landing at a big international airport in
his Cessna 150, our hero strolls into the busy airport
cafeteria for a bite to eat.
He finds an empty table by the window to keep an eye on the
airport comings and goings. Shortly thereafter, a striking
woman walks up and asks to share his table.
Naturally, he invites her to sit down. After several minutes
of small talk, the woman asks if he is a pilot.
He responds, "Why, yes, I am -- I fly a C-150."
Knowing next to nothing about airplanes, she asks him what a
C-150 is.
The pilot looks out the window and spots a C-130 Hercules
taxing out for takeoff.
Pointing to it, he tells his companion, "See that plane over
there? That is a C-130. I fly a C-150!"
. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.
mailto:
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Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
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number 385 July 10, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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IN MEMORIUM
RALPH HETHERINGTON, retired Millwright, Air Canada, W.W.II
Veteran, passed away on Friday, July 9th, 1999 at Niagara-on-
the-Lake Hospital. Visitation will be held on Tuesday, July
13th, 1999 at 1 p.m. and funeral service will be held at 3
p.m. at the W. John Thomas Funeral Home, 244 Victoria St. E.
(Hwy. 89), Alliston, Ontario (705) 435-5101. Refreshments
will follow at the Alliston Royal Canadian Legion.
Donations, in lieu of flowers, may be made to the Niagara-on-
the-Lake Hospital - Primary Care Unit.
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WELCOME ABOARD
who lives in Richmond BC He was a Customer Service
Coordinator,Cargo and is a Pionair.
who lives in Saint John, NB formerly District Sales Manager
at Moncton.
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Queries from our readers:
From: "Irvine Christjanson" <
Subject: A Question re Family Affair
In the travel guide it states that family affair tickets
(once purchased) are not refundable. At our last retirees
meeting (Burloak Koffee Klatch) we heard a situations where
a number of family affair holders were "threatened" at the
airport that they maybe denied boarding due to an oversale
condition on the flight. This we can understand but wonder
where in the priority list do family affair fares stand.
This is more confusing when, again, in the Travel Guide it
stipulates that family affair tickets are " not refundable".
What if the situation is that someone travelling with family
affair is doing go for a particular event, on a once only
particular date ( e.g., wedding, funeral) when if they are
denied boarding and the ticket is not refundable. I look
forward to a reply from you ( as always) so that I can make
a statement on our July meeting to be held on July 21st. God
bless you, and keep up the terrific work. Irv Christjanson
Action taken:
To:
From: Terry Baker <
Subject: family affaire
Linda Kwoon we understand is on vacation, and she gives your
name a the person who handle, amongst other items,
interpretation of pass policy and perhaps this falls into
your domain - We have received the following information and
we would welcome your response please so that we can pass
the information along to our retirees - (text sent as
mentioned above)
Heres a unofficial reply from: Don and June Demeza
<
Subject: RE: family affaire
- the ability of a group discussion to come up with a "one
of" situation never ceases to amaze me.
I don't know what the official answer will be but based on
the fact that special situations are fairly handled - that
has always been my experience - here's what I think would
happen.
Family Affaire are revenue and like any other revenue could
be denied boarding - have their flight cancelled etc. etc.
just like any other revenue passenger.
Those so handled are usually protected on the next flight
but it all that failed then I have no doubt that a refund
would be made on an exception basis. Don Demeza
~-=o0o=-~
TANGO CHARLIE CHARLIE
From: Alan MacLeod <
Tango Charlie Charlie flew 9 flight legs in support of
Starlight Foundation, from Dorval, over the July 3rd and 4th
weekend. All seats were full, and some "babes in arms" on a
few flights. Donations made to STARLIGHT, who support the
Montreal Sick Children's Hospital, totaled in excess of
$9,000.00. Congratulations to Lois Cadmen and Glen Day, of
the Pilot's Crew Scheduling office, who spearheaded this
operation. A tip of the hat to all the volunteers who helped
in Montreal..
The members of the town of Kirkland band entertained all
present. I even had a chance to direct the band between
flights. When I did, all they played was
"Happy Birthday To You. Wonder why !!!
Here's a trivia question.
About Lockheed Tango Charlie Charlie. Some of your retirees
should be able to respond to this:
If you get to see the aircraft when it visits your town, or
if you have a picture of it , look at either of the vertical
fins. Each fin has the number "25" painted on it.
T.C.A did not have twenty five Electras.
Q1.How many of you out there know what the significance of
"25" meant ??
Similarly if you happen to be in the National Aviation
Museum, in Ottawa, you will see CF-TCA there.
It has number "23" painted on the fins.
Q2. What is the significance of these numbers??
Answer later date, unless somebody sends it in to "BETWEEN
YOURSELVES - NetLetter" Norberg ?? Martin?? Rust?? Baker??
(this is not a competition to see who is first with the
answer, but how many of you can come up with the answer
before its published in the
"BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter")
The schedule for the month of July is as follows:
TCC flys Montreal to Moncton on the 8th and will be there
the 9th and 10th.
TCC flys on the evening of the 10th to Charlottetown, and
will fly there on the 11th
In both Moncton and Charlottetown it will fly for DREAMS
from the main terminal building--like a regular flight !
TCC will be in Halifax on the 16th,17th and 18th.
Flying will be from the Air Canada hanger, for DREAMS.
TCC will be in Fredericton on the 20th,
flying from the terminal building.
TCC will be in St.John on the 21st and 22nd.
TCC will fly to Collingwood on the evening of 22nd and
23rd. It will then fly on the 24th from Collingwood, in
support of the Collingwood Clippers Children's' Swim Team.
Come out and see the aircraft.
The aircraft will then fly to Winnipeg for maintenance and a
rest!
Pilots flying Moncton, Charlottetown Capt. Al.MacLeod &
Capt. Harvey Reid.
In Halifax Capt. Ken Patry and Capt. Alan MacLeod
In Fredericton and St. John Capt. Ted Dodds and Capt. Alan
MacLeod
To Collingwood and on to Winnipeg Capt. Gerry Norberg and
Capt. Ted Dodds.
More updates from Atlantic Canada. Alan MacLeod
~-=o0o=-~
FROM RAPCAN COMES THIS ACCOLADE.
From: "Ellie Park" <
Your efforts on our behalf are very much appreciated by
those of us who are sent copies out this way; as are the
those of Vesta Stevenson and Terry Baker, the Captain and Co-
pilot ( which should be First Officer) of Between Yourselves
Newsletter. Alan Rust also needs an honourable mention.
Perhaps that should read .. a Mention In Dispatches. At any
rate I certainly am grateful to all of you for keeping us up-
to-date on the happenings in and around the Airlines and
those of us who have retired. Stay with it. Many thanks.
Ellie
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From the Internet.
LONDON, England - A British oil worker who refused to switch
off his mobile phone on a plane was convicted Wednesday of
endangering an international flight. Prosecutors said Neil
Whitehouse repeatedly ignored the cabin crew's requests to
turn off his phone while on a British Airways flight from
Madrid to Manchester, northern England, in September. ``It
cannot be underestimated the alarm and concern your arrogant
conduct must have caused the 91 passengers and crew on this
Boeing 737,'' Judge Anthony Ensor said. ``I believe that
because of the seriousness of your conduct, a prison
sentence must follow.'' Prosecution witnesses said aircraft
navigational systems could have been affected by radio waves
from Whitehouse's phone, even though no calls were made
during the flight. Sentencing was pending. British Airways
said it was ``delighted'' with the decision.
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Airlines Say They're Ready for Y2K (One of two parts.)
WASHINGTON (USA) - U.S. and Canadian airlines say they are
95 percent finished with their Year 2000 computer repairs
and will be all done by summer's end.
The Federal Aviation Administration also said Thursday that,
despite a late start, all of its air traffic control
computers had been repaired and tested by the agency's own
June 30 deadline. A public declaration of success will come
later this month after an inspection by government auditors
and an outside consultant. The news put the focus on two
other areas of the airline industry that have yet to give a
clear picture of their readiness: airports - both domestic
and abroad - and foreign air carriers. Information from
those sources is trickling in, but it may be months before
it gets out to the public. The International Civil Aviation
Organization, a U.N.-based group, has been collecting
airport and airline preparedness data from foreign
governments.
The State Department, which has access to the data, may wait
until this fall before warning U.S. travelers about areas of
the world they should avoid at the new year, when some
computers may not be able to recognize the date 2000.
Meanwhile, the International Air Transport Association,
which represents 265 international airlines, has been
surveying its members. But the group's findings will remain
private in an effort to promote full disclosure by the
carriers. Passengers may not know which foreign airlines are
having problems until later this year, when they start
canceling flights around the New Year's holiday.contd next
nl.
~-=o0o=-~
Terry's Travel tips.
Mexico -
On July 1st, visitors travelling to Mexico via car, air or
bus will be required to pay a us$15.00 entry fee. For
airline passengers, the fee is in addition to the us$18.00
airport departure tax and will be added to your ticket.
Visitors arriving by road will pay the fee at the interior
check point 16 miles from the US border. Travellers staying
in border cities, such as Tijuana, will not be charged the
fee.
Dominion Republic - There is a us$10.00 entry fee upon
arrival in the country. Visitors must purchase a tourist
card. There is also a us$10.00 departure tax.
~-=o0o=-~
SMILIE frm RAPCAN,
A retired pilot's Last Will and Testament:
Being of sound mind, I spent all my money.
Of course I'm against sin; I'm against anything that I'm too old to
enjoy.
ANOTHER SMILIE From: Jack Morgan
As the crowded airline is about to take off, the peace is
shattered by a five year old boy who picks that moment to
throw a wild temper tantrum. No matter what his frustrated,
embarrassed mother does to try to calm him down, the boy
continues to scream furiously and kick the seats around him.
Suddenly, from the rear of the plane, an elderly man in the
uniform of an Air Force General is seen slowly walking
forward up the aisle. Stopping the flustered mother with an
upraised hand, the white-haired, courtly, soft- spoken
General leans down and, motioning toward his chest, whispers
something into the boy's ear.
Instantly, the boy calms down, gently takes his mother's
hand, and quietly fastens his seat belt.
All the other passengers burst into spontaneous applause. As
the General slowly makes his way back to his seat, one of
the cabin attendants touches his sleeve.
"Excuse me, General," she asks quietly, "but could I ask you
what magic words you used on that little boy?"
The old man smiles serenely and gently confides, "I showed
him my pilot's wings, service stars, and battle ribbons, and
explained that they entitle me to throw one passenger out
the plane door, on any flight I choose."
~-=o0o=-~
. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.
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Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
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number 384 July 7th,1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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Just a reminder, for articles or comments to the editors of
the NetLetter,
please mailto:
~-=o0o=-~
For your information, you can contact the Air Canada
Winnipeg Pension & Administration Manager, Bernice Paul, by
e-mail at <
~-=o0o=-~
WELCOME ABOARD
who lives in Kemptville ON Certificated Aircraft Technician
Pionairs
lives in Montreal QC was a Captain.
who lives in Montreal QC Aircraft Inspector
~-=o0o=-~
BIOGRAPHY
From: "Paul Bredt" <
Well, here I am at the keyboard. Please forgive my fumbles
as this is all very new to me. David (Walker) has been
nagging me to get on the net for the past few months and
finally I have weakened.
I joined TCA July 2 1946 as a First Officer on Lockheed
1408. Probably my favorite aircraft were the Lockheeds as I
was involved in the introduction of the L1011 into the
fleet. That was fun. I retired 30 March 1983 as a Captain on
the 47. Those were great years. Since retiring my golf has
improved remarkably.
Please add me to the list of those receiving the Netletter
that you so kindly publish. You can put my name on the E-
Mail list for anyone who might wish to contact me that way.
Regards Bill Bredt
~-=o0o=-~
NEWS FROM THE PIONAIR DISTRICTS:
The Edmonton Pionair barbecue will be held on August 11,
1999 - 4 p.m. to 8 p.m., featuring Alberta Beef Tenderloin.
The location is Kinsmen River Valley Place. Cost has been
changed to only $10.00 per person. Deadline for booking is
August 3, 1999. For tickets or more information contact
Lorraine Horsley at (780) 988 9074 or Shirley Jay (780) 436
0866.
~-=o0o=-~
YYZNEWS: Brian Dunn
Air Canada has brought back two DC-9-32s from their desert
parking at Marana Arizona. On the 14th of June C-FTMD(729)
was ferried MZJ-MCI-YUL and went back into service on June
23rd flying YUL-YYZ, then YYZ to Moncton (YQM) and back.
Then C-FTMX(749) was ferried MZJ-MCI-YUL yesterday, June
30th. Meanwhile, the final A340-300X was delivered on June
28th flying Toulouse-Montreal with 17200kgs of cargo on
board. Technically it was a ferry flight, but some might
argue it was a first revenue flight. It was registered C-
GDVZ (910) and is expected to go into revenue service within
the next couple of days.
~-=o0o=-~
GTAA has launched a lawsuit against Air Canada to enforce
full payment of the 1999 airport fees. The airline is
approximately in arrears for $7million. Air Canada has been
paying its airport fees based on the 1998 fee schedule and
withholding the extra amount billed for the higher 1999 fee
~-=o0o=-~
..meanwhile the countdown towards a possible flight
attendants strike is on for July 7th. The Minister of Labour
has released the parties, but at the same time appointed two
mediators to help the two parties reach a negotiated
agreement. The strike deadline is set for 2359hrs July 7th.
Unlike the last time the flight attendants went on strike,
the company has no plans to operate a skeleton schedule with
"management" personnel.
~-=o0o=-~
Lost and found.
Miami International Airport lost and found auction happens
every 3 months in the open auditorium at Concourse B, 4th
floor. Merchandise includes everything from wind surfing
equipment to stereo components. (305) 876-0378
~-=o0o=-~
Unclaimed Baggage Centre, Scottsbro, Alabama is the nations
largest merchant of unclaimed and lost airline baggage.
(256) 259- 1525
~-=o0o=-~
QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED.:
frm Alan Rust BTW - I guess someone must have told you by
now, but the Lockheed in the last NetLetter 383 was not an
"Electra". I used to work on Electra's when I worked for
Nordair. I think you meant the Lockheed 10A.
from Terry:
According to the info in the Air Canada pocket guide, the
Lockheed 10A was an 'Electra' and the Lockheed 14H2 was a
'Super Electra'. Sorry to muddy the air lanes<g>. I know the
'Electra' you mean Alan, they were a 4 engined more modern
aircraft, and the military type is called the 'Orion' used
for coastal patrols.
'Electra' Alan
Thanks for jumping in.... I stand corrected, and was
surprised that Lockheed made two aircraft called the
"Electra". As you say the one I was talking about was a four
engine turbo prop. I flew on it (and took care of it) on a
trip to northern Quebec on Christmas eve when I worked for
Nordair.----------------------
(thanks to Alan and Terry, now we all know, ed vs)
~-=o0o=-~
. Found on the internet.
In an industry first, American Airlines and Canadian
Airlines have linked their electronic ticket systems in
order to allow one airline to issue paper less tickets on the
other carrier. Passengers on code share flights or on
interline journeys involving both carriers no longer need a
paper ticket. Similarly, passengers ticketed on one carrier
and transferring to the other will no longer need to have
the original carrier issue them a paper ticket before
proceeding to their new flight. The new service is already
available for tickets bought directly from American Airlines
or Canadian Airlines but will soon be extended to travel
agents and online reservation systems as well.
~-=o0o=-~
Y2K
Vietnam Airlines has decided to ground its entire fleet on
December 31, 1999 for 24 hours in order to avoid any
complication related to the so-called millennium bug.
Flights will resume on January 1, 2000, if no problem is
detected.
~-=o0o=-~
"YOU'RE CLEARED TO LAND, GOOD BUDDY":
Many a trucker has been lauded as a Good Samaritan for
helping a stranded motorist, but this is the first we've
heard of a big-rig driver helping a pilot in trouble. An
anonymous trucker in Los Angeles noticed a Cessna 150 with a
rough-running engine circling over Interstate 5, and
promptly turned his 18-wheeler around to block two lanes of
busy traffic, making room for the 150 to land successfully.
~-=o0o=-~
AIRCRAFT ORDERS
US regional carrier Horizon Air (QX) has announced a firm
order for 15 Dash 8 Q400 from Bombardier, along with options
for a further 15 and for 25 70-seat CRJ-700 regional jet
aircraft.
~-=o0o=-~
Northwest Airlines (NW) of the US has reached a Memorandum
Of Understanding (MOU) with Airbus Industrie for the
conversion of options on 30 A320 family aircraft.
Denmark's SAS Commuter (SK), a unit of SAS, has placed a
firm order for two Dash 8 Q400, bringing the total of the
type in service with SAS Commuter or on order to 19.
Low cost pioneer Southwest Airlines (WN) has placed a repeat
order for six more Boeing 737-700 aircraft.
~-=o0o=-~
Terry's travel tips.
From Dargal Interline -
Sept 16 - 10 Nights - Royal Caribbean Splendour of the Seas -
Fall Foliage Boston, Bar Harbor/Maine, Halifax/Nova Scotia,
Sydney/Nova Scotia, Quebec City Saguenay River (cruising),
Corner Brook/Newfoundland, Saint John/New Brunswick, Boston
Inside $959, Outside $1059
All rates are US$ per person/double, subject to availability
and eligibility.
New bookings only. Port charges/Govt fees are additional.
Here it is....the perfect vacation for Family and Friends to
share together. Enjoy the warmth of the Western Caribbean
sun, dive down to brilliantly colored coral reefs, visit
ancient Mayan ruins and feel the rhythm of the joyful, jazzy
city of New Orleans and fulfill your vacation fantasies! Nov
14 - 7 Days - Carnival "SENSATION" Tampa, "Fun Day" at Sea,
Grand Cayman, Playa del Carmen, Cozumel "Fun Day" at Sea,
New Orleans, "Fun Day" at Sea, Tampa Inside $499, Outside
$650, 3rd and 4th sharing $229 All rates are US$ per
person/double, subject to availability and eligibility. New
bookings only. Port charges/Govt fees are additional. For
more information on this and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223
~-=o0o=-~
From: Sheila Moscoe <
ask you or our readers if someone has info on a hotel in
Copenhagen with good airline rates. We are planning to
arrive there on July 28 (Wed) and leave on July 30 (Fri) to
catch a cruise on the Rotterdam VI.
~-=o0o=-~
Found on the Internet.
According to the Air Transport Assoc. more than ninety
percent of tickets sold by U.S. airlines are discounted an
average of two- thirds off the full fare. Mostly last minute
business travellers .
~-=o0o=-~
Todays Smilie is from: Jacques Gaucher
<
special half-fare rate for wives accompanying their husbands
on business trips. Anticipating some valuable testimonials,
the publicity department of the airline sent out letters to
all the wives of businessmen who used the special rates,
asking them how they enjoyed their trip. Responses are still
pouring in asking, "What trip?"
~-=o0o=-~
. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust administrator of
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number 383 July 3rd, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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WELCOME ABOARD
living in: Laval QC Crew Manning & Allocation Manager
WHATS GOING ON AND WHERE?
Tuesday July 6, 1999
Calgary AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc Convention
Edmonton Pionairs Coffee & Chat - Smitty's Lounge,
Kingsway Garden Mall 10 am
Kelowna and Vernon Pionairs monthly 10am
Coffee&Chat at Muffin Break.
Montreal,Pionairs Bowling League, Valois Lanes
info 626-3263
Penticton monthly Coffee&Chat at 10am at
Tim Hortons, Cherry Lane Shopping Mall
Toronto T2 Coffee Klatch,Pearson A/P Sales retirees 11am
Golden Griddle,5559 Airport Rd,on airport strip,
free parking, monthly raffle for dinner at host restaurant.
contact Sheila Moscoe
Wednesday July 7, 1999
Calgary AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc Convention
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Thursday July 8, 1999
Calgary AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc Convention
Friday July 9, 1999
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10
am, Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Tuesday July 6, 1999
Calgary AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc Convention
Edmonton Pionairs Coffee & Chat - Smitty's Lounge,
Kingsway Garden Mall 10 am
Kelowna and Vernon Pionairs monthly 10am Coffee&Chat
at Muffin Break.
Montreal,Pionairs Bowling League, Valois Lanes
info 626-3263
Penticton monthly Coffee&Chat at 10am at Tim Hortons,
Cherry Lane Shopping Mall
Toronto T2 Coffee Klatch,Pearson A/P Sales retirees 11am
Golden Griddle,5559 Airport Rd,on airport strip, free
parking, monthly raffle for dinner at host restaurant.
contact Sheila Moscoe
Wednesday July 7, 1999
Calgary AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc Convention
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Thursday July 8, 1999
Calgary AB Canadian Business Aircraft Assoc Convention
Friday July 9, 1999
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10
am, Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
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NetLetter , please use:
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BIOGRAPHY OF ANNE MORRIS:
From: "Anne" <
In January 1981 lucky me became a member of the Air Canada
family. I was hired by Harry O'Brien and Ray Shea in the
Customs & Transportation Department at the Dorval
Maintenance Base. I worked upstairs in 62, Facilities and
Supply, in the Import Department and then went downstairs
just off main stores to work in the Export Department with
Bob Birnie (he's still there, but a better grouping now!).
Eventually going back up the stairs to be Bob Siwik's
secretary (still Customs). Harry O'Brien and Ray Shea had
retired by that time. In 1986 I moved over to the power
plant and worked with Erv Williston in stores as secretary
to "the gang". The gang consisted of Frank Baddley, John
Hasimoto, Mike Burnstun, Les ? and another Mike ? It's been
awhile, lol. And, 42 Storemen. I come from a very long
history of family working and worked for Air Canada/Trans
Canada Airlines. My father Robert Bathgate, power plant,
acft mechanic. My hubby James Morris, power plant, cat 23.
My adopted family: Charlie Sim, stores, main base. Peter
Hamilton, Sr. stores, cargo C. Anne Hamilton, stores, cargo
C. Peter Hamilton, Jr. somewhere at Dorval Base Ian Wilson,
stores, main base. These last 5 people I have known since I
was 5yrs old. They are my adopted family since leaving my
"family" behind in Scotland when my father decided to come
to Canada. My father also tells me when we first came to
Canada (and living in Lachine, Quebec) I used to play with a
little girl by the name of Linda Rude. Seemingly her father
was one of the first pilots with Trans Canada Airlines: What
~-=o0o=-~
A NEW BREED OF THINKING COMPUTER?
A team of researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology
and a handful of other groups are working to develop hybrid
biocomputers that marry living nerve cells with silicon
circuits to create smarter computers. If they succeed, they
could set the foundation for brain-like computer systems
that could find solutions on their own, with no need for
step-by-step programming instructions. So far, researchers
have joined two neurons from leeches and linked them to a
personal computer, which sent signals to each cell and
correctly extracted the answer to a simple addition problem.
The program that links the neurons and the PC, dubbed
"wetware," is based on chaos theory, using the results to
tune the neurons and alter the way they communicate.
Ultimately, brain-like chips will be more creative and may
mirror both the good and bad aspects of human thinking.
William L. Ditto, who heads the project at the Georgia
Institute of Technology, says it will be 10 years or more
until biocomputers are commercially available. (Business
Week 06/21/99)
~-=o0o=-~
Vesta: Here is an update on the Lockheed.
18:00 E.D.T, Wed 30th.
Tango Tango Charlie just flew by and did a 360deg turn over
my house here in Hudson. Capt. Patry and Capt Reid returning
from Wiarton where the aircraft participated in the "Airport
Day" activities.
While flying for DREAMS at the Toronto City Center Airport
on the 24th,25th 26th and 27th the aircraft did 16 flights.
Flights were full. That's 144 people!! The DREAMS COMMITTEE
exceeded their objective for the children. Good show.
How about this. A couple who work for U.S.Air, in San
Francisco, heard about the program. They flew to Toronto
just to fly in the Electra! Those folks are probably the
first passengers ever, to fly from SFO to YYZ with a
connection to a Lockheed Electra flight !! They were
ecstatic about their flight.
Next is July 3rd and 4th, in Dorval, for Starlight
Foundation. Lois Cadman, Crew Scheduling Secretary, Pilots,
says the two days are booked except for two seats. There
will be a 32 piece band playing at the hanger. Food,
memorabilia on display. An original TCA belt loader in
action. Capt. Harvey Reid plans to drive to work in his 1939
Lincoln Zephyer. He's agreed to take me with him if he can
act as the Captain.
Tango Charlie Charlie will undergo grooming on the midnight
shift to-night. The aircraft departs for Atlantic Canada on
the 8th of July for two weeks. Alan MacLeod
~-=o0o=-~
Vestas Travel Tips
If your going to Ottawa take in,
VAN GOGH'S IRISES 11 June - 16 September 1999
~-=o0o=-~
. Found on the internet.
Crossair, the Swiss Regional Airline operates an MD80
painted all over red and emblazoned with McDonald's in
white, The MD80 reg HB-IUL is dubbed 'MacPlane' and meals
offered from the Golden Arches. Crossair also operate a SAAB
SF340A painted black with 'Phantom of the opera' the whole
length of the aircraft, and a mask painted on the fin. Reg
is HB-IZK.
~-=o0o=-~
. Spotted in the Globe & Mail dated June 20th 1980**
Flying high on expertise. Flying people around isn't what
makes Air Canada rich. Selling expertise to other airlines
and the travel industry accounted for more than 75% of the
airline's profits for last year. (1979).
~-=o0o=-~
. David Morath sends this information from LHR -
'A grieving family tried to take a dead relative on to a
flight in their luggage. They wheeled a coffin to a British
Airways Check-in desk thinking they could squeeze it into
overhead lockers rather than leave it in the cargo hold.
Shocked staff at Manchester Airport explained to the
Pakistan bound passengers that the corpse could only travel
as freight. The coffin was balanced on the trolley in a busy
main terminal concourse. The group wanted to take the dead
man abroad for burial in Pakistan. A BA spokesman stated
'Bodies have to be taken as freight, we do list the more
obvious items which passengers are not allowed to have on
aircraft such as firearms and explosive, but it is a bit
difficult to include everything!'
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A report last week said that another passenger was turned
away at check-in with 30 budgies in his coat.
And a magician tried to take a 9ft python on board.
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Rumour has it that British Midland may be joining the Star
Alliance in 2000.
. Terry's travel tips.
When visiting Seattle, why not drop in to see the Museum of
Flight at Boeing Field. Hours are 10:00 to 17:00 daily, and
10:00 to 21:00 on Thursday. To get there take I5 south of
Seattle, exit 158 and follow the brown signs.
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. Smilie from Terry.
Found in 'Stewardess' by R.Serling - Aboard a 'Connie' that
had been delayed leaving the gate, the flight attendant
check in the cockpit to enquire the reason for the delay.
'It's the damn gyro', the captain explained pointing to one
of the several bewildering array of instruments, ' I can't
get the thing to erect'. The flight attendant thanked the
captain and returned to the cabin and picked up the mike for
the pa system. 'Ladies and gentlemen', she drawled, 'the
captain advises me he is waiting for an erection, after
which we will be on our way. Thank y'all for travelling XYZ
airline'
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. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.
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