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Subject: [The NetLetter] NetLetter nr 858 Nov 3/04 - The NetLetter
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 858 Nov 3rd.,  2004. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2700+

Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker

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. Nice to know.
The allotment of C1/J10 is 4 per year for employees, spouses and their
dependant children if any. This allotment can be used by you either for a
single segment or a return segment as per your requirements.

To simplify, the system will deduct a pass when either one of the following
three conditions takes place,

- If the trip returns back to its origin or
- If 30 days have elapsed from the start of the journey or
- 8 segments of the trip have been completed.

You will be able to use the passes for 2 one way and a return trip as well
this year.

If you have any travel related queries please call our Employee Travel
representative at 1 866 473 4732.

Air Canada News:
Air Canada launches non-stop flights to Lima. November 1st's departure of
flight AC080 from Toronto to Lima, Air Canada launches its three times
weekly non-stop service between Canada and Peru. Tomorrow, on Nov. 2, the
airline will introduce non-stop service between Toronto and Buenos Aires
adding to its three weekly flights to Buenos Aires via Santiago, Chile, to
offer customers up to six flights per week to the Argentine capital. Air
Canada is also boosting its schedule to Sao Paulo, Brazil to daily service
from six flights per week beginning Dec. 1.

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. Re using the goods pass on Fedex -
The FedEx depot in Burnaby, BC will not accept packages on the weekend
for interline rates. (That is how employee/retiree discounts are referred
to). I found out the hard way in spite of phoning their 1-800 # to make
sure. I was told that there was no restriction but found out otherwise at
the depot. I tried to get the number of that depot to find out beforehand
but it was not available.
Whether Burnaby is an exception or not I don't know.
regards, Jim Murray.

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. Vesta, our Chief pilot sends this -
I would really appreciate a postcard from one of our NetLetter readers
showing current renovations to Montreal/Trudeau airport as I spent
1953-1970 working there and I get homesick for Montreal once in awhile. My
home address will be given on request.
Thanks, Vesta.
ps I have visited their web site.

and, for those of you undecided about attending the next A.G.M. in Niagara
Falls, perhaps this article will persuade you to attend! -
A Toronto tax accountant has won the largest slot-machine jackpot in
Canadian history, picking up nearly $5.8 million at a Niagara Falls casino.

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. Found on the internet.
Airbus is evaluating a revolutionary new economy-class passenger
seat that could dramatically change its cabin layouts. The new folding seat
hav e been developed similar to the cinema seats that tip up out of the way
when not in use. The new seat would be locked in psition for take-off and
landings, but comes self stowing during embarkation and disembarkation, or
when the passenger needs to get out to the aisles.

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. Star Alliance news.
South African Airways, TAP Air Portugal and Blue1 are planning to join
the Star Alliance.

Tony Coleman, Director London UK Pionairs sends this info -
BAA reaches agreement with Star Alliance on Heathrow
The airports operator BAA is close to settling its long-running dispute
with Star Alliance over facilities at Heathrow airport. BAA disclosed
Tuesday that it expects to sign a memo of understanding in the next few
weeks with the 14 airlines which make up Star under which they will agree
to move into Terminal One when British Airways and its partners in oneworld
relocate to the new Terminal 5 in 2008. The agreement is likely to end a
lengthy and fractious row with the Star members which had threatened to end
up in the courts. Star had accused BAA of treating it unequally by refusing
to provide it with competitive facilities at Heathrow to BA and its
partners, who will have sole use of the new T5, which is costing GBP4.2b to
build and will be bigger than most other airports in Europe in its own
right. The relocation of Star to Terminal One and oneworld to the fifth
terminal will free up Terminal Four for use by the Skyteam alliance

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. Remember when!
Inflight service crew on inaugural flight 580 YVR-DEN Oct 29th 1995
were Bruce
Achtim(YWG), Cheryle Kraemer (YWG), Susan Davidson (YYZ) and Christine
Piechowaik (YUL).
Inaugural flight 523 YVR - SFO on Oct 29th 1995 were Jon Moore, Jill
Hong, Peter
McKenna-Small and Capt C.A.McKinnon with F/O Neville Fong.

Regarding a comment in NetLetter nr 857, Murielle St-Germain sends
this message -
As a flight attendant, I remember working DC-8 flights between
Vancouver and Montreal  in the early Spring of 1961 Was that not "DC-8
service on transcontinental services"?
Murielle St-Germain TCA-Air Canada Retired Employee

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.  THE 3rd ANNUAL FoFS REUNION LUNCH (Friends of Front Street)
Location: The Royal Canadian Legion Hall,
3326 Bloor Street W.,Toronto,ON
When: Saturday, November 27, 1:00pm
Phone: 416 231-2021
Shirlee Schacter & Bob Newson
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. Jean Gregory sends us this information -
I was recently in London Heathrow Airport. Pursuant to your earlier
suggestion that A.C. employees might receive a discount on food & beverages,
that's where we headed. We found that employees had to actually work in
Heathrow (and have that identification tag) to receive the discount. In any
case, the fish & chips were very good.
Regards, Jean Gregory

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. Help wanted!
I write to seek your assistance having been given your email address by
George Trussell, a retired AC employee and a member of your group.
George and myself are both members of an organization called Air Britain
which is a voluntary group here in the UK providing reference and news to
aviation enthusiasts. I would stress at the outset that Air Britain is a
totally non-profit making body and is run by voluntary enthusiasts. One
major area is the production of monographs on individual aircraft type
It is in this connection that I am involved and seek your help as I am
currently in the final stages of putting together a monograph on the full
histories of all Vickers Viscount aircraft produced.
Trans-Canada Air Lines (later Air Canada) operated a fleet of Viscounts and
whilst the majority of their operational histories is known there remains
some outstanding details which if they could be ascertained would then
provide a complete history of Air Canada Viscount operations.
George believes that you might be able to direct me to the Air Canada
Archives Group who I could then approach seeking their help in unearthing
the outstanding information that I seek. Would you indeed have this
information? The information I seek relates to the first service date for
each Viscount, on which route was the first flight on and if it was an
existing route which type of aircraft did the Viscount replace?
George has also advised that you produce a newsletter and run a web site.
He says that many retired pilots, engineers and operational staff are
included in your membership - there will be a section in the monograph
about reminiscences and I am always looking out for the views and
recollections of people directly involved with the Viscount. These can
often be quite humorous I have found. George has said that requests for
information on past operations have appeared in the past on your
site/newsletter so would there be any chance of posting my request?
I appreciate that I am asking a lot of you but any assistance you could
afford to me in my research would be greatly appreciated. I have been
undertaking my research for over 35 years now so the monograph will indeed
be a serious piece of work.
Many thanks once again for your time.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Here's a couple of different trips from Interlining Plus -

16 Day - Southern Cross Excursion
The Shongololo Express is one of the worlds great train adventures. It
allows you to travel comfortably and securely at night, while waking up to
new scenery every morning. Multilingual guides and their air-conditioned
Minibuses travel on board the train. The packages include a multitude of
activities, giving you unprecedented freedom of choice.
The Southern Cross travels across 6 Southern African countries in 16 days.
The route is carefully crafted to deliver stunning experiences every day,
from Zimbabwe to Boswana, Zambia, South Africa, Mozambique and Swaziland.
As the tracks unfurl, you'll gain rare insight into the cultural and
geographical cocktail that makes Southern Africa so vibrant and exciting.
Route Summary Northbound - South Africa: Johannesburg, Soweto and Pretoria;
Swaziland: Mbabane; Mozambique: Maputo; South Africa: Kruger National Park
- Panarama Route - Soutpansberg - Venda; Zimbabwe: Great Zimbabwe -
Bulawayo (Matobo National Park) - Hwange National Park; Zambia:
Livingstone; Botswana: Chobe National Park; Zimbabwe: Victoria Falls. (Note
route can be in reverse dependent upon departure dates).
Feb 10, 2005 Departure
Ivory Class - $2823 USD per person based on double occupancy.
Gold Class - $3650 USD per person based on double occupancy
Emerald Class - $4523 USD per person based on double occupancy
March 3, 2005 Departure
Ivory Class - $3176 USD per person based on double occupancy
Gold Class - $4106 USD per person based on double occupancy
Emerald Class - $5088 USD per person based on double occupancy
Tuscan Wine Tour Holiday
7 Nights - May 14, 2005
Enjoy the beauty of Tuscany and let an expert wine escort introduce you to
the wine and wineries of Tuscany. You will visit the Chianti Hills and the
Montepulciano wine regions. This fabulous holiday includes breakfast and
one other meal daily, many wine tastings, a car rental with unlimited
miles, services of a tour escort and a chance to sightsee in one of Italy's
most famous regions. You will visit the hill towns of San Gimignano and
Volterra, Radda in Chianti, the Avignonesi wine cellars and cathedral,
Florence and Siena. You will stay in a Tuscan Villa which will act as your
home base for daily excursions.
Contact Us For A Detailed Itinerary.
Limited Space - Only $1689 USD per person based on double occupancy. Does
not include Air.
Please call our Europe Specialist at 1-800-665-3100 ext 1270
Call Interlining Plus for details of the many great interline deals -
Interlining Plus
Local phone: 604-606-1700 Toll Free: 1-800-665-3100
Fax: 604-606-1720

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. Smilie.
"On a flight from Anchorage to Tokyo, the flight engineer went back
into the passenger cabin," wrote Murray. "An elderly woman passenger
stopped him and asked him what the temperature was. 'It's 70 degrees,
madam,' he replied, adding, 'But outside it's 30 degrees below zero.'
'Young man,' the woman demanded, 'What were you doing outside?'"

"I needed a flying fix one Saturday, so I loaded my wife and six-year-old
daughter into a rented 182 and flew from Boeing Field in Seattle to Tacoma
Narrows Airport for lunch," wrote Barrus. "Our twenty-mile flight over
Puget Sound lasted only nine minutes, but to a first-grader who had never
crossed a body of water in an airplane before, it must have seemed like an
exotic journey indeed. As we walked across the ramp toward the airport
restaurant, she placed her tiny hand in mine and asked, 'Daddy, do people
here speak the same language as us?'"

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