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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 658,  Feb 1st,  2002. We first published in October 1995.

Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker

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. Need to know.
2002 Partner Program Takes Effect Today.
Starting today, all Air Canada and Air Canada Regional active and retired
employees, widow/widowers or spouses must accompany their travel partners on
all Air Canada, Tango, Air Canada Regional and Tier III flights. This
responsibility can’t be transferred to
parents or dependent children. If unaccompanied partners travel
after this date, it will be considered an abuse of the employee’s travel
privileges. In situations where partners have purchased revenue tickets because
they are stranded, costs will not be reimbursed.
Air Canada Regional Employees Now Have Access To SR And ETW.
Also starting today, Air Canada Regional employees can use Speech Recognition
(SR) and the Employee Travel Website (ETW) to register themselves and eligible
family members listed on their CHIP, for standby travel. Employees eligible to
arrange for business travel
can also use these two convenient tools. Regional employees will receive a
letter explaining the SR and ETW tools.

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. Nice to know.
Air Canada News:
14 New Tango Routes Provide Canadians With Low Fare, High Value
Air Service From Coast To Coast.
In response to rapidly growing demand for Tango’s low fare, high value service,
yesterday we announced the addition of nine new destinations and 14 new routes
to its network. Tango’s 2002 summer service will grow to 68 daily departures.
The new routes are as follows: Starting May 1 ­ Kelowna-Toronto,
Québec City-Montreal-Winnipeg, Québec City-Toronto and Fredericton-St.
John-Toronto. Starting June 1 ­ Toronto-Abbotsford, Toronto-Calgary-Victoria,
Toronto-Deer Lake, Toronto-Gander, Toronto-Charlottetown and Ottawa-Winnipeg.
In addition, we will add a
fourth daily Tango flight between Montreal-Toronto and a second
daily flight to both Montreal-Halifax and Ottawa-Halifax. Tango’s rapid growth
will include more aircraft. Out current fleet of six A320 aircraft will now
include eight A320s and eight Boeing B737-200s. Tickets on the new routes will
be available for sale starting Feb. 7.

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One of Our Longest Service Employee Retires Friday, Feb. 1. After a mere 47
years, 10 months and 10 days, Margaret Hill, Administrative Assistant ­ South
Pacific, has decided to quit the business and move on to other interests.
Margaret joined Canadian Pacific in Sydney, Australia straight out of
secretarial college on April 20, 1954, and has held the same job for her entire
career ­ I wonder how many Managers that adds up to? While the Company has
undergone many changes, Margaret has been a wonderful constant in the lives of
those she works with. It’s hard to imagine, but when she first started, a
flight from Vancouver to Sydney took two and a half days. Congratulations,
Margaret, and best of luck in your future endeavours!

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so that we can delete it from the servers listing while adding your new one.
This is done manually by your Chief pilot.
Thanks. Vesta.

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.  We thought we would run this story again from Charles Mackie  -
This is a tale of one of my experiences while serving as a Flight Radio Officer
on the CGTAS during the 1940s.
It was on one of the first North Star flights that was introduced onto the
Atlantic service, and on this return trip we had to go to London from Prestwick
to pick up some passengers. The aircraft developed a Mechanical and we were
told it take about 8 hours to fix
BOAC very graciously offered us a Driver and a Van to go and explore London ,
which we gladly accepted.
There were seven of us, Capt Dal Woodward, a First Officer, Navigator, Radio
Officer (me) and a Steward as well as two Stewardess. Someone suggested we go
to a town called Staines up the upper Thames River and go hire a boat and go
for a cruise down the upper Thames and on the way there went past Windsor
Castle. The Girls were dropped off at the Castle and wanted to go shopping. One
of the girls was going to get married soon and wanted to buy some Silverware.
We arrived at the boathouse and discovered that their boats would only carry
three persons in each boat
so we had to hire two boats to accomodate us. Dal Woodward, myself and the
Steward where in one and the First Officer and Navigator in the other.
We started downstream rather slowly because the engines had a plug in the
intake of the carburator, which restricted the speed. Dal looked around and
found some Paddles in the boat and we started to paddle to speed up the boat.
The other two in the other boat soon caught on and did the same thing. Dal says
to me get closer and we would splash them with our paddles. Well that started a
real war and we all soaking wet before long. Dal said to me , as I was steering
the boat, to force their boat towards shore so they would become sitting ducks
for us to splash them. I started to push their boat toward and we were not
looking where we were going, and the other boat ran into a solid rock pier ,
about 6 foot tall, and stalled their boat. A little old lady came running down
waving her hands and screaming at the top of her lungs, complaining we had
damaged her pier, no concern if anyone was hurt, yelling she was going to call
the "River Police" The two chaps in the other boat apologized the best they
could ,finally got their boat started and backed away from the pier.
We continued downstream and came to two islands in the river and there was a
Punt load of School Girls, all in Uniform sitting in this punt. The two crew
members in the other boat went close to them and shouted "Hello" but there was
no response from the girls.
Continuing down stream the t wo in the other boat decided they would go for a
swim, so they stripped down to their underwear, and took turns at diving into
the water. Dal says to me get close to their boat so he could grab the Tow rope
and once both guys where in the water at one time tow the boat away,leaving
them stranded in the middle of the river yelling and shouting to get their boat
back. Apparently we where in the area of a PublicPark because the people on the
shore started yelling and shouting , that we spoiling the tranquility of their
river and more cries went up to call the "River Police" We let the two get into
their boat and started the return trip.
We then challenged the two guys to a race and we purposedly held back to let
them go ahead as we could see what would happen when got back to where the
girls where. Sure enough they peeled off and went to pass the girls between the
two islands and they ran aground right beside the punt load of girls, The guys
got out of their boat in their underwear and pushed their boat free, this
finally got the Girls laughing and clapping their hands
We proceeded along further and there was a Barge tied up to the river bank and
and the two others decided they where going to dry out their uniforms. , and
one of them hung his trousers over the windscreen
of the boat , so again Dal says to go past and he would grab the trousers. He
grabbed them alright but the First Officer also saw the trousers go and he
grabbed the other leg of the trousers and the result was the pants tore in two
, and held together by the belt and buckle.
We arrived back at the boathouse, paid the chap and got out of there before he
discovered what a mess we had left behind in his boats.
We picked up the Stewardesses at Windsor and fortunately one of the girls had a
needle and some thread and managed to baste up the trousers!
We arrived back at the airport just as they had finished repairing the problem,
so we sneaked back onto the aircraft before any passengers where boarded, and
shut the door between the Cabin and Flight Deck,.as we where a pretty sorry
sight and the passengers were none the wiser.
Looking back on the incident it was one of the more times we had while on the
North Atlantic service.
If anyone knows who the rest of the crew where , would they please let me know
as my memory isnt that good.
Charles Mackie

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. Reminder -
"Name the Tail Contest" presented by the ACFamily Network
This is a fun contest to test your knowledge of 50 airline aircraft tail
You can Win one of these four great Canadian Aviation Books...
- "Ace McCool -- Collector Edition"
- ALTIMETER RISING: My 50 Years in the Cockpit
- AVIATION MEMOIRS: A Love Affair With Flight
- NATIONAL TREASURE: The History of Trans-Canada Air Lines
(Contest starts at 0100 GMT February 3, 2002 and closes 2359 GMT February
23, 2002)
Visit to see more information and contest rules.

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. Trtivia!
In NetLetter 654, Herb Noble posed this question -
Did TCA or AC ever name their aircraft as CPA did
with their famous "Empress of.." if they did, when and what was the name,
this doesn't apply to Air BC or the name "Flying Merchant" carried on the
four North Stars freighters.

Norm Garwood responded -
Further to Herb Noble's trivia question, I go back to early June '53 with
TCA (in the Public Relations Dept.) and I can not recall the airline ever
naming any of its aircraft as CPA was wont to do. I do remember that the
subject was indeed suggested and considered more than once but our Crown
Corporate nature was such that there was concern Ottawa would stick its nose
into that aspect of our business (too). We would only upset those
cities/provinces etc. that were not named.
Norm Garwood

Regarding the query about names on aircraft..a/c 212 a north star, was, i
believe called "the cornwalis"..Ed Hill

Your copilot Terry offers this information -
I think there were several 'named' aircraft -
North Star
CF-TFB 'Cornwallis' c/n 126 fin 202
CF-TFC 'Champlain' c/n 127 fin 203
CF-TFE 'Probisher' c/n 129 fin 205
and Herb suggested these -
wow, that's great, the first four M2's were named and that only lasted for a
year or so, none of the 6 M1's on lone from the airforce were named, the
names were (201) Cartier, (202) Cornwalis, (203)Chaplain, (204) Selkirk
I was interviewed by TCA for the
job two weeks after 204 went missing, and started Feb 9 57 after being
married on Feb 2 57..  by the time I got to work on them
(Feb 57) they were beat into shape and were performing much better that the
first few years, I used to bug Ken Ford the Rolls Royce Rep who had an
office in our hangar for the stories about the early going.
(204 was lost on Mount Slesse, Hope, BC Dec 9/56 and recently located - eds)

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. Found on the internet.
BRITISH MAY BAN BOOZE: Pax aboard domestic and international flights on
British airlines may soon be flying stone-cold sober. An alarming
increase in air-rage incidents has prompted the UK government to
consider a ban on all alcoholic beverages aboard commercial aircraft.
Air-rage incidents increased from 800 three years ago to 1,250 in 2001.

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Ed Tierney has sent us this information on Ryanair an Irish low discount
Ryanair jet order to create 3200 jobs.
Low-cost airline Ryanair will create 3200 jobs through a £6.5bn order for new
planes the company has said.
The airline has ordered 100 of Boeings new 737- 800s with an option to order a
further 50.
The first of the planes will be delivered this year, with the remainder
following until 2010.
Some 800 pilots, 2,000 cabin crew and 400 engineers and operations staff are
expected to be needed.
best regards Ted Tierney.

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. Terry's travel tips.
Do you know what hotels in downtown Montreal offer discounts to Air Canada
We used to have a little travel book listing hotels all around the world who
gave discounts to Air Canada/airline personnel but the only booklet we can find
is one that was issued for the 1988/1989 period (28th edition) and this of
course is hopelessly out of date.
Carol & Bryan Humphrey  plan a visit to Montreal in June to attend their
daughter's commencement ceremonies at McGill University and would appreciate
knowing what hotels give a "good" discount.
Thanks for your help.
Carol Humphrey        This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Dargal offers these deals -
*** Cruise the Panama Canal with CUNARD ***
March 11 & April 5 ~ 13 Nights ~ Caronia
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, to Acapulco, Mexico
Inside $699, Oceanview $799
March 24 & April 18 ~ 12 Nights ~ Caronia
Acapulco, Mexico to  Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Inside $599, Oceanview $749

February 23 ~ 16 Nights ~ Silver Cloud
Sail from Cape Town, South Africa to Mombasa, Kenya
Vista Suite $1995, Verandah Suite $2795
March 13 ~ 7 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail round-trip from Singapore
Vista Suite $895, Verandah Suite $1195
March 20 ~ 12 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail from Singapore to Bombay, India
Vista Suite $1495, Verandah Suite $2095
April 1 ~ 9 Nights ~ Silver Whisper
Sail round-trip from Mombasa, Kenya
Vista Suite $1295, Verandah Suite $1595
April 1 ~ 8 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail from Bombay, India to Dubai, UAE
Vista Suite $995, Verandah Suite $1395
April 9 ~ 9 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail from Dubai, UAE to Safaga, Egypt
Vista Suite $1095, Verandah Suite $1595
April 10 ~ 10 Nights ~ Silver Whisper
Sail from Mombasa, Kenya to Safaga, Egypt
Vista Suite $1495, Verandah Suite $1845

February 13 ~ 12 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail from Auckland, New Zealand to Cairns, Australia
Vista Suite $1495, Verandah Suite $2095

*** EUROPE ***
March 27 ~ 14 Nights ~ Silver Cloud
Sail from Piraeus, Greece to Monte Carlo, Monaco
Vista Suite $1845, Verandah Suite $2545
April 10 ~ 12 Nights ~ Silver Cloud
Sail from Monte Carlo, Monaco to Lisbon, Portugal
Vista Suite $1495, Verandah Suite $2095
April 22 ~ 10 Nights ~ Silver Cloud
Sail from Lisbon, Portugal to Barcelona, Spain
Vista Suite $1345, Verandah Suite $1845
February 25 ~ 16 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail from Cairns, Australia to Singapore
Vista Suite $1995, Verandah Suite $2795
March 11 ~ 16 Nights ~ Silver Cloud
Sail from Mombasa, Kenya to Piraeus, Greece
Vista Suite $1995, Verandah Suite $2795
April 9 ~ 15 Nights ~ Silver Shadow
Sail from Dubai, UAE to Piraeus, Greece
Vista Suite $1895, Verandah Suite $2595

February 10 ~ 7 Nights ~ Silver Whisper
Sail from Buenos Aires, Argentina to Rio de Janerio, Brazil
Vista Suite $995, Verandah Suite $1195
February 17 ~ 7 Nights ~ Silver Whisper
Sail from Rio de Janerio, Brazil to Buenos Aires, Argentina
Vista Suite $1995, Verandah Suite $2545
Rates are quoted in U.S. dollars per person (based on
double occupancy) and are subject to change, availability
and eligibility. PORT CHARGES ARE INCLUDED. Government taxes/fees
are additional. Offers apply to new bookings only, are capacity
controlled and may be withdrawn without notice.
For more information on these and other specials, contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223 (North America)
International: (Country Code)-800-2832-7425
Fax: (250) 861-3283

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. Smilie.
A passenger piled his cases on the scale at the airline check-in desk in
New York and said to the clerk, "I'm flying to Los Angeles. I want the sqaue
case to go to Denver and the other two round ones to go to Seattle."
The clerk replied, "I'm sorry sir, but with the new secutiry measures we can't
do that."
"Why not?", the passenger said, "you did it last time!".

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