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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 694  June 4th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.

Circulation: 2300+

Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker

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. Need to know.

The policy information regarding pass travel published in Netletter Nr 690 was


and has indeed changed already.

The effective date of the proposed changes has not yet been

fixed. Much will depend on the development of the new

automation. The official target is fall of this year. It may

well be a bit later.

The intent is to make as much travel as possible ticketless.

Again, we need to wait for the systems development before

publishing any hard policy.

American Airlines Offers ZED Fares To Air Canada Employees. Effective

immediately, all active and retired Air Canada and Air Canada Jazz employees,

their spouses and dependent children under the age of 21 can travel on American

using a ZED fare.

Vancouver Ticket Counter Notice. On June 1, the Air Canada ticket counter

located at the Vancouver "Park-N-Fly" on Miller Road, stopped issuing tickets.

>From this point on, employees/retiree are to use the main terminal for their

ticketing needs. The Air Canada ticketing counters are located between the

domestic and international departure counters on level 1 in the main Vancouver

terminal. Please allow enough time for ticket processing.

With the recent announcement that Pacific Coastal will be operating Vancouver

to Comox

we have this information -

Air Canada have a low zed (ZL) agreement with Pacific Coastal.

They will not be accepting our u-write trip pass tickets.

The ZED pricing grid for your reference.

CHART-ZED                       FARES IN USD

MILEAGE        (ZL)       (ZM)       (ZH)'

ZONE 1        1-450         13         19         25

ZONE 2      451-750         16         25         36

ZONE 3      751-1600        21         30         44

ZONE 4     1601-3200        32         43         68

ZONE 5     3201-4080        37         50         89

ZONE 6     4081-5000        41         59         105

ZONE 7     5001-6100        49         63         113

ZONE 8     6101-9000        57         70         126



From this you will notice


YVR-YQQ would be USD13 per segment, plus taxes.

Tickets arranged through the call centre at 1 800 413-1113.



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. Air Canada news.

From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -

Calgary-Phoenix route has been reduced for the summer season to two weekly

flights from June 3rd to October 3rd.

All Tango flights at Toronto airport will be moving to Terminal 3 effective

June 15th. Passengers will be checked in and board their Tango flight at a T3

gate. This was due to Tango's growth and the lack of domestic gate space at

Terminal 2.



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Competitive News:

Jetsgo Is A Go. On June 12, Jetsgo will begin service on a domestic route

network that includes Toronto, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Montreal and Halifax, with

seasonal service to Sydney, NS and Stephenville. Following the no-frills trend,

the discount carrier will not have business class service or a lounge, and

customers will have to pay for food and beverages. Jetsgo will use three Boeing

MD-83 to service its routes, with a fourth to be added in the fall. Air Canada

has always held the position that given the opportunity, competition in the air

travel industry in Canada would thrive, and that consumers benefit from a

competitive environment.



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. We recently added the following to our readership, here is a short bio -

Tony Buckley (wife Barbara) retired CP Air, February 7, 1968 to July 1st,


I am now residing in the Okanagen and am a member of C.A.I.R.E.

brief bio:

YWG, YVR and YOW airports 1968-1974

Manager Yukon and Alaska (Whitehorse) 1974-1978

District Sales Manager YVR 1979 - 1984

General Manager, Japan and Korea (based in Tokyo) 1985-1995

Regional Director Asia, (based in Hong Kong and Tokyo) 1996-1998

Director Sales, Western Canada, 1998-2000



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. News from the districts.

From the Okanagan newsletter -

supplied by Gerry Damskov Deputy Director Okanagan District Pionairs

For: Ron Goran, Director

Future Events


JUNE 11th. 2002

Cost is $12.00

1200 hrs -- Meet and Greet  1230 hrs. -Lunch  1330hrs. --Games

As per last year a sumptuous buffet which will consist of:

Hot Chicken Breast, Cooked Rice, Tossed Salad, Bean Salad,

Rolls, Assorted Desserts & Punch  ( Fruit )

Bring Lawn Chairs, and lots of dimes for games. And remember to wear a hat.

Payment in advance please to Tony Bestick (Treasurer)


SEPT.10th 2002  at 1030 hrs.  Registration

Cost is $15.00

1100 hrs. -- Interpretive  walking tour.

1230 hrs. -- Drive to Oliver lunch at Tinhorn Creek winery

for a buffet sandwich, a variety of chicken, ham, tuna and egg,

roast beef, egg salad,  lettuce,  tomatoes,  cheese, pickles,  olives, rolls

and bread.

Assorted deserts,  punch and coffee.

One complimentary serving of wine.

Bring chairs and small patio or portable table.

Payment in advance please to Tony Bestick (Treasurer)

Treasurer is Tony Bestick Tel: 250-712-0615 E-mail This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.



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High-Flying Attire On Display At B.C. Aviation Museum. The B.C. Aviation Museum

on Vancouver Island has added to its permanent collection eight Air Canada and

Trans Canada Air Lines uniforms worn by our flight attendants over the past

four decades. The display begins with the light blue summer uniform worn by TCA

staff from 1953-1963. The museum also has 19 planes on exhibit. It’s located at

1910 Norseman Rd., Sidney and is open from 10­4 p.m. Cost is $5 for adults, $4

for seniors. For information, call (250) 655-3300. Also, check their website at

www.bcam.net, you’ll find lots of great details about the aircraft and links to

related sites.



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. Star Alliance news -

Star Alliance News:

Star Alliance Welcomes Three New Members To Its Roster Of World Class Airlines.

On June 1, the Chief Executive Board of Star Alliance, approved the addition of

three new partners to the global airline group. Work will begin immediately on

the integration of Asiana Airlines of South Korea, LOT Polish Airlines and

Spanair of Spain into Star Alliance. It is anticipated that these carriers will

join the alliance within the next six to 12 months. This would bring the total

number of Star members to 17 airlines.



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Following is an update on what's happened with the Lockheed TCC so far this


On the 16th and 17th of May, Capt. Patry, Capt. Norberg, Capt Dodds, Capt. Reid

and I completed recurrent training on the Lockheed at St. Andrews Manitoba.

On the 18th and 19th Cap. Patry, Capt. Reid and I then ferried the aircraft to

Toronto via Thunder Bay, remained overnight, then on to Leamington next morning

to participate in the community sponsored airfest.

Morning of the 21st we (Capt. Patry, Capt. Reid and I) departed Leamington for

Brampton . There Capt. Patry disembarked and Capt. Reid and I continued on to

position the aircraft in Montreal.

Weekend of May 25th and 26th saw TCC at Lachute on static display for a " fly

in" of Montreal aviation enthusiasts. It was very well attended and the DREAMS

TAKE FLIGHT staff were on hand to support their program. I think the aircraft

was a highlight of the weekend.

Friday the 31st of May and Sat. June 1st, the aircraft was scheduled to fly in

support of the Starlight Foundation out of Dorval. Friday was a bummer day

filled with thunderstorms, heavy rain with associated winds and even hail in

the evening. Discretion being the bettor part of valor flying was cancelled !

Sat. saw a bright sunny morning and we flew flights which were full of keen

aviation enthusiasts. Although it was quite windy, the wind favored us by being

directly down the runway and so were able to operate until about 13:00 local.

THEN the wind got off the runway and decided to accelerate and  gust, with

gusts to 52kts.  Even the birds quit flying in that so we followed their

example and stopped as well.

All in all it was a successful operation. However

there were some disappointed but understanding folks,I might add, who had come

from as far as Ottawa to fly.

TCC is  running like the proverbial " Swiss watch" and has been polished

brighter than ever.  Retired VP Maintenance Bernie Gillies was there for a

flight but was one of the disappointed.

Starlight Foundation had eight flights scheduled over the two days and

accomplished five of them. They raised $5400.00 for the program and the Pilots

Crew Scheduling office, who coordinates the Starlight flights were pleased to

raise that amount.

Sunday and Monday, June 2nd and 3rd, the Lockheed will fly for DREAMS TAKE

FLIGHT here. Hopefully somebody will turn the wind down a few notches and the

operation will be "sked- routine".

Weekend of June 8th and 9th will see TCC in Ottawa at the Rockliffe airport

flying from the National Aviation Museum  supporting DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT. If

anyone is interested in flying there(in Ottawa) you  should contact  Roger

Guilbault at 613-565-1527.

Monday June 10th Capt. Patry and I will be flying with the M.O.T. inspectors

and then ferry the aircraft to Toronto. TCC will be in attendance at the

Canadian Aviation Trade show in Oshawa June 14th, 15th and 16th.

Alan MacLeod.

Today we received this news from Alan -

A.O.G.( Aircraft On Ground)

Everyone knows what that stands for if they have been around the "operations"

end of the airline for any length of time. Well for the first time in years,

Tango Charlie Charlie went "AOG" on Sunday.

On June 2nd, the Lockheed was planned to fly for DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT from

Dorval. The aircraft departed at 09:00 for the first of four flights. As it

turned out it was the first flight for the day and the last for the day.

In my first update on Tango Charlie Charlie, I made a statement "the aircraft

was running like a Swiss watch".  Well the aircraft perhaps didn't like being

compared to a watch, I guess, as on Sunday the watch stopped ticking.

The left engine fuel pressure began fluctuating and associated low pressure

light on. The pressure dropped to about half its normal value. We returned to

Dorval and investigated the problem. The problem was a sticking reverse flow

fuel check valve plumbed in parallel  with the engine driven pump and an

electric back up pump. Mike Clarkson, the maintenance engineer supporting the

days flying, removed, inspected, cleaned and replaced the valve. Fuel pressure

now normal. Engine run and operated normally until shutting it down. It was

impossible to shut off the engine using the normal procedure. It just continued

to run. To get it to stop it was necessary to select the fuel shut off valve to

the closed position and let it run out of fuel. In addition there was a now a

fuel leak from within the carburetor.  After Mike discussed the problem with

the Winnipeg maintenance staff, a decision was taken to replace the carburetor.

Tango Charlie Charlie was U/S for two days and is now just been returned to

service( Monday evening).

Maintenance engineer George Huntington, from Winnipeg, brought a replacement

carburetor and both mechanics installed it this evening.

Tomorrow if the DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT staff can round up their passengers they

will get to fly in the evening.

The aircraft is now running like a real Lockheed !

In my ten year association with the aircraft that is the first time I can

recall it has been unserviceable for more than a few hours.




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. Terry's travel tips.

Interlining Plus has these deals -

Canadian Rockies -

Crowfoot Tour, 6 days Calgary return includes:

5 nights accommodation, Banff tour & golfola, Jasper tour, Columbia

Ice fields

Maligne Lake tour, Yoho sightseeing tour & motor coach


Oct 5th thru 17th from ca$935 pp

Canadian Rockies Highlights

6 days Calgary to Vancouver or Vancouver to Calgary. Includes:

5 nights accommodations, Banff tour & Goldola, Mountain Lakes and

Canyons tour,

Rocky Mountaineer Train (2 days with meals) and motor coach


Oct 5th to 12th from ca$1,149 pp

May 29 to Oct 3 from ca$1,455 pp

Call 1-800-665-3100 form more information on these and other deals.

Travel tip from Interlining Plus -

Place a dryer (fabric softener) sheet in your suitcase. This will

keep your clothes

fresh while you travel.



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. Smilie.

Although we have seen these several times, it bears repeating for our newer

readers -

sent in by Ted Zubek -

Aircraft Maintenance Problems and Solutions:

Never let it be said that ground crews and engineers lack a sense of

humor. Here are some actual logged maintenance complaints and problems,

known as "squawks," submitted by QANTAS pilots and the solution recorded

by  maintenance engineers.

P [in list below means] - The problem logged by the pilot.

S [in the list below means] - The solution and action taken by the


P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.

S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.

P: Test flight OK, except autoland very rough.

S: Autoland not installed on this aircraft.

P: No. 2 propeller seeping prop fluid.

S: No. 2 propeller seepage normal. Nos. 1, 3 and 4 propellers lack

normal  seepage.

P: Something loose in cockpit.

S: Something tightened in cockpit.

P: Dead bugs on windshield.

S: Live bugs on backorder.

P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200-fpm descent.

S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.

P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear

S: Evidence removed.

P: DME volume unbelievably loud.

S: DME volume set to more believable level.

P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick

S: That's what they're there for!

P: IFF inoperative.

S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

P: Suspected crack in windscreen.

S: Suspect you're right.

P: Number 3 engine missing.

S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

P: Aircraft handles funny.

S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

P: Target radar hums.

S: Reprogrammed target radar with words.

P: Mouse in cockpit.

S: Cat installed.



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