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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 712,  Aug 14th,  2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2400+

Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker

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. Need to know.
Air Canada Adds Flights Between Montreal And Calgary To Frankfurt. Due to the
high demand on these routes, additional flights from Montreal-Frankfurt (AC882,
AC883) and Calgary-Frankfurt (AC852, AC853), have been loaded in RES for the
August-September schedule

Caroline Tune of Employee Travel & Recognition has sent this information -

This will serve to advise that effective immediately for all standby flight
listings for travel on the above carriers all listings must be done via the

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. News from the Pionair districts.
From the Vancouver Island and Gulf Island newsletter -
As many of you are aware “Jazz” no longer operates in or out of Comox and
Campbell River, being replaced by Pacific Coast Airlines. Contingent and
Employee Travel will be allowed using a “Z” fare. Cost is $13.00 U.S. each way
plus a $12.00 Cdn. Security Tax each way. In addition there is a Comox Airport
Improvement Fee of $5.35 Cdn. I’m not sure if Campbell River have an A.I.F.
Should your trip take you beyond Vancouver, a further $12.00 Cdn. each way
security charge will be assessed. These additional security charges ($24.00)
can be claimed from Air Canada by submitting photo copies of ALL travel
documents. Self ticketing Retirees, send claim to: Payrolls YWG 859, P.O. Box
768 Winnipeg. Non-self ticketing send request to “Refunds” YWG 859, Box 6475
Winnipeg. Pacific Coastal will continue to operate in/out of the South Terminal
in Vancouver and cannot provide baggage transfer. You will need to collect your
bags and take them with you on the shuttle bus to the Main Terminal and check
them in prior to boarding mainline flights. You can, of course, use Nanaimo or
Victoria as your departure/arrival station.
Further activities as follows:
August 14 - Golf - Arrowsmith Golf Course, Qualicum Beach. Contact Bill Wood at
250-245-0747 to register. The cost is $25.00 per person.
September 4 - Central Ontario Pionairs Golf Tournament at Hunter’s Glen G.C.
Kleinburg, Ontario. Cost $120.00, mail payment to Roy McCormick, R.R. 1 Box
1136 Collingwood, Ontario L9Y 3Y9. Tel (905) 637-6656; e-mail:
September 18 - Trip to Hurricane Ridge - Washington State.
Details in NetLetter nr 711
October 3 - Fall Lunch in Nanaimo at the Longwood Brew Pub, located in the
Longwood Mall off the Old Island Hwy. & Turner Road. Meet & greet at 11:30 AM;
12:30 lunch; cost P.P. $18.00. This restaurant can only take a maximum of 80
persons, book early by sending your cheque payable to A/C Pionairs, to our
Treasurer, Marjorie Thorpe in Comox. In addition tours of the Micro Brewery can
be arranged after lunch (no charge), for those interested.
December - Dates and Locations to be advised.
(1) Christmas lunch in the Victoria area (primarily for those South of Duncan)
(2) Christmas lunch in Qualicum Beach (for those North of Duncan)
It may seem a bit strange to have two Christmas lunches, but in order to
accommodate those in the various locales and the possibility of poor weather,
it was felt this would allow more Pionairs to participate. Attendance at both
lunches is encouraged for those interested.
Our goal in future is to issue a Newsletter three times per year. Mailing costs
are so high it was thought letters every four months approx. would suffice. Our
next letter is planned for mid November. We would encourage those with e-mail
addresses to advise us in order that we can make contact, other than Canada
A suggestion was made at a recent lunch that the Vancouver Island & Gulf
Islands Pionairs support the “Dreams take Flight” program, seems like an
excellent suggestion. We can probably take the revenue from any 50/50 draws and
earmark it for this program. This can be discussed at the October 3rd luncheon,
or send your opinions to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
Enjoy the balance of your summer and I hope to see as many of you as possible
at the various functions.

Report on the Niagara Peninsula Coffee Group (the new kids on the block).
Since our inception in February we have enjoyed excellent support from the
retirees in the Niagara Peninsula. We have a hardworking committee including
Secy/Treasurer Isabel Fox and Social Convenor Margaret Smith-Slingerland who
have worked hard to ensure the success of our fledgling group.
Our main social event so far is the Grand River Cruise scheduled for September
23. At $31.00 for a 3.1/2hr cruise with dinner and entertainment we feel it is
too good to pass up. Although it is selling fast we still have room for a few
more, but we must have names and payments before the cut-off date of Sept. 2nd.

At our meeting today (Aug.6th) we enjoyed a lively discussion on a wide-ranging
variety of topics from the increased cost of emergency travel insurance to the
manner in which airport security charges are being applied.
We also managed to fit in some funny stories with contributions from Bob
Hainstock, Gord Dalziel and yours truly.
The dinner for two prize at Frados Restaurant was won by first time attendee
Art and Mary Jasinski and raffle prizes were won by June Dalziel and Margaret
We extend a special invitation to visitors. Please come and join us the first
Tuesday of the month at Frados Restaurant by the Welland Canal at Homer Bridge
where you can watch the ships go through the canal while enjoying lunch. We can
provide complete directions by E-mail or by telephone.
Come and make a day of it in the beautiful Niagara area. Visit some wineries
after the meeting and take home some of our bountiful harvest of fresh fruit.
Submitted by Jim Morgan, Chairman E-mail This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Tel. 905-788-2080

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. Where are they now!
DC-3 c/n 11906 CF-TES

Skytrain built as 42-92139 and delivered to the US Army Air Force on 10th
ber, 1943, but diverted as Lend-Lease aircraft to the Royal Air Force as Dakota
Mk. I I I FL547 , going to 511 Squadron in the United Kingdom after its
Atlantic ferry flight on 23rd January, 1944. The squadron was based at RAF
Lyneham in Wiltshire. On 20th August, 1945, FL547 joined 105 Operational
Training Unit at RAF Bramcote, Warwickshire, this unit becoming 1381 Transport
Conversion Unit on 14 November, 1945. On 30th April, 1946, the aircraft was
flown to 22 Maintenance Unit located at Silloth in Cumberland. On 17 July,
1946, it was sold to Canadair Limited in Montreal and was converted for
passenger airline use with Trans Canada Air Lines, to whom it was delivered on
17th January , 1947, and registered CF-TES, Fleet No.91, later 391. It served
the airline well until 13th April, 1963, when it was sold to Transair Limited.
In June 1967 it went to Lambair Ltd. of The Pas, Manitoba, and was withdrawn
from use in 1970. Now at 
Western Canada Aviation Museum, PO Box 99, Station C, Winnipeg, Manitoba RJM
JS6, Canada No date is available for its transfer to the Western Canada
Aviation Museum.

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. Remember when!
From the February 1947 issue of Between Ourselves, which had been saved all
these years by Reg Watkins, and sent to us by Jim Pearce.
From the report sent in by Moncton -
Coming in close company with the New Year were many changes for our Department.
With three types of equipment, DC-3's, Lodestars and 14-08's, we find our work
pretty well cut out for us. This is quite a different situation to the old days
when all our aircraft were 14-08's. However our work is much more in- teresting
now and it should never make "Jack a dull boy".
On December 6, we saw our first DC-3. There was much to-do about this occasion
and we found out that compartment one is up front and compartment five is not
the blue-room. We are now waiting with baited breath to get out first view of
the North Star - when that happens our cups will overflow.

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. Found on the internet.
NEW 747 TAKES FLIGHT: Boeing July 31st saw the first flight of its
newest biggie -- the 747-ER can carry 15,000 more pounds of people or
cargo and can fly about 410 nautical miles farther than existing 747-
400s. After three hours of uneventful flying, the aircraft safely
landed at Boeing Field in Seattle. This new model of the 747 -- the
first since 1993 -- does not differ in size from its predecessors and
offers its advantages through various structural changes, an additional
fuel tank ... and a strengthened fuselage and landing gear. The 747-ER
is said to offer larger carry-on compartments and more spacious
interiors, similar to Boeing's 767 and 777 models. The new jet's
launch customer will be Qantas Airways, which has placed an order for
nine aircraft in a modified freighter version.

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. Jim Doyle sends this suggestion -
Want to spend an enjoyable couple of hours? Go to your video outlet and rent
a movie called "DARK BLUE WORLD".
It's a Czech film about Czech pilots flying Spitfires in the RAF during Worl
War 11. The aerial shots of Spits, and the sound track are outstanding, even if
the love storey is a little thin. (In Czechoslovak, with English sub-titles) -
Jim Doyle

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. Terry's travel tips.
Holiday Inn - Anchorage up to 50% discount
239 W. 4th Ave. Anchorage, Alaska UNITED STATES 99501
Phone 907-279-8671 Fax 907-258-4733

Club Embarcadero Pacifico
Av. Paseo de La Marina Sur S/N esq. Vela
Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco MEXICO
Phone (52322)221-1177 Fax (52322)221-1689 us$50 per day
Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites Old Town up to 50% discount

2345 Jefferson Street
SanDiego/Old Town, California UNITED STATES 92110
Phone 800-255-3544 or 619-260-8500 Fax 619-297-2078

Beverly Garland Holiday Inn Universal Studios us$82.00 per night
4222 Vineland Ave. Hollywood, California UNITED STATES 71602-3399
Phone 800-BEVERLY or 818-980-8000 Fax 818-766-0112

Outrigger up to 50% discount
Cairns Resort 53-57 The Esplanade
Cairns, Queensland AUSTRALIA 4870 Phone 61-7-4046-4141 Fax 61-7-4046-4242

OHANA Outrigger Hotels of Hawaii up to 50% discount

Hampton Inn Tucson Airport up to 50% discount
6971 S. Tucson Blvd. Tucson, Arizona UNITED STATES 85706
Phone 520-889-5789 Fax 520-889-4002

Embassy Suites LAX North up to 50% discount
9801 Airport Blvd. Los Angeles, California UNITED STATES 90045
Phone 310-215-1000 Fax 310-215-1952

New Hotel Delives up to 50% discount
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Phone 00-32-81-58-05-13 Fax 00-32-81-58-15-77

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. Smilie.
Short Final...
A Qantas 747 landed at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport just after the
Rugby World Cup -- in which Australia beat France. De Gaulle has
circular stands, so if an aircraft misses the turn-off it often must
taxi around again to get back to it. As the Qantas aircraft did this...
Paris ATC: Qantas 123, are you having difficulty?
Qantas 123: No, just doing a victory lap!

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