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Subject: [The NetLetter] NetLetter nr 719 Sept 4/02 - The NetLetter
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)

Number 719  Sept 4th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2500+
Circulation: 2500+

Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker

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. Nice to know.
Air Canada To Launch Non-Stop Montreal-Atlanta Service. Beginning Nov. 4th,
we will launch non-stop service between Montreal and Atlanta, Georgia. The
new three-time daily service will use a Canadair Regional Jet aircraft, and
will be operated by Air Canada Jazz.

Information only, contact 1-800-413-1113 for complete details -

Codeshare/affiliated carrier flights are  NOT  eligible       
under the terms of this agreement unless stated.

PUS to/from BJS                                               . 

Any reduced rate ticket is subject to tax as applicable         

Space Available ZED - Zonal Employee Discount               
Eligibility - ZED                                           
Eligible for unlimited ZED - ZM fares:                          
Active employee of AC/Tier 2 & 3 with 6 months service        
Retired employee                                              
Spouse - legal & o/s common-law partner                       
Dependent children under 24 years of age                      
Parents of active/retired employee
* under 16 years must be accompanied by a person              
at least 16 years of age and also on ZED                    
* 2-11 years pay 67% of the applicable ZED fare               
* infants - free of charge if not occupying a seat            
- require a separate ticket for international travel              

Reservations and ticketing -ZED
Contact 1-800-413-1113 in north America else local reservations office.

Chart-ZED                 fares in us$                      
mileage        (ZM)         
zone 1          1-450         19                     
zone 2      451-750         25                     
zone 3      751-1600        30                      
zone 4     1601-3200        43                     
zone 5     3201-4080        50                     
zone 6     4081-5000        59                    
zone 7     5001-6100        63                    
zone 8     6101-7100        70                    
zone 9     7101-9000        85                    
Fares are converted to local currency                         
Subject to taxes as applicable                                

Validity                             180 days from date of issue.

Reservation entitlement       Standby

ID50 positive space reduced rate - personal      

Active employee of Air Canada with 6 months service            
Retired employee                                              
Spouse - legal                                                
Dependent children under 21 years of age                      

50% personal                        
first, business and normal economy fares only               
children fares permitted                                    
**no other discounted fare permitted                        

- contact 1-800-413-1113 in north America else local reservations office.

- Valid 90 days from date of issue.                                 

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From: Saville & Barbara <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: Charles (Chuck) Shnider
It is with great sadness that I report the death of Charles (Chuck) Shnider
on Tuesday August the 27th at Victoria General Hospital. Chuck fought a
courageous fight against cancer and died peacefully with his wife Diana and
his daughter Charlene at his side.
Chuck was a great colleague and friend to those of us who worked with him
at WGA, Reservations and the District Sales Office during his 28 years with
TCA/ Air Canada.
Retiring in 1983, he moved to Victoria in 1986 and subtly proceeded to
surround himself with his old Winnipeg friends through friendly invitations
to come and stay at his B and B. This of course had the desired result,
getting no less than 8 of us to move out to the Island to join him, a
decision we thank him for helping us to make.
In the last few years Chuck and Diana could most often be found hunting out
interesting Inns and and out of the way places of interest in the British
Isles and Western Europe.
In my 41 years of friendship with Chuck I never heard him raise his voice
in anger at anyone or anything, a quality that I greatly admired. We will
miss him dearly.
A Celebration of Life will be held for Chuck on Sep.14th at the Jewish
Community Centre,
3636 Shelbourne Ave., from 2 to 5 PM.

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. Mutterings from the Pionair Districts.
From the Vancouver Island & Gulf Island Pionairs -
October 3 - Fall Lunch in Nanaimo at the Longwood Brew Pub, located in the
Longwood Mall off the Old Island Hwy. & Turner Road. Meet & greet at 11:30 AM;
12:30 lunch; cost P.P. $18.00. This restaurant can only take a maximum of 80
persons, book early by sending your cheque payable to A/C Pionairs, to our
Treasurer, Marjorie Thorpe, 1769 Astra, Comox, BC, V9M4B6. In addition
tours of the Micro Brewery can  be arranged after lunch (no charge), for
those interested.

Glen Steeves, Pionairs YVR District Director sends this update -
Vancouver Pionairs Annual Fall Luncheon
Fall is almost upon us and it now time to get back into a Pionairs mode.
Details of this year's luncheon are as follows:
DATE: October 6, 2002
TIME: 11:30AM
PLACE: Richmond Hotel and Convention Centre, 7751 Westminster Highway. Yes,
we will be back at this very popular venue for the first time in a number of
years. The catering staff are promising a great luncheon which we know will
meet with your approval.
COST: $22.00 per person
GUEST SPEAKER: The topic will be "Streamling Employee/Retiree Travel"
the Travel Automation Project - New Pass Policies 2003.
Speaker from Air Canada with name to be advised.
PARKING: FREE. Please use the Parkade adjacent to the hotel. There will be
NO need to leave a parking voucher on your dash. Cheques payable to Air
Canada Pionairs to be sent to Al Yallouz,
57 W42nd Ave, Vancouver, B. C. V5Y 2S8, to be received by September 26th.
Plan to come out to the luncheon and learn about the new improved Pass
Policies targeted for implementation early in the new year.

The following are planned for September:
September 10 - Reo's Restaurant, Tsawwassen and Earl's in White Rock
September 11 - Park Royal Hotel, West Vancouver
September 17 - Kelsey's Restaurant, Richmond
September 19 - Scottish Cultural Centre, Vancouver (Guest Speaker to be
September 24 - Ricky's Restaurant, Ladner
Plan to attend one or more! Hopefully we will be able to update you on the
many changes at Air Canada and within the industry during the last two or
three months. All commence at 10:00AM with the exception of White Rock which
is at 0900.
PS Our Annual BBQ on July 31st was a great success with nearly 120 attending
on a perfect summer day. Our thanks to the Functions Committee and the many
volunteers for making it such a great success. Concensus was that it should
again be planned in 2003.

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. Remember when.
Trans-Canada Air Lines inaugurated the "Pacific Mercury" DC-8 service
Yvr-YYZ on
September 16th, 1954.

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. Alan MacLeod sends this update on CF-TCC
Week of Aug 5th through 9th saw the Lockheed in the Air Canada hangar in
Calgary, the former PWA/Canadian hangar. While there an internal battery
was replaced in the GPS/VHF transceiver unit.

Weekend of Aug. 10th and 11th TCC flew two days for DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT
Calgary group. As usual in Calgary, there were no available seats for walk
ups as all seats were reserved months ago.

On Sunday the 11th after we finished flying there Capt. Ted Dodds and I
took advantage of a beautiful day through the mountains and ferried the
aircraft to Vancouver, arriving about 7PM, to have the aircraft in position
for following weekend.

Aug. 17th and 18th in Vancouver was beautiful and the DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT
committee were organized to the hilt, as usual, and had the aircraft filled
both days. This year was the first year flying was done from the Shell
Aero Center(Vancouver) and all eight departures were on time---what else
would you expect. The Lockheed has never ever departed late in its 65 years
of service with the Airline, has it ??

Monday the 19th the aircraft was planned to fly with the David Clark
Headset Corporation but that was cancelled due change of plans at David Clark.

Tentative flying to commemorate the 65th anniversary of the Company on Sept
1st was shelved for the time being.

Capt. Patry and I ferried the aircraft back to Winnipeg via Calgary, Regina
(where the grasshoppers boarded for a free ride.There are literally
millions of them around the airport there) and finally back to Winnipeg
where the aircraft is now standing by to fly again.

The DREAMS flying is completed for this year. As in the past it was a great
success . This was the first year  we flew to St. John's Newfoundland and
the DREAMS" committee reported recently that the folks in both Gander and
St.Johns are still talking about the visit.

Shell Oil Canada was a great supporter as usual donating more than 25,000
liters of fuel. Nav Canada waved all landing and navigational charges. The
maintenance guys in Winnipeg met  the aircraft and provided volunteer
maintenance and ground support at the different cities. All the DREAMS
staff at the different cities provided the ground work to make this program
a continued success. Last but certainly not least Air Canada provided the
use of the aircraft and supported the program 100%. Thanks to all the
above, and especially Air Canada directors.
Alan MacLeod

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Caterina Trotto
Air Canada Corporate Records/Archives sends this information -
The Musée de la civilisation, in Quebec City, is currently preparing a
major exhibition on the color BLUE, which is scheduled to open on March
12, 2003 and will run until September 6, 2004. In this context we are
looking for a blue captain's uniform (uniforms + accessories)
and I am writing to explore the possibility in search for a
TCA/AC/Canadian Airlines pilot uniforms (2 uniforms) that has a story to
it. For example, that is associated to a specific
pilot whom saved lives (heroic act) or has done exploration. The
deadline for this inquiry is October 01, 2002.
I hope you can help us on this specific request.
Kind regards,
Caterina Trotto
Air Canada Corporate Records/Archives
For the above notification you may either contact Ms. Caterina Trotto
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Phone: (514) 422-4459
Ms. Andrea Hauenschild, Guest Curator
Service des expositions thématiques
Musée de la civilisation
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. Found on the internet -
THE VERY FRIENDLY SKIES: Another company is now offering the chance for
couples to earn their membership into the "Mile High Club." A Canadian
airline that specializes in sightseeing tours has begun offering
couples a chance to indulge their airborne fantasies. Starting at $250
for a 30-minute "Quickie Flight," to $350 for a 60-minute flight dubbed
"The Big One," Love Air offers entry into this unique association of
travelers. Company officials claim that business is very good, with an
average booking of three flights per week. We don't know exactly what
kind of security practices are involved ... perhaps it depends on your
definition of the term "background check."

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. May Day.
From: "Jim and Carol Ursel" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Subject: re: Australia
We are planning on using our 25th service pass to Australia this coming
January. Wanted to know if any of our readers have suggestions on staying
in Sydney.  Would also be interested in B and B's, and golfing in
Australia. Thank you

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. Terry's travel tips.
Travelodge across from Woodbine racetrack in Etobicoke that gives
a great rate of $50-$55 std room a night. It is not the nicest area to stay
but is very close to the airport and casino!

Park Hotel HKG gives a very good rate of 300.00 HKG (approx 60.00 CAD) to
AC employees...theyre in the middle to Tsim Sha Tsui with easy access to
everywhere. Really clean with newly renovated rooms. Call (852) 2366-1371

The Novotel in Shanghai (PVG) offers a $usd 50.00 rate to AC staff ( last time
I was there was Dec 29th). The hotel offers complimentary shuttle service to
the market, features a spa, a club and can arrange for excursion/rental car
with driver.

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