The NetLetter #874
The NetLetter
"Since Oct/95 - Now serving over 2200 AC retirees" Feb 25th, 2005


Number 874

About us!

Need to Know - Vesta

Nice to Know...

Air Canada News

Found on the Internet

Remember when!


Old Email found!

Star Alliance News

Terry's Travel Tips



About us!

Since October 1995, Vesta Stevenson and Terry Baker have been issuing an email newsletter for those ex Air Canada types who have provided us with their email addresses. The Newsletter was created by Vesta, who gave the name 'NetLetter' and added 'Between Ourselves' - a TCA periodical with which you are probably familiar with from the 50's and 60's. It was then changed to "Between Yourselves" to avoid confusion when "Horizons" resurrected the name. Then finally simplified to just "The NetLetter".

We believe that our NetLetter, which originates from Vancouver Island, was the FIRST to use this medium to disperse information for retirees of Air Canada.

The NetLetter contains airline related information such as anecdotes or stories supplied by some of the recipients, Internet tips, travel news, cheap... excuse me, "inexpensive" accommodations, tours, interline travel, and, in some small way, we help keep our Air Canada family together and in touch.

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Dear NetLetter,

We had a glitch in communication in getting this NetLetter out in the new format. Although ready on Feb 25, 2005 and posted on the ACFamily Network, we are just getting this out now.

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  • Need to Know - Vesta
  • The inaugural issue of the new formatted NetLetter went to your inbox on February 21st, 2005, during our tenth year of operation.
    Your chief pilot - Vesta, and co-pilot Terry wish to acknowledge the sterling work done by Alan Rust of in getting this project up and running so successfully.

  • Nice to Know...
  • Earn Aeroplan Miles with Valetparc
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    Thanks to Aeroplan's partnership with Aéroports de Montréal, active and retired ACE family employees can earn 250 Bonus Aeroplan Miles every time they entrust their cars to Valetparc, at Montreal's Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport.
    To receive your Aeroplan Miles, mail or fax your validated Valetparc receipt with a copy of your travel/ID card and Aeroplan number to Gad Lachance, Aéroports de Montréal, 1100 René Levesque West, Suite 2100, Montreal, QC H3B 4X8 or fax Gad at (514) 394.7356.

    This offer ends February 1, 2006.

    Getting to Boston from Quebec City will be a lot easier this summer. Boston and Quebec City are not only two of the oldest cities in North America, they share a lot in common - an Irish heritage is just one that comes to mind. Bringing them closer together, effective June 1, Air Canada will be the only carrier offering daily non-stop service between the two historic cities. This new route will cut the existing travel time by more than two hours and provide our customers with a handy link to Quebec City's cruise ships.
    The new route will be operated by Air Canada Jazz using a 37-seat Bombardier Aerospace Dash 8.

  • Air Canada News
  • Six additional Boeing 767 widebodies and 60 Embraer aircraft will join our fleet beginning this year. The 767s are scheduled for service to international destinations, such as the Toronto-Rome route being introduced this summer, while the Embraer fleet will be deployed to increase frequency in current markets and for the start-up of new routes.

  • Found on the Internet
    While we don't know how much a used 707 goes for these days, the $31 million hangar taxpayers are funding to keep the rain off one to be based in California might be a bid worth considering. Of course, this is no ordinary 707. It's the old turbojet that carried Ronald Reagan to the far corners of the world for his Cold War-ending private chats with the likes of Margaret Thatcher and Mikhail Gorbachev (here ends our knowledge of world politics). The Boeing, dubbed the Spirit of 76, is now mounted on a pedestal, in takeoff attitude, as workers create the Air Force One Pavilion at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. "I know Ronald Reagan is looking down on us and saying, 'This is wonderful,'" said Duke Blackwood, executive director of the library.

    Skyservice to serve Russia
    According to Commercial Aviation Today, Canadian charter Skyservice Airlines has announced it's been designated to operate scheduled international air service between Canada and Russia using its own aircraft. Skyservice, which has already operated charter flights to Russia, plans to operate year-round flights between Toronto and Moscow, three times a week beginning in the spring of 2005.

  • Remember when!
  • Canadian Pacific Airlines inaugural Vancouver to Whitehorse on May 24th., 1944 Capt. George Jarvis, First Officer Larry Dakin and stewardess Eleanor Block made up the crew.

    In 1944, the fare from Prestwick Scotland to Montreal in a Lancaster was gbp572.12 one way!

    On May 10th.,1949 Trans-Canada Air Lines Canadair DC4M North Stars replaced DC3 on the Edmonton - Saskatoon - Winnipeg and on Dec 2nd, Barbados was added to the Bermuda-Trinidad service.

  • Smilie
  • Sour pickle and sweet justice.
    (TSA - terminal security agents.)
    It was not the TSA's finest hour but at least they followed their own rules -- according to the TSA. A woman was barred from a Mesa Airlines flight from Phoenix to San Diego on Thursday after she allegedly told a screener that the TSA "couldn't find a bomb [in her bag] if there was one." While the woman was detained, the bag was put on the flight, where it traveled uneventfully to San Diego -- uneventfully, that is, until arrival. At Lindbergh field, the plane was evacuated, the passengers and crew were delayed for debriefing and the (previously cleared) luggage was extricated from the aircraft and blown up (not of its own accord). It was all by the book, according to the TSA's Nico Melendez. "If a bag is cleared by TSA, is it OK, under current regulations, to fly without the passenger on the plane." "... All procedures were followed in this case," he said in an e-mail to the Arizona Republic. The passenger, a New Jersey psychiatrist, was questioned (and later released, taking a later flight) as the bag made its way to San Diego, where the plane taxied to an isolated area of the airport and passengers were ordered off without their coats and carry-ons while authorities found Koshnu's luggage and blew it up. ... How was your day?

  • Old Email found!
  • We found some "lost mail" sent to the wrong email address and was in limbo on the server dated Wed, April 2, 2003 11:04 am
    Belated comments from Bill Norberg -
    Dear friends,
    While we were aware of the serious problems facing Air Canada and many other carriers in these difficult times,we hoped there would be a way through without going the CCAA route.
    The solutions to these types of problems are never easy or pleasant but there is no choice.We sincerely hope the way through this dilemna does not hurt too many people.
    What is really obnoxious is the "Holier than thou" attitude of outfits like Westjet,the Johnny come lately's of the airline world.
    I can tell you a short story about that. In 1959 when the first DC-8 on a country wide tour stopped in Dorval to show irself off to Trans-Canada.
    Jim McLean and I were at the terminal watching it take off as it departed Montreal.
    The aircraft rotated and climbed at the now familiar steep angle we associate with jet aircraft. This one however was even more dramatic to impress the locals. Jim said to me..."Bill that proves once empty aircraft can climb like hell".

    Westjet has no unions,does not have to develop routes,flies only where others have created the business. Not to make money under those conditions would be almost impossible. The news media does not seem to grasp this situation when they make comparisons.
    The day may not be far off when Air Canada may be operating under similar conditions and we will see what happens then.
    I do not intend to sound bitter but it is hard.
    Take care and be well.
    Sincerely Bill Norberg This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

  • Star Alliance News
  • The Star Alliance member carriers flying to Nagoya, Japan, have all switched their operations to the new Central Japan International Airport (Centrair). The move includes locating all Star Alliance carriers at Centrair under one roof and the opening of a Star Alliance lounge

  • Terry's Travel Tips
  • March break is coming soon and people are starting to think about vacation destinations and great deals.

    All the interline agencies have access to the exact same rates. When a cruise line has an interline rate on a sailing, all interline travel agents have the ability to offer that rate to you. So, if you see a deal offered elsewhere your favourite travel agent can get the exact same rate for you. Here are some interline agents I have used in the past

    • Dargal Interline Call Toll Free: 1-800-690-3223 International Toll Free: (country code)-800-2832- 7425
    • KVI Interline Cruises & Tours Toll Free in N.A.: 1.866.765.3694 Collect to Canada: 250.491.4815
    • Airline Retirees Pass Bureau 1-800-266-6738
    • Caesar Hotels Airway Vacations 1-800-422- 3727
    • Travel Industry Discount Directory (Australia) PHONE: 04 2739 2277 (+61 4 2739 2277)
    • Startrips WWW.STARTRIPS.COM
    • Interline World Vacations 1-866-279-8480 toll free or local (604) 279-8482
    • Interlining Plus Local 604-606-1700 or Toll Free: 1- 800-665-3100
    • Aero-Marine Interline toll free phone: 1-800-255- 2376
    • just4airlines Tel: +60 3 5510 7063 Fax: +60 3 5510 4249
    • Touchdown travel Phone 0870 7045000, from outside of the UK 0044 870 7045000. Fax 0870 7045001, from outside of the UK 0044 870 7045001. Last minute bookings (for travel within 7 days only). Phone 0870 7045077, from outside of the UK 0044 870 7045077. Monday-Friday 0900 - 1730i

    • Here are some deals for our UK readers, but not necessarily so!

      Touchdown and Malaysia Airlines are pleased to offer a superb offer for travel to Bali, Vietnam, Cambodia and Singapore from just £269* return. This offer is open to ALL TRAVEL INDUSTRY STAFF plus companions! *price excludes taxes. Valid for departures 17-27Apr only. Must book by 28th Feb! Maldives From £149* with Sri Lankan! Price valid with immediate effect, last return date 20 Jun. Max duration 30 days. Flights confirmed 21 days prior to departure. * price does not include taxes. Many hotels to chose from... Sri Lankan have now added fantastic fares of £159* to the following destinations: Colombo, Mumbai, Delhi, Kerala, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur and Singapore. Stopovers permitted in Colombo. Check the Sri Lanka, India, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong *tax not included.

      Thai Airways International special from £175* return!! Touchdown and Thai Airways International are pleased to offer a fantastic and exclusive deal for travel to Thailand, Bali, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore and Malaysia. Valid for departures 18Apr-30Jun. *Price does not include taxes , PSC (LHR £11.90) or fuel/security surcharges.

      Malaysia April and May Special from £199* return!! Once again Touchdown and Malaysia Airlines are pleased to offer a fantastic and exclusive deal to travel to Malaysia to Penang or Langkawi from just £199* return. Valid on non-stop direct service MH7 only from Heathrow to Penang (Tues or Sat) or Langkawi (Wed or Sun) for departures 01Apr-31st May only, return service operates via Kuala Lumpur (KUL) only.
      For £209* return you can also fly from Heathrow or Manchester to Kuala Lumpur itself, Kuantan and Terengganu. Or try exotic Borneo! Kota Kinabalu, Sabah from just £248* return via KUL. *price does not include taxes. April now added!!

      Virgin Atlantic!
      New rates out now, valid from 01April! Bookable now! Caribbean from £219, Far East from £299, USA from £185, South Africa from £365. Premium economy upgrades offered on Gatwick departures.

      Orient Express - including the British Pullman and The Northern Belle from £89pp. Special rates offered for Pansea Orient Express Hotels, in Koh Samui, Bali, Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar.

      American Airlines new rates added, now valid until 31 March 2005. Now offering immediate flight confirmation!! ...

      BWIA: New routes from Glasgow-Prestwick and Belfast to Barbados commencing 12March. From £189 return. Immediate confirmation offered for March/April departures! Business class upgrades available for a supplement.

      Cathay Pacific. Valid for departures from Heathrow 03Apr-31May 2005. Must book by 18 Mar! with immediate flight confirmation. Destinations include Hong Kong, Australia,NZ, Vietnam, Phillippines, Taiwan, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Japan.

      Contact Touchdown Travel
      Phone 0870 7045000, from outside of the UK 0044 870 7045000.
      Fax 0870 7045001, from outside of the UK 0044 870 7045001.
      Last minute bookings (for travel within 7 days only). Phone 0870 7045077, from outside of the UK 0044 870 7045077. Monday-Friday 0900 - 1730i
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