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Number 396   Date August 15th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995


. Need to know.
Travel embargo to St, John's, NF, on Air Canada and Air Nova flights
in August. Effective immediately, all positive space travel other than
aircraft on ground (AOG) and crew movement will not be permitted
between St. John's and Halifax in August. All positive space business
travel and personal travel including ID80, ID50, and promotional
tickets are included in the embargo, except tickets purchased before
August 10. Active and retired employees, family members, and travel
partners travelling standby should make alternate travel plans prior
to leaving home base.

Be prepared to make alternate arrangements if you're travelling
through the UK. Strong bookings over the Atlantic might mean denied
boardings. Employees should buy tickets on other carriers before
leaving home base. Employees and travel partners are responsible
for additional costs incurred if denied boarding.

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. Welcome to
Robert Cleroux retired Cafeteria Manager lives in Fabreville, Laval, QC
email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and you will locate  Rob Giguere
works in Winnipeg as Air Canada Vice President flight operations.
Mary Kirk living in Windsor, On. Email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Ben Van Ryswyk retired Lead Mechanic lives in Dollard des Ormeaux, QC
email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Where are they now?
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. is a CHANGE of E-mail for Hebert Young  COMOX BC
Herbert Young is going to handle messages for:
Murray Phipps, Frank Stevens, Steve (S.I.) Clark who also reside
in Comox BC. Send emails in care of Herbert Young.
Len Kruller has changed his email to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Bernard Desanlis is now at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

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. Deja-vous!
With the recent announcement by the government which will allow
Canadi>n Airlines to enter into discussions with other airlines
Margaret Cantwell sends us this article from
'Horizons' dated Mar 30th 1979 -
I thought that as we are hearing on the news and in the paper
to-day about Air Canada and a possible "merger" and their desire to get
Canadian and with West Jet, I thought the following little item from
Horizons dated March 30, 1979 might be of interest.
It is as follows:
"We're ready and more than willing to meet the stepped-up competition",
said the President Claude Taylor in reacting to the recently announced
decision by Minister of Transport, Otto Lang, to remove all restrictions
on CP Air's participation in transcontinental air routes. "We've reached
the stage where an orderly transition is in order and we are mature and
efficient enough to stand on our own without protection."  The President's
message on page three followed up at length on this.
I find it very interesting as it is just what they are saying to-day about
lifting restrictions.  I also found it interesting as my son Robert is with
Canadian Airlines and is dealing with this sort of thing !
Cheers for now...Margaret

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. News from the districts.
From the London England monthly newsletter -
Upcoming events:
Aug 19      - TV Show at Teddington Studios.
To see the recording of a new comedy show called
'Starting Out'. Cost: Free.
Sept 7      - Visit to Ypres, the city and cemeteries.
Leaves Heathrow Park Hotel at 6:30 in a 44 seater coach
Travel will be through the 'Chunnel'.
Full passport required. Cost: GBP20.00 pp.
Sept 20     - In conjunction with ACRA visit to see the show
'Whistle down the wind' Cost:25.00 pp includes coach.
Sept 29/30  - Visit to Vancouver, BC
This is now finalised with hotel booked at the
Vancouver Airport Travelodge. Supper will be in the
restaurant adjacent on the 30th. Any AC/TCA retirees in
the Vancouver area are most welcome to join the visitors.
Oct  TBA    - In conjuction with ACRA visit to see the show
'Disney on ice'. Details to follow.
Dec  5      - Christmas lunch.
Venue is the Heathrow Park Hotel at 13:00 cost is
GBP12.50 pp. Specially priced overnight accommodation at
GBP22.50 twin or GBP25.50 double.

Recently, the UK group visited the Heathrow Airport Visitor Centre,
the RAF Uxbridge and Syon House and Ellen Baker, wife of John Baker
Director UK Pionairs, gives us her  impressions (some editting) -
On the 7th July we started off with a quick tour of the airport.
Did you know that the Taxi Park holds 500 cabs and every time a cab
leaves the Park they are charged GBP2.00 and told which terminal to
report to, so don't ask for any short trips!
A quick look around the displays telling how the 1946 Heathrow has
grown into an international airport with 92 airlines, 200 destinations
handling 60 million passengers a year.
RAF Uxbridge was the next stop, I was rather apprehensive at going
70 feet below ground. We had a run through of how the Battle of Britain
was fought, with the original plotting table and controllers viewing
room still intact. We saw a 30 minute video film of the Battle, plus
the bombing of London. There was also a museum which we visited.
Next to Syon House, built in 1539 and remodeled in 1760 by Robert Adam
and is now owned by the Duke of Northumberland. I was asked if this was
my first visit to the house and I told the ladies behind the admission
desk that, as a 17 year old student nurse at the nearby West Middlesex
Hospital, I actually lived in the house. To my amazement, the ladies
had        read about us in the family history book. After checking that the
had left the house, the Assistant Head Housekeeper gave John and I a
tour       of the private rooms, where I had stayed. During my time there we
always cold, the only heating was a small gas fire in an old nursery
which was our sitting room. There were bars on the windows, still there,
very little hot water but a bath which was so large that 3 could climb
in       together. Huge curtains in the corridors would sway with the drafts and
frighten us when we took the long walk to the toilet. The bedrooms and
corridors now have central heating, and the curtains long gone.
I found the nursery and the big bath and then found the toilet, which
was one of the few remaining 'thunder-box' type left in use. Behind the
box was a hatch door in the wall and I said 'if I remove the door you
would find a ladder fixed to the wall leading to the roof'. 'Now I know
you used to live here' said the Housekeeper, 'no one else would know
that'. The ladies were thrilled to have met someone who had lived there.
I just wish I could still wriggle up that ladder!

From the Summer edition of the newsletter by Ottawa Pionairs -
As the district for Ottawa extends from Belleville to Cornwall, it is
recognised the difficulty for many living at the western end of this
territory to attend luncheons in Ottawa, so the next luncheon has been
scheduled for Kingston -
Thursday August 19th is the date, Aunt Lucy's on Princess Street,
Kingston is the place, the tine is 11:30 and cost $15.00 pp.
Contact Bruce Wannamaker at (613) 521-1838 for more details.

Saturday Oct 16th is the next event at The Mill, 555 Ottawa Parkway
Cost:16.00 pp time 11:30 DEADLINE Oct 6th. Call Bruce for details.

Saturday December 4th is the Christmas Luncheon at the Mill, time 11:30
Cost TBA, DEADLINE Nov 25th. Call Bruce for details.

Every Friday morning we hold coffee klatches 10:00 - 11:00 at the
Family Restaurant, Collingwood Shopping Centre, Ottawa.

Alexandria Ontario Pionairs meet the second Wednesday of each month,
Call Cam Evans (613)224-6469 or Graham Richardson (613)874-2850

Any Air Canada/TCA retirees and/or spouses are welcome to any Pionair
Come and meet previous work people and chat about old times.

Graham Richardson has taken the position of Assistant Director in
the Ottawa Pionair district.

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. Found on the internet.
Don't have the time or money to earn a pilot's license?
The Aero-Club de France has just the answer for you.  The Aero-Club is
issuing the first "licenses" for virtual pilots on the Web.
"Student" pilots earn a "private" license after completing a series of exams
and missions via the Internet.  Participants are eligible to win prizes such
as a flight on the Concorde and real flight lessons upon the completion of
either phase of training.  The first phase is up and running on the Aero-Club
site: http://www.aeroclub.com

We've heard many stories of unruly airline passengers trying to damage
planes, and now it seems even man's best friend is getting in on the act.
An Irish wolfhound managed to free itself from a cage in the cargo area
during a recent UAL flight and chewed up wiring in the cargo area, affecting
cockpit warning systems and flap operation on the 767.
United said the pilot was able to land the plane safely, and when luggage
handlers opened the cargo door, they found Rover happily wagging his tail.

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. Terry's travel tips.

Rumour has it that the Toronto-Victoria-Toronto flights will be
discontinued  effective September.

Canadian Interline Travel offer these cruises -
Royal Princess - December 5/99
14 nights Cape Horn/Strait of Magellan
Sailing from Santiago to Buenos Aires
Inside $779.00USD, pp dbl
plus $120.00USD Port charges and Government Taxes per person
Royal Princess - November 18/99
17 nights Andes/South America
Sailing from Ft. Lauderdale to Santiago
Inside from $839.00USD, pp dbl plus $160USD Port charges pp
Holland America ms Maasdam - August 29/99
7 nights Big Band Transatlantic
Sailing from London to Boston
Inside from $350.00USD, pp dbl. Outside from $450.00USD, pp dbl
Toll Free..........: (800) 665-3100

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. Smilie.
Your co-pilot sends this thought -
Everyone seems to be preoccupied with the Y2K problem, but there may be a
wake-up call when September 9th 1999 rolls around! Numerically this
would be stored as 9999 - sometimes used, on earlier programs, to seek the
end of a file being read.

A recent America West flight from Phoenix, Ariz., to Austin, Texas, was
delayed after the captain had to be replaced because he was too large for
the seat belt.
A spokeswoman for America West Airlines confirmed the story and said,
as far as she knew, it was the first time the airline had experienced such
a delay.  "From what they're telling me, on this particular aircraft,
the seat belt happens to be a little bit smaller," she said.

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
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