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Number 405   Date Sept 10th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995


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. Need to know.
With the introduction of the airline's 52nd route since Open Skies,
Air Canada flight AC681 will leave Halifax at 1420 and will arrive in
Washington Dulles at 1540.  From Washington, flight AC682 will depart
at 0945 and will arrive in Halifax at 1255.
The airline will operate 50-seat Canadair Regional jet aircraft.

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. Tom Grant sends this information -
In case you would like to email your MPs  re: the ONErous/AMR
takeover, here is where they find the addresses:
Regards, Tom

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. Here are some of those memories from Lois North -
I had been a passenger agent in Sidney for several years before
transferring into Flight Operations, and I knew a lot of the passengers
and the ground staff in the various stations, so flying in the Maritimes
was a bit like 'old home week' for me.  There was a lot of fun and
camaraderie amongst all the employees.  Some of the practical jokes
played by people, who shall remain nameless, are legendary.  A better
storyteller than I might perhaps be able to recount some of the more
famous stunts. 
I suppose one of my most vivid memories is of a flight in a Viscount
from Montreal bound for Halifax and return.  When we took off from Dorval
the weather was CAVU (Clear Air Visibility Unlimited).  However, enroute,
the Maritimes started to go down including our alternates.  Boston
remained open so we proceeded to head there as this was the ultimate
destination of many of our passengers who were to connect in Halifax to
the Boston flight.  About half-way there, Captain David Mills who was the
skipper, advised us that Boston too had gone down and we were going back
to Dorval.  Most of the passengers took it in good spirit as they
understood the uncertainties of Maritime weather. (It may also have been
because we did not serve liquor on board at that time!)  As for me, an
aspiring pilot myself in those days, I didn't really care if we went
anywhere, just as long as we flew  around.  A few years ago,  David Mills
and I met at a RAPCAN Convention and recalled that flight and had a good
chuckle about it.
My association with the TCA/Air Canada family has been a happy one.  The
operative word here is "family", having  been an employee myself, and
married to a pilot, my sister, Genie Cossitt Wright  was a flight
attendant in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s, based in Calgary, Winnipeg and
Vancouver, and  I am now  the parent of an employee,  son Reigh who is a
station attendant on the ramp in Vancouver.
Regards Lois North.  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. From 'Between Ourselves' dated  April 1062 kindly loaned by
Margaret Cantwell.
Article entitled ' The first group travel' - tickets issued by
London's Regent Street, CTO at the new, reduced fares, were for 36
Salvation Army bandsmen travelling the length and breadth of North
America for a month. Working in shifts, five Agents took a total of
16 hours to write up 180 tickets shown (in the photo) with Agents
Audrey Blencowe, Jill Whiston, Brian Crombleholme and Ralph Walker.
(No mention made of the fifth Agent - maybe they were off due to
exhaustion! - eds)

Also in the same issue -
The End Of An Era ...
The last maintenance check for flight AC353 on March 15th 1962 of
Super Constellation fin 405. Mechanics Gerry McDougall, Al Scammel and
BillSimka of the Radio Shop are shown in a picture, and in another were
Station Attendants George Finley, Tom Pacione, Leo Calzavara,
Harry Bryburgh and Al Stolcers all from Toronto.
(Fin 405 CF-TGE ended up as a restaurant in rural Quebec, then at the
Constellation Hotel in Toronto, and now resides at the Millardair
area at Pearson Airport - eds)

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. News from the districts.
Sheila Moscoe sends an update on the T2CK -
The last monthly meeting of the T2 Coffee Klatch was to celebrate
the first Anniversary on Sept 7th - just one year ago Sheila started
these monthly meetings to help keep those retirees from the Terminal 2
at Toronto in touch with each other.
Anyhow, just to let you know, we did have a great turnout and I brought
a fabulous chocolate cake (Tim Horton's) and we had a wonderful time.
Imagine one year already that we've been getting together.
Also, in one year, we've had a total of 259 retirees in attendance!
Those of you who attend these meetings - spread the word!
Sheila can be contacted by emailto:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Help!
Gayle Graham asks us this -
Is there anywhere in Toronto one can purchase 1 day passes to Universal
Studios Orlando, Canadian at par? I have contacted Universals toll free
nr and all they could offer me was the US amount for tickets.
We are planning to go in Nov and we will have visitors from England
wanting to visit Universal.
Of course the best price we can get .... the better.
Thank you for any information you may be able to give.
Gayle Graham (C.S.S.A .   Toronto Airport)  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Earl & Doris Cummings send us another answer - <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Re: Phil Pawsey's Cone of Silence query:
The "cone of silence" was associated with Radio Range Stations
(the old four-legged, aural navigational aid used for airways and
approaches) ... it was a cone-shaped zone, (pointy end at station level),
in which there was no aural signal ... over   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Information from Brian Dunn in his YYZ email newsletter -
Air Canada sent an A340 to Istanbul Turkey with emergency relief
supplies for the earthquake victims.  The Canadian Red Cross chartered
the aircraft which left YYZ Sunday at 1800hrs(Sep 5th) via CDG to
Istanbul.  The aircraft was then planned to be ferried back to
Paris-CDG, then loaded with revenue cargo for Montreal on the 6th.
Another first happened on Sunday the 5th when Air Canada sent an
A340 to Moncton NB and operate back to Montreal as an extra-section
flight....primarily for the various dignitaries attending the
Francophone Conference this weekend.  It is believed to be the first
A340-300 to fly into Moncton NB.
(Just hope someone did some lobbying whilst on an
Air Canada flight! - eds)

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. Captain Alan MacLeod sends us another update on CF-TCC -
Tango Charlie Charlie is now home in Winnipeg, where it started its
career in 1937.
Over Labor day weekend it flew out of the museum at the Edmonton City
Center airport.  Ninety eight people experience a tour of the area which
took in the city core, naturally, out to Cooking Lake  (where many bush
pilots started their careers) then around the Twin Island Air Park, back
to the city area and over the west Edmonton Mall. Weather was ideal.
Passengers ages varied from 2 yrs to 82 yrs! People were so ecstatic at
the finish of their tour they didn't want to leave the aircraft.
Comments in support of the  Dreams Take Flight, program, and Air Canada
staff were ongoing. People praised Air Canada for making it happen.
Perhaps the most special passenger we carried was a "Stewardess" (as
they were known then), who retired in 1941 !!  Gladys was her first
name. Her last escapes me now.
She brought along a log book listing every flight she did and the names
of pilots. Also aircraft fin numbers. Appropriate comments were written
about such places like Armstrong, Kapuskasing, etc. Gladys came and had
a look at the flight deck and said"
not much has changed, just the faces".  She asked about Capt. L. Rood,
Capt. Seagrim, Capt. Hollick Kenyon, Capt. Geguere. These were some of
the names in her logbook.
Gladys went home a happy lady with memories refreshed, and another entry
in her logbook.
Monday evening we flew to Winnipeg arriving about 21:30 local. We were
able to do it nonstop having following winds of about 40kts. Time
enroute was 4 hrs 15 min. We managed it without Phil Pawsey's navigating
Capt. Gerry Norberg, Capt. Harvey Reid and yours truly were flying over
the four days. C.A.T. Dan Stefanson, from Winnipeg was with us.
The next DREAMS flying will be in Winnipeg on the 16th, 17th, 18th and
19th of this month. Operating out of the museum hangar, from the
original TCA departure gate/check-in counter, where TCC operated in
Make an effort to come out and see your aircraft before it goes back
in the museum for the winter.
Should anybody remember Gladys, please let us have her last name.
Alan MacLeod. This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Terry's travel tips.

Effective September 11, 1999, Air Canada will extend its network in
Mexico by codesharing on Mexicana flights between Mexico City and
Guadalajara, Cancun, Ixtapa as well as Puerto Vallarta.  Air Canada
will also put its code on Mexicana flights between Los Angeles and
Guadalajara, offering customers convenient connections from and to Calgary.
Mexicana will begin codesharing on Air Canada flights between Winnipeg and
Chicago, Calgary and Los Angeles as well as between Toronto and Halifax.
The airline will also increase its codeshare service on Montréal-Chicago
and Toronto-Chicago by offering a second daily flight on each route.

Duane Frerichs in his RAPCAN email newsletter tells us -
All Nippon Airways joins the Star Alliance network!
Air Canada along with the other Star Alliance airlines are delighted
to announce that Japan's All Nippon Airways will become part of the
Star Alliance network on October 31, 1999.

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Ryanair Ltd. won't fly on New Year's Eve. According to Aviation Daily,
citing lack of demand and not computer problems, Ryanair of Ireland
will follow Virgin Atlantic and LOT Polish Airlines and won't be
flying at the bewitching hour. Ryanair does not normally operate
flights after 10:00 pm.

Air Ontario are commencing their new YYZ to Rochester NY service on
September 19th with four flights per weekdays.  One trip each way will
go through Syracuse (SYR).  The airline is also starting a new direct
service from Windsor to Ottawa with a stop at London enroute, and a
weekends only new non-stop service between London and Montreal.

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. Smilie spotted by Lawson Tremellen -
As the jetliner was taxing down the tarmac, it abruptly stopped and
returned to the gate. After waiting over an hour, it finally took off.
A concerned passenger asked the flight attendant what had happened.
"The pilot was bothered by a noise he heard in the engine," said the
flight attendant. "It took an hour to find another pilot."

and one from  Sheila Moscoe -
Have  you seen this cute little note which was handed to a flight
attendant on Qantas?
"Dear Captain
My name is Nicola I'm 8 years old, this is my first flight but I'm not
scared.  I like to watch the clouds go by.  My mum says the crew is
nice.  I think your plane is good. thanks for a nice flight don't screw
up the landing  Luv Nicola xxxx"  (The note had a hand drawing of an
airplane, stick person,and the sun).

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