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Number 436   Date Dec 24th, 1999  BYN 1st Published in October 1995

Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Co-pilot     - Terry Baker         This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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webmaster is Tom Grant.

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Vesta and I have enjoyed this closing year and we can brag about our
growing mailing list in the past year of 363 new retirees and others.
Thanks to all our readers for their Christmas greetings and best wishes.

o/o o\o              Christmas Greetings from
/* o *\              Vesta and Terry.
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. We welcome -
Joseph Palmorino retired Flight Operations Instructor living in
Montreal, QC email:     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Arthur Dougherty email:          This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. retired
Comm. Eng. Tech. and living in Victoria, BC

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. News from the districts.
Glen House from the Kelowna district sends this -
We had about 100 pioneers at our Xmas get to gather in Kelowna.
Only two of us were pilots, but we do have about ten pilots in the area.
All the best to every one.
88s and 73s   Glen House         VE7KKA   <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

Fraser O'Shaughnessy sends this information -
Subject - Toronto District Pionairs.
The Toronto District luncheon was held on Dec. 12/99 at the Wyndham
Bristol Place Hotel commencing with cocktails at 11:00 AM.. 157 were in
attendance. The District Director welcomed all Pionairs, the Guest
Speaker and his wife (Saville and Barbara Hambleton) and in particular
the "new in '99 Pionairs" to the nth Xmas luncheon. Ron Pickford acted
as Master of Ceremonies and he kept things moving at a fast pace all
afternoon. His excellent jokes will appear in our next newsletter.
Donna Coutts (who has been a Committee member for at least the past six
years) said Grace and held a minute of silence for those Pionairs who
died in the past year. The District Director reviewed the 4 short term
district  objectives  for the coming year
1. To reach out to all Pionairs in our district, about 1375, and encourage
their participation in all Pionair functions.
2. To establish an effective telephone committee.
3. To help create more Koffee Klatches similar to the successful
Burloak one.
4. To enlist more Pionairs to assist and provide backup to the present
Committee members.
He then introduced the guest speaker who covered a wide range of
subjects including "the Onex deal", Pensions, Health Plans and AGM 2000.
Duane Frerichs reviewed the situation at Park 'n Fly where he was able
to get the 50% discount for all Air Canada employees and retirees
reinstated which was quite an accomplishment as the discount had been
reduced to 0%.
The Raffle on behalf of Dreams Take Flight had thirty-five prizes
donated by many merchants in the Toronto area and several individuals.
The Radisson Hotel in Aruba donated a three night four day stay at their
resort which was one of the major prizes.
A separate drawing was held for the other major prize, ten inch figures
of the "Three Magii", which were designed and created by Joyce Histed.
$687.00 was raised by the Raffle. Everybody appeared to have enjoyed the
The Burloak KK Xmas luncheon was held on Dec. 15/99 at the residence of
Raymonde Masse in Oakville. Nellie Collins led a committee that prepared
and served the luncheon. There were 44 Pionairs in attendance.
Irv Christjanson welcomed everyone, reminded that the next Burloak KK
meeting was on the third Wednesday in January year 2000.
He thanked Nellie and her committee for their efforts and gave Raymonde
a gift of two china flowers in appreciation of her hospitality.
That's all-l-l-l folks!!! Regards, Fraser This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Our Chief Pilot sends these thoughts -
You Know You're Addicted to The Internet When ...

You find yourself typing "com" after every period when using a word
You turn off your modem and get this awful empty feeling, like you
just pulled the plug on a loved one.
You start introducing yourself as "Jon at I-I-Net dot com"
Your wife drapes a blond wig over your monitor to remind you of what
she looks like.
All of your friends have an @ in their name.
You can't call your mother..... she doesn't have a modem.
Your phone bill comes to your doorstep in a box.
You laugh at people with 2400 modems.
You move into a new house and decide to Netscape before you landscape.
You refer to going to the bathroom as <downloading>
You tell the cab driver you live at:
Your spouse makes a new rule:  "The computer cannot come to bed."
You ask a plumber how much it would cost to replace the chair in front o
your computer with a commode.
You start tilting your head sideways to smile.  :)
You turn on your computer and turn off your spouse.
You begin to wonder how on earth your service provider is allowed to
call 200 hours per month "unlimited."

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. Found on the internet.
We know there's a good reason why Pearson International Airport (CYYZ),
in Toronto, Ontario, renumbered just one of a set of parallel runways,
but we can't figure out what it is.
It seems 06L/24R is now 05/23, while its perfectly parallel partner
remains 06R/24L.  According to what we remember from high-school
geometry, you can't be a little bit parallel -- could this be the New
Flight attendants, say the new Customers First still puts them last.
In 1998, the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) asked the FAA to set
an industry-wide limit on carry-on baggage to fight increasing numbers of
injuries caused by heavy, oversized baggage.  What travelers drag onto
planes has reached laughably dangerous proportions.
AFA's list includes a stuffed moose head, a mini-refrigerator, a set of
free weights and a big-screen TV.  Some airlines have taken steps to
allow fewer carry-on bags.  Continental, however, known in the business
as "Carry-It-All-On" Airline, is installing even larger carry-on bins.

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. Jess Rougeau sends us this information -
Subject: Scandinavian Tour June 17th, 2000
Tour of Norway Denmark & Sweden - 12 days - June l7th, 2000
at Copenhagen - returning to Copenhagen.
It is a bus tour with a 3 hr. Ferry crossing at Fredrikshavn, Denmark
to Sweden and a cruise at the Sognefjord.
If you would like to join us please call
Katherine Gillis of Canadian Interline at 1-800-665-3100 Ext. 1306
and she will forward you the brochure package.
If you like you may email me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and forward your
mailing address and I'll contact Katherine for you.
The deadline is Feb. 15/00 after which it will be open to other agents.
We are hoping to fill the Tour Bus with Air Canada Retirees and friends.
If we have 32 persons the price will be reduced by $90.00 which will
make it about $1480.00 Cdn. per person.
Jess Rougeau <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>

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. Terry's travel tips.
Hawthorne Suites Anaheim, 1752 S. Clementine St., Anaheim,
California United States, 92802
About the Accommodations
One and two-bedroom suites.
Entertainment: VCP, HBO, Pay-Per-View movies(fee), Nintendo(fee).
Recreation: Outdoor Pool, Exercise room.
Special Features: Guest Laundry, Pets Allowed,
Handicap Accessible, Free Daily Newspaper, Free Parking.
Location Information
Directions From Airport:
LAX Airport: 105 East, 605 North, 5 South,
exit Freedman. Right on Freedman, left on Clementine.
Reservations in advance Phone 714-535-7773, Fax 714-776-9073
50% discount offered to active airline employees.
Check for retiree rates.
Based on availability.  Must show valid id at check-in.

All rates following are per person us$ for 4 days/3 nights.
ACAPULCO...Camino Real Diamante...$249
...Costa Club (All-Inclusive)...$259
...Hyatt Regency...$175
ANTIGUA...Hawksbill Beach Resort...$355
...Sunsail Beach Club...$325
ARUBA...Amsterdam Manor Beach Resort...$219
BAHAMAS...Club Viva Fortuna (All-Inclusive)...$229
...Sunrise Beach Club & Villas...$325
BARBADOS...Club Rockley (All-Inclusive)...$499
...Sam Lord's Castle Resort (All-Inclusive)...$375
CANCUN...Calinda Beach & Spa (All-Inclusive)...$309
...Grand Oasis (All-Inclusive)...$319
...Royal Solaris Caribe (All-Inclusive)...$295
COZUMEL...Fiesta Americana (All-Inclusive)...$139
...Fiesta Inn...$129
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC...Catalonia Bavaro Resort (All-Inclusive)...$249
...Hotel Reina Cumayasa (All-Inclusive)...$245
EAGLE, COLORADO...AmericInn Lodge & Suites...$119
IXTAPA...Presidente Inter-Continental (All-Inclusive)...$379
LOS CABOS...Presidente Inter-Continental (All-Inclusive)...$379
MIAMI...Richmond Hotel...$245
MT. TREMBLANT, CANADA...Tremblant Le Kandahar...$225
NEW YORK, NEW YORK...Dumont Plaza Hotel...$339
ORLANDO...Crowne Plaza Resort...$219
...Holiday Inn SunSpree...$129
PLAYA DEL CARMEN...Club Viva Maya (All-Inclusive)...$269
...El Dorado Resort & Spa (All-Inclusive)...$305
SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA...Renaissance Scottsdale Resort...$229
Call 1-800-209-0424 or (512)391-2000 or fax  (512)-391-2099
In the UK:  0171-365-0891  In Canada:  1-888-737-9669

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. Smilie.
From ...Brian O'Hare Retired AC YYZ...living in Arizona
Dare to question the Captain?
A SCA commuter flight was waiting for take-off clearance on 6L at
Anchorage, AK.  The field was in thick ice fog.
A Korean Airline DC-10 cargo jet mistook an intersection on 24R as
the end of 24L and attempted to take off with 1400' of runway in
front of him.  The horrified Captain of the SCA Piper saw the huge
shape loom out of the fog and rip his wings away with its center and
wing landing gear. The Korean jet crashed at the end of the runway
and burned, fortunately, the crew got out unharmed.
In the meantime, the Captain of the SCA flight, fuel leaking everywhere
from the smashed wings, was frantically urging the passengers away from
his wrecked aircraft.  One of the passengers was an old Bull Cook that
worked on a Cook Inlet oil platform, he was crippled up some and moved
very slow.  The Captain  said "Move, Move, get away fast!"
The Bull Cook turned to the Captain and said
"What for, is the S.O.B. coming back?"
-As relayed by another passenger on the SCA flight.-

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
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